Indiana Jones Winks At George Lucas [Pic]

[Supa troop]

I continue to be amazed at all the lets attack the new members mentality that this forum has I see it constantly and to be honest I don't even really like coming here because almost everything that I post is treated in the same way. My wife won't become a member here because of the flaming and attacking. My question is why?

Why do senior members of a forum feel the need to express themselves negatively constantly to younger members who aren't doing any harm.

Unfortunately it's just how this place can be sometime's, in time you grow a thick skin and learn to ignore it.

I'm forever getting pulled up about grammar, i find it funny. It is a known fact that USA and UK word's can differ in spelling although mean the same thing.

The sad fact is some member's here will scrutinise every little word or statement just to get one-upmanship over someone else, it's called "little man behind a pc screen syndrome" and my advice is ignore it and move on.

 

[Nwerke]

I keep hearing about how this place is tough on new members, yadda, yadda, and never seeing it. Maybe this is finally an example of what people are on about.

Oh wait:

You are just finding this out? This has been known for about 25 years. You do know that there are other forums than the OT, right?

is pretty much totally bloody neutral. I don't see the slightest, faintest GHOST of a reason to take offence at that. Anyone who'd get upset at that wouldn't last five seconds at my workplace...which is a whitecollar public service office...and that's just from the ladies, never mind the blokes.

Where was that flaming, again?

 

[Goodwolf]

Rosebud's the sled. That chick's a dude. Bruce Willis was dead the whole time.

Let me save you lot some time here...

MC Frontalot - Spoiler Alert [OFFICIAL VIDEO] - YouTube

 

[Supa troop]

Is Bruce Willis really dead !!:confused










:love

 

[Treadwell]

edit: ya know what, it's none of my business.

 

[Larry Young]

I don't see the slightest, faintest GHOST of a reason to take offence at that. Anyone who'd get upset at that wouldn't last five seconds at my workplace...which is a whitecollar public service office...and that's just from the ladies, never mind the blokes.

Where was that flaming, again?

Mel and the folks feeling she was "attacked" wouldn't last five seconds in my living room. My four year old says more quippy things than what Brad did. A toddler would make you lot cry.

 

[ihs]

I keep hearing about how this place is tough on new members, yadda, yadda, and never seeing it. Maybe this is finally an example of what people are on about.

Oh wait:

You are just finding this out? This has been known for about 25 years. You do know that there are other forums than the OT, right?

is pretty much totally bloody neutral. I don't see the slightest, faintest GHOST of a reason to take offence at that. Anyone who'd get upset at that wouldn't last five seconds at my workplace...which is a whitecollar public service office...and that's just from the ladies, never mind the blokes.

Where was that flaming, again?

"Totally bloody neutral?" Hardly; it's sarcastic, and you and everyone else knows it. Neutral would have been more along the lines of:

"It's actually well known and documented in this community, but it's cool to see someone find it for the first time. Take some time to dig through other threads around here; a lot of fun stuff to explore."

...This happens to me all the time. Someone I'm an acquaintance of finds out I'm into Star Wars. Then they say "Hey, did you know there was actually a little guy inside R2-D2 ? And they guy who wore the Darth Vader costume in the movie didn't actually do the voice, I heard it was a different guy" and so on.

Now, I could be rude toward them, let them know in no uncertain terms that I could run Star Wars fact and trivia circles around them, and make them feel bad for trying to tell a Star Wars 'expert' like me stuff I already know.

Or, I could take the other road. Smile. Listen to them. Wait until they finish their excited half of the conversation. And then I usually tell them how I first got into collection, started making props, and share a fact or two with them that they didn't know. Yeah, it's harder to stand there and hear stuff I already know, but why would I ever want to be rude to someone who is being nice to me, for no reason ? Someone who is excited about something that I enjoy. Someone who cares enough to take the time to make a connection with me about something that I like.

Karma. It's a good thing. Being rude is easy and it's a choice. Being nice is harder and it's also a choice...

 

[Clutch]

When did the term butt-hurt become popular and who invented it?

 

[ihs]

When did the term butt-hurt become popular and who invented it?

Not sure where it started, but it's been around for a while now:

Definition of butt-hurt / Meaning of butt-hurt | The Online Slang Dictionary

 

[Clutch]

I like Mel M Wells, who I shall now call Mellem just because I feel like it. Granted, we've never spoken or anything, but she's a good looking girl who seems to like nerdy things at least to some degree.

So would you call some of the guys here handsome? Just sayin...

 

[Larry Young]

"Totally bloody neutral?" Hardly; it's sarcastic, and you and everyone else knows it.

No way. Also, Martyn's full quote there was "pretty much totally bloody neutral" which is a well-needed qualifier if you're going to accuse everyone of knowing intended sarcasm when we all see it.

I don't care if one side needs to ride in to save the poor damsel while the other side is burping and scratching their balls; what about a little context? It's late at night, and an admitted (by her husband, sure, but, still) firebrand over-reacts to some good-natured albeit rough-around the edges ribbing. OK Brad might have been tonally less curt, but Mel didn't need to jump at shadows, either.

How about we all go back to bitching at me? Because when I cut somebody's stance up with my ninja-sharp vocab, at least I intend to. Brad was driving too fast past Mel's house.

 

[ihs]

No way. Also, Martyn's full quote there was "pretty much totally bloody neutral" which is a well-needed qualifier if you're going to accuse everyone of knowing intended sarcasm when we all see it.

I don't care if one side needs to ride in to save the poor damsel while the other side is burping and scratching their balls; what about a little context? It's late at night, and an admitted (by her husband, sure, but, still) firebrand over-reacts to some good-natured albeit rough-around the edges ribbing. OK Brad might have been tonally less curt, but Mel didn't need to jump at shadows, either.

How about we all go back to bitching at me? Because when I cut somebody's stance up with my ninja-sharp vocab, at least I intend to. Brad was driving too fast past Mel's house.

If we're getting anal about quoting, his exact quote was "pretty much totally bloody neutral" - you forgot the underlining.

And this has nothing to do with riding in "to save the poor damsel" but about being courteous and friendly. I don't think anyone would disagree that it would be nice to see this forum keep growing, with additional, valuable contributions from multiple parties, both new and old. Along the way there will be inevitable posts/threads that don't appear to serve much purpose. However, instead of replying with sarcasm or, as in other cases, outright flaming, perhaps a kindler, gentler reply will encourage the poster to remain but instead dig around before posting in the future. This form of polite "self-policing" encourages healthy participation, without potentially offending other users.

There's a quote about flies and honey and vinegar that should go somewhere in here as well, but I'm late for a meeting.

 

[Larry Young]

I don't think anyone would disagree that it would be nice to see this forum keep growing, with additional, valuable contributions from multiple parties, both new and old.

I don't think anyone is saying otherwise. In this specific case, I disagree with the postulate that Mel's first post was met with sarcasm.

 

[Nwerke]

It's actually well known and documented in this community, but it's cool to see someone find it for the first time. Take some time to dig through other threads around here; a lot of fun stuff to explore.

That wouldn't be neutral, that'd be the kind of well-meaning, crawly, overly hail-fellow-well-met pap that I myself have been guilty of far too often. It gives a false idea of what to expect around here and doesn't lead to happy endings. We are NOT, by and large, the person you portray there; we're a lot more casual and given to banter and teasing than that. Futile at best to pretend otherwise.

I really am seeing where this 'newbies get hammered' complaint comes from, now, I think. Perceptions, to put it nicely. Meh! No more Mr. Nice Guy, I tells ya!!! :lol

I don't think anyone is saying otherwise. In this specific case, I disagree with the postulate that Mel's first post was met with sarcasm.

Bingo. Anyone taking it that way looks massively thin-skinned, from where I'm standing. Eh, let me qualify that - Larry's take is much more prettily phrased and descriptive and I agree with the way he put it. I'm not seeking to throw any fuel on fires here, just attempting to point out to the raised hackles brigade that theirs is not the sole interpretation nor necessarily the most valid.

 

[Capn_Jack_Savvy]

Unfortunately it's just how this place can be sometime's, in time you grow a thick skin and learn to ignore it.

I'm forever getting pulled up about grammar, i find it funny. It is a known fact that USA and UK word's can differ in spelling although mean the same thing.

The sad fact is some member's here will scrutinise every little word or statement just to get one-upmanship over someone else, it's called "little man behind a pc screen syndrome" and my advice is ignore it and move on.

Well perhaps the MODS and ADMINS should start enforcing the rules so that new members and existing members don't feel they don't have the need to return to RPF after joining up:

"Respect Please extend respect to others. Discussion and debate may lead to heated disagreement; approach them in a civil manner, showing respect for the other person's point of view.

• Avoid personal attacks.
• Avoid flaming, trolling or baiting which includes, but is not limited to creating content with the intent to disrupt.
• Avoid hijacking threads. This includes making repetitive dissenting remarks that disrupt the purpose of the thread.
• Avoid harassing or making any type of threat, implied or expressed, including physical threats, or legal threats.
• Be cautious to not misrepresent or besmirch the reputation of any individual, group, site, or company."

 

[ihs]

I don't think anyone is saying otherwise. In this specific case, I disagree with the postulate that Mel's first post was met with sarcasm.

Seriously? Not sure how you can read Jedifyfe's reply and not see sarcasm. "You do know that there are other forums than the OT, right?" seems fairly sarcastic to me, but hey, tomato, to-mah-to, I guess.

And as to the first point - some individuals may say they don't disagree with the premise, but a forum's growth will certainly be impacted when newcomer's are treated with derision, sarcasm, and/or flaming. Again, not saying Jedifyfe's reply was guilty of these (save sarcasm, as I read it), but it certainly didn't fit the bill as a helpful, or even "nice" reply. And if you can't say anything nice, well, I'll let you fill in the rest.

 

[Nwerke]

Bell curves, self-selection, who needs 'em, <waves stick>.

 

[Nwerke]

"Respect Please extend respect to others. Discussion and debate may lead to heated disagreement; approach them in a civil manner, showing respect for the other person's point of view.

The mods have made it very clear that they are buried under a constant storm of complaints from members suffering hurt feelings. They have also made their attitude towards this pretty clear, and seem to expect a degree of adult self-regulation. At least, we generally see them take action only when things have clearly degenerated past the point of civility.

This thread has been entirely civil so far, excepting some intemperate responses. And we've heard some reasonable explanations for that, and things have settled down again. See? Adult self-regulation.

 

[ihs]

...That wouldn't be neutral, that'd be the kind of well-meaning, crawly, overly hail-fellow-well-met pap that I myself have been guilty of far too often. It gives a false idea of what to expect around here and doesn't lead to happy endings. We are NOT, by and large, the person you portray there...

Wouldn't you rather the forum be a nicer, friendlier place, one that treats wayward newcomer's and ill-informed posts with courtesy and respect?

 

[StevenRogers84]

Wouldn't you rather the forum be a nicer, friendlier place, one that treats wayward newcomer's and ill-informed posts with courtesy and respect?

I would.