Luke ROTJ V2 lightsaber

This is all really good analysis, thank you everyone

I found that if I hold my motorized hilt near the emitter (like what alec did) it helped steady any kick that develops. I dont quite understand torque but i had some because i just stuffed gaff tape around the tang and it wasnt true. I did put my converted CX-4 on it and it was more of a burden on the motor, maybe the added aluminum inner sleeves? Slightly heavier antenna?

Anyway, on the V2, seeing that the D/S is pretty tight in the nipple, today, with 2 set screws, im following that if the emitter didnt spin then the nipple or the D/S had to. It seems they secured more than just the taped neck to get it static
 
Halliwax said:
I truly believe only 3 motorized stunts were made (finished) and operational

Lukes graflex stunt

Kenobi motor stunt
Kenobi failed stunt (v3)

Vader stunt

If they were multiple stunts, vader wouldn’t have had to use the repurposed lukes in the duel. Just grab the back up vader stunt..

We also only see these 3 on screen, and never seen any other footage, photos, or props left over in the archives

I said this many times, and still believe only these 3/4 were made...or should I say “made” available to production
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With all the evidence we've seen, or is available to us currently, I think this was the likeliest case.
 
Sorry haliwax I have to disagee (so what's new).

1/ I think the black nose graffy is the backup graffy with black tape. There's a picture of it (promo shot) with the clamp on in opposite orientation to the the silver nose. Construction of these from my experiments presents no reason for the camp to be removed for any other disassembly/maintenance once manufactured. Once the T track is place it can only be removed in a forward direction. Given the amount of scratching that happened to the main tube I got when I made mine I'm surprised it's not visible in the promo pic (I put mine on from the base before gluing the the T track for this very reason.) In order to put the clamp on the other way round the clamp bars need to swapped over to keep the lever on the correct side. This means removal of these which I hold is less likely if just being slid off post manufacture. (I'm sure I went through this elsewhere, but my life's been so screwed up lately I can't tell you where.)

2/ absence from archives is explainable from Jon's quote. They were binned, some were removed from bin as souvenirs. The ones we do have may also be bin rescues. Plus what we get from the archive is possibly censored.

3/ We have no idea wtf was wrong with the Vader stunt/s. There are just 2 clues a/ Dave P holds the Vader stunt in a very weird way on screen b/ Jon says they had trouble hiding the wiring in Vader's costume & there are possible sightings of a stray jack plug protruding from Vader's glove. (I suggest they may not have been able to rewire for side wiring in time or from how it was constructed.) There are no complete or even half decent photographic views of the whole of the Vader stunt from ANH. Drawing any concrete conclusions from all that is impossible.

4/ The black wiring from the BHS photo of Alec G holding his motorised stunt does not match on screen views in the duel & neither match the BHS/outtake of the hero/stunt switch in the turn on scene.

5/Most of the time in the on screen duel footage the sabers are mostly covered by the actors hands/motion blur / too far away for any positive ID to be made.

I agree that mostly one saber appears to be used as a primary prop in all saber scenes but point 5 means there's plenty scope for others to have been used too. All my above points in conjunction with what Jon has said as well as standard industry practice back eachother up & point towards Jon being correct.
 
Mouse Vader said:
Sorry haliwax I have to disagee (so what's new).

1/ I think the black nose graffy is the backup graffy with black tape. There's a picture of it (promo shot) with the clamp on in opposite orientation to the the silver nose. Construction of these from my experiments presents no reason for the camp to be removed for any other disassembly/maintenance once manufactured. Once the T track is place it can only be removed in a forward direction. Given the amount of scratching that happened to the main tube I got when I made mine I'm surprised it's not visible in the promo pic (I put mine on from the base before gluing the the T track for this very reason.) In order to put the clamp on the other way round the clamp bars need to swapped over to keep the lever on the correct side. This means removal of these which I hold is less likely if just being slid off post manufacture. (I'm sure I went through this elsewhere, but my life's been so screwed up lately I can't tell you where.)

2/ absence from archives is explainable from Jon's quote. They were binned, some were removed from bin as souvenirs. The ones we do have may also be bin rescues. Plus what we get from the archive is possibly censored.

3/ We have no idea wtf was wrong with the Vader stunt/s. There are just 2 clues a/ Dave P holds the Vader stunt in a very weird way on screen b/ Jon says they had trouble hiding the wiring in Vader's costume & there are possible sightings of a stray jack plug protruding from Vader's glove. (I suggest they may not have been able to rewire for side wiring in time or from how it was constructed.) There are no complete or even half decent photographic views of the whole of the Vader stunt from ANH. Drawing any concrete conclusions from all that is impossible.

4/ The black wiring from the BHS photo of Alec G holding his motorised stunt does not match on screen views in the duel & neither match the BHS/outtake of the hero/stunt switch in the turn on scene.

5/Most of the time in the on screen duel footage the sabers are mostly covered by the actors hands/motion blur / too far away for any positive ID to be made.

I agree that mostly one saber appears to be used as a primary prop in all saber scenes but point 5 means there's plenty scope for others to have been used too. All my above points in conjunction with what Jon has said as well as standard industry practice back eachother up & point towards Jon being correct.
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I don’t know what’s more upsetting us disagreeing all the time, you you forgetting my extra L :p
 
Sorry Halliwax. Neither done to upset you, genuinely. (nor anyone else for that matter).

Spell check doesn't pick up on the 'L' thing & so if I miss it it gets missed, if that makes sense. Doesn't help that all those uprights (H lli) tend to merge together for me too. I've made a mental note to watch out for it.
 
Mouse Vader said:
Sorry Halliwax. Neither done to upset you, genuinely. (nor anyone else for that matter).

Spell check doesn't pick up on the 'L' thing & so if I miss it it gets missed, if that makes sense. Doesn't help that all those uprights (H lli) tend to merge together for me too. I've made a mental note to watch out for it.
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We’re good ;)
 
scarf man said:
The knurled conical knob was from a Transcriptor hydraulic tonearm, not the mystery chunk.
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It looks more like one of the three retaining nuts for the top board of a Hydraulic Reference Turntable, made by Michell and Transcriptors, than a part of the Transcriptors Fluid Tonearm.
 
You are right, but I was just casting a light for Chazzychaz, correcting the term “balance arm”, and the cone vs. chunk.
 
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James Kenobi 1138 said:
Were the ANH Deathstar duel blades not wooden dowels?
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Ohhhh youre starting trouble

IMG_7197.GIF
 
very hard to say, but this tape pattern or style matches the warehouse practice scenes. that would be a strange piece of wood, shaped like that
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Halliwax Mouse Vader

Isn't the current count so far the two Graffy Stunts and the two Obi Stunts? V2 and V3, Luke/Vader/Barbican and the "core" pipe stunt; two spare cast hilts made it off production (out of who knows how many), and out of supposed 8 stunts made, wouldn't that mean there are just a couple that are missing?
 
As a slight aside, I only recently found out that Mitchell made C3PO' s eyes

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