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its clean power in another building--I'm an electrician, so its not a power issue for sure. really hoping its the cards. I have been running 12 to 14 hour prints as of late
Found this and many others on reddit. 2 Takeaways from this, 1)seems a lot of folks destroying many cards in this same printer, some reporting card is so hot it burns them when removed 2)some get this error but the print finishes anyway. Def a call to support:
If the issue is heat at the reader, add some serious fannage and a great heat sink and see what happens.
If the issue is heat at the reader, add some serious fannage and a great heat sink and see what happens.
Thank you for this.. Good reading. I was looking for something like it but didnt find
found this they have some legit advice on high heat card options but definitely add some cooling too at the reader
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smithjohnj
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I just saw the posts about SD card errors. I have see similar problems from two separate causes. First is bad contacts - on the SD cards themselves and/or the SD reader in the printer. In this situation cleaning the contacts may help. Q-tips with alcohol (since you probably already have is close for cleaning your print bed). Or a mild abrasive, like a pencil eraser can clean the exterior contacts. If all cards have this problem, it is more likely the internal contacts. Again the Q-tip approach might work. Cleaning the inside can be more difficult but a thin sanding stick (like an emery board might work. The second cause is wear and tear on the reader's entry "rails". With a lot of insertions and ejections the SD may no longer align and connect properly. For me this happens quite frequently when inserting the card. It does not register the card as even there, invalid, or unformatted. I have to "wiggle" the card around to make proper contact. I have not had this issue in the middle of a print but vibration could cause this issue on my machine - it is that sensitive to misalignment.
of course my nintendo and atari years of my youth convinced me that blowing on the leads is magical
I was thinking something similar..
1. Do you start print same time of day say like before work etc
2.Are you away when it fails?
3.Are you in a city or rural
4.It could be your areas natural power surge in your area which could be affecting it?
When they grid change the supply more power like midafternoon when a particular show or kids come from school could interfere maybe..
Have you re downloaded the Ark? File just in case thats the issue, do other STL prints work ok.
Just another thought moisture ?
Does it get a lot hotter during the day, is it open or in an enclosure?
I use an additional webcam so I can Real time see or get promted if an issue.
Before the invention of Game Saves those puppies sure ran hot being left on 24/7
no dice!! brand new cards, yes, I formatted them. I think these cards are crap though or bad batch--( I formatted them and put the files on, but it gave an error saying insert SD card). I was able to use another one I had, and it did start to print --however, now it's just spilling the filament on the table. Yes, I reset it, releveled it
pisses me off because I have had zero issues, and then --boom--turns to crap--WTF
pisses me off because I have had zero issues, and then --boom--turns to crap--WTF
smithjohnj
Sr Member
Is your software producing corrupt gcode? Is the problem only with recent projects? Do you have older gcode projects which worked before and still do, or do they all seem to fail? You might try examining the gcode with a gcode viewer. My printer allows me to input my project via USB as well as SD. Mine and some can accept files via wireless network connection. If you input via different methods and all fail then I would expect the printer is having a problem executing the gcode.
TazMan2000
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For the SD card issue, can you get someone else with the printer to read the card? If so, the problem may be internal, as smithjohnj suggested.
If you have cleaned the internal contacts with some cardboard or emery paper, then you may want to try to re-flash the firmware on the printer, that is, if you can use any other means to do so, not using the SD card reader. Look to see if all of the contacts on the reader are still there and are straight. If they are bent or damaged, the printer mb may not be able to read cards.
TazMan2000
If you have cleaned the internal contacts with some cardboard or emery paper, then you may want to try to re-flash the firmware on the printer, that is, if you can use any other means to do so, not using the SD card reader. Look to see if all of the contacts on the reader are still there and are straight. If they are bent or damaged, the printer mb may not be able to read cards.
TazMan2000
It may only have been because I was specifically searching for it but when I did the printer name and mentioned the card, there were many hundreds of people saying that brand and model cause overheating issues at the card to the point of destroying cards. I would do like suggested above and see if another printer uses those cards and files just fine (if available) but after seeing so many people mention the same exact issue, I would set aside the time to do a service ticket. Well, actually I would do a crap ton else but that is because I am allergic to tech support calls. I would 1) put the sd card in a different device and download the file and check its stats and details compared to what it was before going in the card. 2) Try a much smaller object print like the boat or similar.
If the card never has issues in the computer but only when in the printer it is leaning hard toward bad contacts or overheating. It destroying cards one after the other could be just a side effect of the overheating, which misleads to thinking bad cards when none would do any different. I would love to hear if anyone has tried these cards that advertise that they are high heat.
If the card never has issues in the computer but only when in the printer it is leaning hard toward bad contacts or overheating. It destroying cards one after the other could be just a side effect of the overheating, which misleads to thinking bad cards when none would do any different. I would love to hear if anyone has tried these cards that advertise that they are high heat.
It gave you the error "insert SD card" on the PRINTER? The printer may max out at 32gb cards. The cards you show are 128gb or 256gb. Possibly too LARGE capacity for the printer.
ergo: 32gb is microSDHC and 64gb and above are microSDXC. An HC reader is not necessarily compatible with XC cards.
Update
Because I am so stubborn, I kept going. I found another card and it worked. I put the new card I got today back in and still it didn't work. Old card I found works, new cards didn't, even after reformat.
I leveled it again, formatted the old found card, placed the file on it and had a successful test print.
I ordered another card but went with a name brand. I will reserve a full test with a long print for the weekend when I can be here keeping my eye on it
Because I am so stubborn, I kept going. I found another card and it worked. I put the new card I got today back in and still it didn't work. Old card I found works, new cards didn't, even after reformat.
I leveled it again, formatted the old found card, placed the file on it and had a successful test print.
I ordered another card but went with a name brand. I will reserve a full test with a long print for the weekend when I can be here keeping my eye on it
It did but it was also the same card I have been using for a bunch of prints including the same exact piece printed successfully the day before that will need 4 of the same
I have a larger project on the workbench today, aquaman's first movie trident. I went for a premade digital sculpt that was closer than anything I could get generated through my meager skill (improving but poor). It was not sectioned and I thought it would be a great opportunity to make a print plan. After many many efforts at getting a center square 1/2 inch core removed, I just gave up and moved to what was available in the slicer, plugs (like legos).
I decided on no supports at all and thereby, no cleanup. So, I split the trident up the middle where the front and back are mirror images of each other and decided to just print everything twice. This makes a truly flat middle surface to glue together with no overhangs and no supports at all. Kudos to all on this thread for teaching me this method. I am truly just following instructions at this point and smiling a lot. On this trident it only works because the sculpter did such a bang on job of mirroring details. Other objects would not so easily copy front to back mirror imaged so just be aware.
When I got to the tines, they would not fit on the bed ..... aka, I couldn't figure out "ungroup".... so I split that down the center through the length of the center tine. This splitting is auto 50 percent, another proof the my sculpter was spot on.
I ended up with a plate for each section (it's a small print bed) as duplicates, front back. The only thing I did not do is pegs front to back which will be a manual drill and dry fit with dowels, later. The first four items, being the first two sections, are done and so far I am loving this. The plugs easily connect lengthwise and the 4 bits stacked nicely to make the bottom one foot of the trident (no adhesive yet).
My plugs did require a support tree per but come off easily, leaving no scarring.
This is a pose only item and will then go up on the wall so I don't need to worry about wandering through a crowd with it. But for a 6 foot plus item coming off an ender 3 neo, I am pretty stoked.
I decided on no supports at all and thereby, no cleanup. So, I split the trident up the middle where the front and back are mirror images of each other and decided to just print everything twice. This makes a truly flat middle surface to glue together with no overhangs and no supports at all. Kudos to all on this thread for teaching me this method. I am truly just following instructions at this point and smiling a lot. On this trident it only works because the sculpter did such a bang on job of mirroring details. Other objects would not so easily copy front to back mirror imaged so just be aware.
When I got to the tines, they would not fit on the bed ..... aka, I couldn't figure out "ungroup".... so I split that down the center through the length of the center tine. This splitting is auto 50 percent, another proof the my sculpter was spot on.
I ended up with a plate for each section (it's a small print bed) as duplicates, front back. The only thing I did not do is pegs front to back which will be a manual drill and dry fit with dowels, later. The first four items, being the first two sections, are done and so far I am loving this. The plugs easily connect lengthwise and the 4 bits stacked nicely to make the bottom one foot of the trident (no adhesive yet).
My plugs did require a support tree per but come off easily, leaving no scarring.
This is a pose only item and will then go up on the wall so I don't need to worry about wandering through a crowd with it. But for a 6 foot plus item coming off an ender 3 neo, I am pretty stoked.
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