ScourgiousJinx
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At first I wasn't quite sure I was enjoying this episode with the Doctor and such but then they started talking about travel biscuits and I was in 
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Mandalorian Season 3
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Oof. I regret staying up until 3am for this one. The opening was thrilling, thought we were about to have an incredible episode on our hands...and then...yikes.
I've never actively disliked an episode of Mando like this before. About 10 minutes into the Dr. Pershing stuff and I noticed how awful the editing was—long awkward pauses and scenes that go on for wayyy too long. There were at least 2 times where I thought for sure the scene was over, and then it kept going! I've avoided comparing this show to Andor because they're so different in tone and overall approach that I don't think that comparison is really warranted, but this one felt so blatant in trying to channel that political intrigue and Coruscant stuff from Andor that I couldn't help but to compare it. And my god, it was much worse. It felt so out of place. The dialogue and acting was stilted and the visuals looked cheap. It just wasn't working for me at all.
The thing is, all of this sounds good on paper to me, but it just wasn't executed well imo. I'm all for branching out from Din & Grogu's story to check in with other characters or explore broader areas of the galaxy, but there's an art in television storytelling to doing that. Introducing side characters or subplots in small doses, and if they're interesting enough then maybe committing longer swaths of time to them. But committing nearly an entire hour-long episode to two characters who've appeared twice(?) previously and who have had 0 development and aren't very interesting to begin with, only to have us learn a little bit about the state of the New Republic and for one of them to die(?) in the end feels like a waste of time. I know they're planting seeds for things to come down the road, but I don't think we needed an entire 45 minute episode to tell this story.
At least the ending with Din & Bo was good. Although, I don't feel good about them both being redeemed and joining the covert. Hoping Bo uncovers something damning about the Armorer and can convince Din to escape with her. The Mandalorians touching Din & Bo's shoulders in congratulations really creeped me out...massive cult vibes. They need to get out of there.
I've never actively disliked an episode of Mando like this before. About 10 minutes into the Dr. Pershing stuff and I noticed how awful the editing was—long awkward pauses and scenes that go on for wayyy too long. There were at least 2 times where I thought for sure the scene was over, and then it kept going! I've avoided comparing this show to Andor because they're so different in tone and overall approach that I don't think that comparison is really warranted, but this one felt so blatant in trying to channel that political intrigue and Coruscant stuff from Andor that I couldn't help but to compare it. And my god, it was much worse. It felt so out of place. The dialogue and acting was stilted and the visuals looked cheap. It just wasn't working for me at all.
The thing is, all of this sounds good on paper to me, but it just wasn't executed well imo. I'm all for branching out from Din & Grogu's story to check in with other characters or explore broader areas of the galaxy, but there's an art in television storytelling to doing that. Introducing side characters or subplots in small doses, and if they're interesting enough then maybe committing longer swaths of time to them. But committing nearly an entire hour-long episode to two characters who've appeared twice(?) previously and who have had 0 development and aren't very interesting to begin with, only to have us learn a little bit about the state of the New Republic and for one of them to die(?) in the end feels like a waste of time. I know they're planting seeds for things to come down the road, but I don't think we needed an entire 45 minute episode to tell this story.
At least the ending with Din & Bo was good. Although, I don't feel good about them both being redeemed and joining the covert. Hoping Bo uncovers something damning about the Armorer and can convince Din to escape with her. The Mandalorians touching Din & Bo's shoulders in congratulations really creeped me out...massive cult vibes. They need to get out of there.
NakedMoleRat
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And unlike Andor, I don’t care a bit about these secondary characters. E2 has more personality than any of these characters that I never cared about before, or ever wondered ‘Where are they now?’
ScourgiousJinx
Master Member
I'm all for different but different doesn't always mean good. I don't have a lot of expectations in SW content but the one I have in any content is that it's enjoyable. I really didn't hate this episode just thought it was a bit boring, out of place, the characters featured were hollow and the acting was honestly atrocious.
NakedMoleRat
Legendary Member
Well, now we know why he took his reinstatement bath in the second episode. I really hope we’re not gonna be treated to three additional episodes about this crap that I don’t care about. I really don’t care that the doctor got his brain wiped with it on Maximo, which is also stupid, why would the technician leave while the process is ongoing? But then again, I’m using reasoning.
NakedMoleRat
Legendary Member
Season one was awesome. Star Wars is back baby!
Season two was Filoni’s follies. Back door pilots for future shows.
Season three is, why? Where are you going? Why? Please make a U turn and go back.
Season two was Filoni’s follies. Back door pilots for future shows.
Season three is, why? Where are you going? Why? Please make a U turn and go back.
You're NOT the only one.
It's just that not many who enjoy things find it worth approaching the self-congratulatory, circle jerk that threads become. Most appreciative or positive discussions occur in conversations between members, so if you'd ever like to ACTUALLY discuss things, like where the story could go, or things like that, send me a message.
I guess I should clarify one thing about my thoughts... This show, & many others I enjoy, ARE NOT PERFECT!
Not by any stretch of the imagination, but when I read a book, I don't judge the whole thing by a bad or weak chapter, then crap on it until I read one that I DO see the merit in. I don't think the author has lost the plot because he described a room or a car as a different color that what I'd expected, then point to that as why he's a hack & I obviously could do SO much better.
It's just tiresome, but I keep coming back to find some that I can DISCUSS possible missteps with, not just point them out as examples of MY superiority.
Not by any stretch of the imagination, but when I read a book, I don't judge the whole thing by a bad or weak chapter, then crap on it until I read one that I DO see the merit in. I don't think the author has lost the plot because he described a room or a car as a different color that what I'd expected, then point to that as why he's a hack & I obviously could do SO much better.
It's just tiresome, but I keep coming back to find some that I can DISCUSS possible missteps with, not just point them out as examples of MY superiority.
NakedMoleRat
Legendary Member
Last week many of us were proclaiming that the Mandalorian was back! This week we were disappointed and sharing our thoughts about it. It doesn’t make us circle jerk haters, because one episode of the series, that we otherwise like was complete Felgercarb!
Man this guy ^^^ called it from a mile away…
... but without knowing where this sits in the overall story, or the implications on same, it just comes across as fickle more than anything else.
In almost every series or story I've enjoyed, the least action usually lead to the most character development, whereas at the time, they seemed to be 'filler'.
In almost every series or story I've enjoyed, the least action usually lead to the most character development, whereas at the time, they seemed to be 'filler'.
VanPersie
Well-Known Member
In the Clone Wars series.
General Rieekan shakes Han Solo’s hand on Hoth when he says “You’re a good fighter Solo, I hate to lose you”.
We also see Lando and Han shake hands on Endor after the second Death Star is destroyed and they are reunited. Han also starts to shake Luke’s hand on Endor during the celebration before Luke goes in for a hug. In the same Ewok celebration Nien Numb is seen shaking multiple peoples hands and Lando and Chewbacca also briefly shake hands.
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NakedMoleRat
Legendary Member
Yeah, but were they FIRM handshakes?
I did think the opening dogfight was thrilling, and highlights how good of a team Din & Bo can be. Din jumping out of the Gauntlet for emergency N1 support was wizard. Also I somehow missed it when watching the episode, but the moment Din & Bo say "this is the way" and then Grogu tries his best to say it and Din turns around like "...wtf!?" is funny. Surely Grogu will be saying those words by the end of the season?
I'm really interested in where Bo's story goes from here, and I hope we spend most of next week exploring that. I really don't know which way it will go, but I personally hope she doesn't end up actually being converted to the "Way" and staying with them. But it seems like maybe she's questioning her own cynicism towards the Watch and her belief in the creed might be returning now that she's seen the mythosaur with her own eyes. And I can't figure out if she still wants the darksaber/claim to the throne or not. I could see her challenging Din for it now that she's been to Mandalore and knows there's actually something worth rebuilding, or going another route and using the mythosaur as the ace up her sleeve. She's holding all this info close to her chest for some reason. So many ways this could potentially play out...
Either way, I'm loving the dynamic between Din, Bo, & Grogu they've shown these past 2 episodes, and I hope they remain allies.
I'm really interested in where Bo's story goes from here, and I hope we spend most of next week exploring that. I really don't know which way it will go, but I personally hope she doesn't end up actually being converted to the "Way" and staying with them. But it seems like maybe she's questioning her own cynicism towards the Watch and her belief in the creed might be returning now that she's seen the mythosaur with her own eyes. And I can't figure out if she still wants the darksaber/claim to the throne or not. I could see her challenging Din for it now that she's been to Mandalore and knows there's actually something worth rebuilding, or going another route and using the mythosaur as the ace up her sleeve. She's holding all this info close to her chest for some reason. So many ways this could potentially play out...
Either way, I'm loving the dynamic between Din, Bo, & Grogu they've shown these past 2 episodes, and I hope they remain allies.
squirk
Master Member
I think you sell some of us short. The show doesn't have to be whatever specific thing we want it to be.
There is indeed a lot to like in this season, but it's by no means flawless. Even cutting it some slack by acknowledging that they need to paint with a broad brush to make the plot understandable and enjoyable by kids, there's no excuse for lazy jumps in logic, hurried (not "fast," but "hurried") pacing, and annoying characters that are unappealing to any demographic. The requirement to be "kid-friendly" doesn't give you a free pass to be "sloppy."
As I said earlier, Favreau seems to like to just bound from "money shot" to "money shot" (yes, I said it) without giving a lot of thought about what can or should happen in-between. He needs to let his show breathe, and give it time to fill in those "in-between" spaces to make it feel like a well-rounded story.
That said, while I thought the Pershing/Kane storyline went on a little too long, I actually did enjoy the story of a remorseful Imperial struggling to integrate into New Republic society. Not quite like the U.S. recruiting Nazi scientists to build new rockets, since Pershing was dumped into menial data entry, well below his skills and talents. But I dug the idea that him trying to suppress his intellectual curiosity, coupled with his (perhaps not 100%) belief that he was working for the greater good, meant that the Amnesty Program was never going to work out, and made him so susceptible to Kane's manipulations.
I noted that he fidgeted with his ear when mentioning his mother's heart attack in the Senate chamber, but he also fidgeted with it when he was lying to the droid about having no feelings of resentment toward the New Republic. Does the fidget mean he's just uncomfortable? Or does it mean he's lying? And if the latter, does that mean he was not being entirely truthful about his mom and her heart failure?
Was it anywhere near as good a character piece as anything in "Andor"? No, but in a refreshing change of pace, they aimed high vs. trying to appeal to the lowest common denominator.
If "Andor" didn't exist, and this episode didn't suffer by comparison, I would probably think it was actually pretty great.
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Paul Andrew
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