Ahhhh - and once again the "over the rainbow" trick is pulled out at the last minute when Damon and JJ are against the wall.
Lost season 6 with spoilers beware
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I think many people get the no linear plot line, they just feel as if there was no rhyme or reason at times.
No one is arguing about the destination of the show, or how it ended, there are just too many unanswered questions about the previous seasons that just don't sit right.
It is as if, nothing mattered but the finally. Sure, forward, side and backward plot lines.... that is cool, but if they were alive during that time, then it makes no sense. If they were dead then... yes, I can accept the jumps in time and space. But according to everyone, they were not dead yet. So time travel, the DHarma intitiative, the hatch, Polar bears, dinosaurs, etc..... all that was real?? And no explaination of that makes for a confusing wrap up.
OKAY... TO ME.... THIS IS THE BEST COMMENT ON THE BOARDS TODAY!!
THE PRODUCERS BACKS WERE AGAINST A WALL WITH THIS WILD RIDE AND THEY PULLED THIS CARD.
I DO NOT BLAME THEM AT ALL. I DON"T THINK THEY HAD ANY OTHER CHOICE OR DIRECTION.
They executed it well.... but to call it genius?? anyone with a stack of unrelated scripts and a blender could have created a juxtaposition story line like this and cap it off with a "meaningfull" ending.
oblagon
Sr Member
I'm not as sycor suggested; too stupid to understand the show. It's just that (and I agree with moviefreak) the writers are saying the characters are dead so nothing else matters. The writers started a story with no direction, wrote themselves into a corner and expected the audicence to look the other way while nothing was explained. The finale itself didn't answer anything, it just created more questions and debate. Which is fine, but give the viewers something tangible in the story to hold on to.
Ok...
Let me first say that I have been a huge LOST fan since day one...Out of all my friends that started with the show 6 years ago, my wife and I are the only ones that still watched it every week...I love the show.
I also think that I went into this finale with pretty decent expectations...I didn't expect it to all be wrapped up perfectly...In fact, I LOVED the finale until the last 8 minutes or so...
The whole "You're dead" thing is just an easy way out in my opinion...It immediately makes people doubt the entire 6 year run of the series...
For those that say..."But it was only the flash sideways in this season that were purgatory/construct/or whatever it is"...I have just one question that I would love someone to explain to me.
If everything in seasons 1-5 actually happened...The Island was real, the crash was real, they all came back, etc.etc.etc...Why was Aaron shown as a newborn baby in the church, when we've already seen him much older in the previous seasons?
I thought the finale held some of the most moving emotional moments of the entire series...But the whole "they're dead" thing was a sloppy and easy ending by a group of writers that I expect much more from.
Is it so bad to expect a finale that doesn't try to pull some sort of "gotcha" trick?
Very mixed emotions,
Jason
Let me first say that I have been a huge LOST fan since day one...Out of all my friends that started with the show 6 years ago, my wife and I are the only ones that still watched it every week...I love the show.
I also think that I went into this finale with pretty decent expectations...I didn't expect it to all be wrapped up perfectly...In fact, I LOVED the finale until the last 8 minutes or so...
The whole "You're dead" thing is just an easy way out in my opinion...It immediately makes people doubt the entire 6 year run of the series...
For those that say..."But it was only the flash sideways in this season that were purgatory/construct/or whatever it is"...I have just one question that I would love someone to explain to me.
If everything in seasons 1-5 actually happened...The Island was real, the crash was real, they all came back, etc.etc.etc...Why was Aaron shown as a newborn baby in the church, when we've already seen him much older in the previous seasons?
I thought the finale held some of the most moving emotional moments of the entire series...But the whole "they're dead" thing was a sloppy and easy ending by a group of writers that I expect much more from.
Is it so bad to expect a finale that doesn't try to pull some sort of "gotcha" trick?
Very mixed emotions,
Jason
qcfoundry
Sr Member
you sound like my grumpy old co-worker, but he admits that he didn't watch the whole series. my question to you is: did you watch the entire series (all the shows)? all of those items were explained. the time travel was not scientifically explained. however, lost is a work of fiction and the time travel was a tool of the story (nobody every explains how lightsabers work, but you go with it as a means to an end). i presume your "dinosaurs" is the shaking of the trees (wayyyy early) which further leads me to believe you didn't get very far watching the show in a complete manner.
this show was not a soap opera...it required the watcher to invest & think.
ihs
Well-Known Member
I think your line above was the whole point of the final episode - anything and everything that had happened before ceased to matter once they were in the church, ready to head on to whatever was next. Could they have answered more of the questions about the island? Sure, but they indicated that none of that mattered any longer.
Exactly!! So iff they weren't dead on the island, as you clearly state... then explain all the illogical things. Explain the polar bear, dinosaurs, the Dharma group, the light on the island, the time travel, the short cuts to Egypt, the submarine, etc...etc...etc... I can go on and on.
So if that was reality and they were alive living it... then what was going on?? They don't explain that. They just put a pretty bow on the whole package and expect us to just look away. And the true fans are.
Like I said before... if they were dead on the island, I could buy the jumps in the plot and al the strange events. But with them alive, there are too many holes in the story.
The producers were cornered with the direction they went, and they chose the obvious solution... they died and moved on. We all called this from season one.
oblagon
Sr Member
Great review of the final episode, that pretty much sums it up IMO
http://chud.com/articles/articles/2...ST039S-BIG-GNOSTIC-WET-FART-ENDING/Page1.html
http://chud.com/articles/articles/2...ST039S-BIG-GNOSTIC-WET-FART-ENDING/Page1.html
maboot38
Well-Known Member
I wouldn't say "great review". I'd say he didn't get it.
YEP!! That said it better than anyone on here could have written it.
I especially like the last line:
"Lost created a Gordian knot of ethical, moral, and philosophical questions and then cut through it with gooey sentimentality and maudlin faux-spirituality. There could have been no more disappointing ending."
GIve people credit. We are not dumb... we got it... we just didn't buy it.
Westies14
Master Member
All Sycor was saying people "didn't get" was that they were alive on the island and for the past six seasons. The dead time is just this season's flash sideways story.
As for Aaron being a baby, I still believe he should either be part of the "construct" or not there at all. Everyone, despite their age at death (it's strongly indicated that Kate and Claire lived on past the events of the series) was in the church at their island age though, when these characters were together.
maboot38
Well-Known Member
There's nothing to BUY, and that is what I think those who are disappointed are missing. We tend to forget that much of the scrutiny and speculation and the searching for minute clues and details was created by the fans. I guess I just never had expectations that I would get all the answers that some folks are looking for. There is, as in any work of fantastical fiction, a need to suspend belief. Lost is no different.
Star Wars works because you can suspend belief to allow for light speed, explosions in space, giant asteroid worms, etc. When you try to explain it all away scientifically, you get medichlorians and whatnot. No thanks. I'll take then all going into the light over a physics lesson.
oblagon
Sr Member
Alot of good lines in that review. One of my favorites was "The ending of Lost comes to a place without consequence or meaning; the Island storyline has literally no meaning because we never know what anybody was fighting for."
Sums up 6 years rather well.
qcfoundry
Sr Member
Goosebot 5000
Well-Known Member
most of what you just listed comes from DHARMA. They were just a science group that found out that the island had strange properties and went to investigate. i never saw any dinosaurs, but the polar bear, the sub, time travel and the teleporting to egypt were all their doing. except the teleporting, they just figured out how to semi-control it. Why DHARMA was there was explained in the extra video segments they released between series.
and im not sure why everyone is complaining about the faith angle. they have been setting that up since season 1. there was no writing in to a corner. i understand if people didnt like the happy ending. but you cant watch the whole series and THEN complain about the faith set up. thats like eating the whole steak and then telling the waiter you found a hair in it. and their meeting place was a collective conscious deal more than it was purgatory or the afterlife. the losties created that place for themselves. it wasnt created by any deity. so you still have a semi-scientific ending, its just balanced out by a semi-religious side.
