I thought that was a strange line since he had already been given the chainmail shirt...wasn't that his first piece of armor?
Mandalorian Season 3
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I was thinking, since when Din asked for it to be made, Grogu was training to be Jedi with Luke, that it was considered a gift. Something that Din thought would be useful to a Jedi instead of any traditional Mandalorian armor. Couple that with everyone else seeming to wear the plain flack vests under the armor, & I think it was just more of a one off.
That would make this his first piece of actual armor.
On another note, I'm curious if at any time we'll see a random Mandalorian remove their helmet to reveal a different species than human? It would be interesting if things were done to do away with any prejudice towards non-human foundlings.
I hope so since adoption is commonplace among the Mandalorians. I just hope we see some normal Mandos and not the helmet fetishists we've been watching so far. Well technically the crew Bo Katan was with in the previous season were normal.
BTW, I thought the actual Mando fans who go around speaking Mandalorian (from the Republic Commando novels) were nuts, but they are normal compared to the "we don't remove our helmets" crap in the show!
NakedMoleRat
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I am SO OVER THE WHOLE HELMET FOREVER ON junk that I'm starting to lose interest in the show. Especially now that it's a cult fest on a single planet with the Stepford Mandos!
I’m not saying he was an ugly dude but “Mandalore The Great” must have had “reasons” for declaring that no one in his Mando Club would take off their helmets unless they were alone…
NakedMoleRat
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He wasn't ugly at all. He suffered from severe, untreatable halitosis.
I'm not concerned with the rule, but discussing it over and over again is getting old, it was difficult to show his face to nurse droid at the end of season 1, it was the finale of season 2 and now its driving season 3. In OT Boba never removed his helmet but it also wasn't a plot device.
uh oh, he might have to dip his toes in the living waters.
CadetTK2386
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I think a lot of Folks here are still conflating what The Children of the Watch believe with ALL Mandalorians.
In Attack of the Clones with Jango, and then throughout all of Clone Wars and Rebels, Mandos took their helmets off all the time. Even Pre Vizsla (voiced by Favreau), head of the Death Watch, took his helmet off all the time and only put it on for battle or business. The only Mandos who didn't were the generic background canon fodder and that was most likely done to save on budget, like how the non main character Imperial Officers in Rebels had their hats pulled down to obscure and save on animating the top half of their faces. And I can guarantee that Sabine is not going to be keeping her helmet on all the time in the upcoming Ashoka show.
When we, the audience, are introduced to this idea of the Helmet rule in Season 1, I think it was deliberately done to shock us long time Star Wars fans who had followed Filoni's previous work, to shake us out of our complacency on Star Wars and make the point that we might not know what is going to happen next. Then in Season 2 we get re-introduced to Bo and her crew who take their helmets off immediately. When Din expresses his shock and slight anger or disgust, we can pretty much see Bo and Crew sigh, roll their eyes and go, "Oh, he's one of those folks." So then it is clearly established that no, not ALL Mandalorians believe they must keep their helmets on at all times, but there are SOME that do, and those that do are not the Main Stream or Majority.
To everyone saying it's not normal, or its weird, or its over the top, yeah, that's the point. This behavior isn't "normal," and the vast majority of Mandalorians in the universe agree with those sentiments.
But it is a clear, easily identifiable representation of a system of beliefs. It is a clear and straight forward way to demonstrate the characters internal struggle. Din's struggle to decide what is important to him, what really matters, and what he wants to do and be, the drama of that was only served to be elevated by having a concrete action for him to take. Is Grogu more important than this easily demonstrated physical action. It can be hard to show a character's inner turmoil in a visual media, but having this simple action of taking off his helmet or exposing his face telegraphs to the audience, this is the moment, this is the choice.
It's a visual short cut to show a dogmatic belief and clearly delineate the members of the CotW from other Mandos, and to show the complexity and struggle to define what it means to be a Mandalorian, and how that definition can vary.
I think it will be interesting to see where we go with this for the rest of the season. Has Bo kept her helmet on for the past Episode and a half simply because she is trying to play nice and potentialy recruit the CotW to her cause of retaking Mandalore and reestablishing their home, or does having seen the Mythosaur and having her beliefs shaken while at a low point in her life caused her to question who is right, her way or the CotW's way.
In Attack of the Clones with Jango, and then throughout all of Clone Wars and Rebels, Mandos took their helmets off all the time. Even Pre Vizsla (voiced by Favreau), head of the Death Watch, took his helmet off all the time and only put it on for battle or business. The only Mandos who didn't were the generic background canon fodder and that was most likely done to save on budget, like how the non main character Imperial Officers in Rebels had their hats pulled down to obscure and save on animating the top half of their faces. And I can guarantee that Sabine is not going to be keeping her helmet on all the time in the upcoming Ashoka show.
When we, the audience, are introduced to this idea of the Helmet rule in Season 1, I think it was deliberately done to shock us long time Star Wars fans who had followed Filoni's previous work, to shake us out of our complacency on Star Wars and make the point that we might not know what is going to happen next. Then in Season 2 we get re-introduced to Bo and her crew who take their helmets off immediately. When Din expresses his shock and slight anger or disgust, we can pretty much see Bo and Crew sigh, roll their eyes and go, "Oh, he's one of those folks." So then it is clearly established that no, not ALL Mandalorians believe they must keep their helmets on at all times, but there are SOME that do, and those that do are not the Main Stream or Majority.
To everyone saying it's not normal, or its weird, or its over the top, yeah, that's the point. This behavior isn't "normal," and the vast majority of Mandalorians in the universe agree with those sentiments.
But it is a clear, easily identifiable representation of a system of beliefs. It is a clear and straight forward way to demonstrate the characters internal struggle. Din's struggle to decide what is important to him, what really matters, and what he wants to do and be, the drama of that was only served to be elevated by having a concrete action for him to take. Is Grogu more important than this easily demonstrated physical action. It can be hard to show a character's inner turmoil in a visual media, but having this simple action of taking off his helmet or exposing his face telegraphs to the audience, this is the moment, this is the choice.
It's a visual short cut to show a dogmatic belief and clearly delineate the members of the CotW from other Mandos, and to show the complexity and struggle to define what it means to be a Mandalorian, and how that definition can vary.
I think it will be interesting to see where we go with this for the rest of the season. Has Bo kept her helmet on for the past Episode and a half simply because she is trying to play nice and potentialy recruit the CotW to her cause of retaking Mandalore and reestablishing their home, or does having seen the Mythosaur and having her beliefs shaken while at a low point in her life caused her to question who is right, her way or the CotW's way.
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A completely logical, well thought out post that discusses the elements of the story we have, without crapping on the project as a whole, simply because there's elements you personally don't like.
You have no place here.
LOL
What's with this guy's bareback helmet?
The forger of that particular helmet was obviously Ben Cooper of Mandalore…
I can’t wait to see these chicken-dragon things wearing beskar armor and keeping their helmets on…
I wonder how many of the podlings / younglings / foundlings they will snack on before they are trained not to recognize them as a food source?
This is the way…
I wonder how many of the podlings / younglings / foundlings they will snack on before they are trained not to recognize them as a food source?
This is the way…
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joberg
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joberg
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He's still growing into it
NakedMoleRat
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Anakin had a medical condition.Didn't Darth Vader kept his helmet at all time?
jusdrewit
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I know plenty of die hard Fett fans that didn't like the fact Boba had his helmet off more times than it was on in TBoBF.
I know for sure Halo fans were screaming that Master Chief in the Halo show had his helmet off tons as well.
As for me, I don't mind it in Mando. They are clearly a zealot off shoot branch on Mandos so its no big deal. I still think Boba should have kept his helmet on more as it just adds to the mystique of the character to me, but hey, I was Boba fan when all we had were brief appearances in the OT and the EU and had no idea what he looked like which was such a big mystery until the PT.
I know for sure Halo fans were screaming that Master Chief in the Halo show had his helmet off tons as well.
As for me, I don't mind it in Mando. They are clearly a zealot off shoot branch on Mandos so its no big deal. I still think Boba should have kept his helmet on more as it just adds to the mystique of the character to me, but hey, I was Boba fan when all we had were brief appearances in the OT and the EU and had no idea what he looked like which was such a big mystery until the PT.
Yeah, I think having been treated like a well-done hamburger gives one a pass on the whole “helmet never comes off” thing…
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