Let's Talk All Things Star Wars (Again)
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ScourgiousJinx
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Well at least they got one edit right.
TimDRX
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Ahahah isn't that the guy that gets his life force sucked out in Colin Trevorrow's script? Jenny Nicholson reading through that was genuinely a better movie than what we got. "He died the way he lived; wasting my time."
Wow!!!!
"Luke, you're going to find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view."
A great man once said: “It’s not the years…it’s the mileage.”
That would certainly seem to apply in this case.
I read your post. I watched the video. I read the posts that followed. I read the temp pause on frame of opinion but can say I agreed with your original premise and only later noticed that the wording used could actually be seen to point to the opposite (as though it was the bad reviews that caused the fail instead of the bad production deserving bad reviews). I saw it as you agreed with the reviewer's opinion about the current state of the relationship between the fanbase and the current decision makers at Disney. Minus the fbomb (many), I see these things in his rant:
1) He very much likes the Skeleton Crew. He loves that they do not cameo prop the core OT characters. He praises how it is a movie in the same universe but a whole new story not needing to be side A or B from the 9 movies. He praises that it, so far, has not gone agenda/politically driven. He notes its low viewership and states it is not deserving of this low viewership but is instead suffering from being associated with Disney. He states clearly that people didn't watch it and are missing out but really can't be blamed because why would they expect something good after repeatedly being run over by the crap bus.
2) He loves Star Wars Andor. Praises the show, the acting, the storyline, the directing. He, again, says that its low viewership CANNOT be caused by itself but rather its association with Disney and the permeating belief that Disney will not change and will continue to crush souls. Something that is NOT the viewers fault, nor, in this instance, the NON-viewers fault but simply the result of so much historically SAME crap bus running over paying customers.
3) He hates so much of what has come before and gives his valid reasons for it. He is angry that these newer and far superior productions are suffering monetarily because of this current relationship between Disney's elite and the Disney/MCU/Star Wars//// fans, because it will cause them to not be continued.
4) He believes that we are in a catch 22, where the current successes CANNOT be assigned to the current execs/elites because it will mean they stay in power and will then corrupt even these new productions.....just like they did to others that we will not name. He wants it to stop, full stop, not because Skeleton Crew is bad, nor Andor, but because he believes Kathleen is poison (and her ilk/spawn) and only a pause in all things Star Wars will pull the leeches free to be thrown into the fire.
5) He is saying what we have been saying. He has a very clear "whole world" societal/emotional/perception grasp on how it stands, for real, for us. He takes a long, angry path to get there and this would cause any Kathleen fancrewer to get lost in the jargon. He takes the long road to saying he is scared that it won't last, can't last, until she/they are gone.
For a guy who really liked both Andor and Skeleton Crew, I'm sure a lot of people would think he was complaining about both. He is not. He practically called for Oscars/whatever awards for Andor but with fbomby bomb bomb, in his own private and seemingly foreign language.
HE IS NOT WRONG
I've watched several of Jenny's videos over the years. For relatively young adult (33), she has some solid, well thought out insights into classic and new SW. Here she is being manssplained at a con (while dressed as slave Leia). So, she's able to endure the ridiculousness of it all and laugh at herself:
...but anyone can read a screenplay on a podcast and make it sound ridiculous/funny/irritating/non-sensical. It's the implementation of the final script/filming/cinematography/acting/visual FX and special FX/musical score/etc. that bring it to life. Trevorrow's version here doesn't sound horrible; if anything, it opens up opportunities and outcomes that we were left without.
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She was so politely listening and just seriously waiting to disengage.
Joek3rr
Master Member
Want to share a little update about my life going on.
On Tuesday afternoon I lost my grandmother. And yesterday afternoon I lost my father.
My grandmother's health had been failing for some time and been unable to eat. We thought she had rallied a little bit of suddenly able to keep food down. And then a couple days ago should begin vomiting blood became two weeks she couldn't get out of bed.
My father last year in January of 2024 was diagnosed with prostate cancer I had metastasized in his bones. Additionally it was diagnosed with Epstein-Barr virus and believed to have a Lymes like disease caused by a tick bite. About a couple weeks ago discovered that his bones were no longer making blood after it stay in the hospital for several days and blood transfusions he wasn't any better. Came home for a few days but eventually you couldn't move at all we had to take him to hospice where he stayed for a few more days before passing.
Keeping things on theme with this thread. As I watch my father steadily decline I was constantly reminded of Yoda's words "Luminous beings are we not this crude matter."
As a person dies they begin to get restless, as if their spirit remembers there was a time when they were healthy. Spirit wants to do things with the body can no longer. After point seems that the spirit remembers it wasn't always shackled to this "crude matter."
It's funny how we become so attached to the "crude matter" of this world. I told the friend last year 'I totally get Anakin now.' The devil came to me and offered me a way to save my father in exchange for servitude. Yeah I would have been tempted to take him up on that. Slightly terrifying thought.
My father and grandmother both played roles in my love of Star Wars. As I recall it was my father's idea to take me to see the film when I was a child. Few years later he would read to me at bedtime the book Star Wars The Incredible Cross-sections. You would provide me with my first lightsabers. The first of which was just a dowel rod with the little gray paint on one end and blue on the other side. And later he bought me one of those basic flick out Hasbro lightsabers.
My grandmother gifted me my copies of the films on VHS. The 2000 Special Edition versions. They will forever be some of my most cherished items though Return Of The Jedi almost unwatchable now.
In all of this pain and loss. To comfort to know that theirs is over. To know that they are at peace. They're at one with the "force." They're at one with our Lord and Savior.
On Tuesday afternoon I lost my grandmother. And yesterday afternoon I lost my father.
My grandmother's health had been failing for some time and been unable to eat. We thought she had rallied a little bit of suddenly able to keep food down. And then a couple days ago should begin vomiting blood became two weeks she couldn't get out of bed.
My father last year in January of 2024 was diagnosed with prostate cancer I had metastasized in his bones. Additionally it was diagnosed with Epstein-Barr virus and believed to have a Lymes like disease caused by a tick bite. About a couple weeks ago discovered that his bones were no longer making blood after it stay in the hospital for several days and blood transfusions he wasn't any better. Came home for a few days but eventually you couldn't move at all we had to take him to hospice where he stayed for a few more days before passing.
Keeping things on theme with this thread. As I watch my father steadily decline I was constantly reminded of Yoda's words "Luminous beings are we not this crude matter."
As a person dies they begin to get restless, as if their spirit remembers there was a time when they were healthy. Spirit wants to do things with the body can no longer. After point seems that the spirit remembers it wasn't always shackled to this "crude matter."
It's funny how we become so attached to the "crude matter" of this world. I told the friend last year 'I totally get Anakin now.' The devil came to me and offered me a way to save my father in exchange for servitude. Yeah I would have been tempted to take him up on that. Slightly terrifying thought.
My father and grandmother both played roles in my love of Star Wars. As I recall it was my father's idea to take me to see the film when I was a child. Few years later he would read to me at bedtime the book Star Wars The Incredible Cross-sections. You would provide me with my first lightsabers. The first of which was just a dowel rod with the little gray paint on one end and blue on the other side. And later he bought me one of those basic flick out Hasbro lightsabers.
My grandmother gifted me my copies of the films on VHS. The 2000 Special Edition versions. They will forever be some of my most cherished items though Return Of The Jedi almost unwatchable now.
In all of this pain and loss. To comfort to know that theirs is over. To know that they are at peace. They're at one with the "force." They're at one with our Lord and Savior.
Very sorry for the pain. I was going to tag with the sad face and that didn't really express but the heart emote doesn't either so just know it is understood but not expressable.
I had the same conundrum and went with sad to round out the pair of us.
Joek3rr you have my warmest condolences, and kindest commiserations toward your view of your loss, and their eternal rest with God.
Since this is the "Let's talk all things Star Wars... again" thread, I'll say that it's wonderful to see genuine heartfelt condolences for personal loss and grief. There's a community of very different - but yet somehow like-minded people here at TheRPF, for whom the original Star Wars era (from 1977 to ~ 1985) was magical in so many new ways. A community that is inspiring, creative, supportive in times of both success and failure, joy and sorrow. Very organic in its inception, and more deeply rooted, as it came before the Internet era of the Prequels and the Social Media era of the Sequel trilogy.
Star Trek TOS and other 1960s/1970s projects had their pockets of fans for sure, but it was SW that led to a wider feeling of COMMUNITY in the fantasy and sci-fi world.
I love that we have part of that community here, and we can empathize/support each other through tough times.
Star Trek TOS and other 1960s/1970s projects had their pockets of fans for sure, but it was SW that led to a wider feeling of COMMUNITY in the fantasy and sci-fi world.
I love that we have part of that community here, and we can empathize/support each other through tough times.
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Sorry to hear that. My dad has been gone for about 4 1/2 years now and the only thing I can say to help is just to remember the good things. If you start feeling bad, think of something memory that makes you laugh. It gets better, but never goes away.
I did not notice it at first but she is the third Star Wars character to wear this face. Knightley, Portman and Ridley. Genetics were very very kind here.
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