Indiana Jones 5 officially announced

I just have to ask this…did Disney kill this level of fandom? NO ONE gets THIS excited about Lucasfilm movies, anymore…


…no one waits in long lines…no one camps out for opening day….there just seems to be zero real excitement for anything Lucasfilm produces, anymore.

Well…except for this guy…

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The overall excitement just seems to be gone.

Its true. Me and a coworker waited for 8 hours in line for Ep. III. Even though we worked at the theater, we still had to pay, as Lucas film said no free passes the first 6 weeks including employees.
Her and her friend did my makeup....I had no idea what they were doing til they finished.....lol.
Yeah, I can't even imagine doing this now, and not because of age, just because there just doesn't seem to be a need for so much excitement for these Disney films anymore.......its sad.
(I didn't even have a light saber of any kind, so mine was a papertowl roll just painted.
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I predict that Mission: Impossible will shortly push “Dial “D” For Destiny” off of the box office map, altogether.

No doubt. It's probably going to be a massive hit, proving, once again, that "people don't go to the theater anymore" is a lame excuse for bad movies.
 
No doubt. It's probably going to be a massive hit, proving, once again, that "people don't go to the theater anymore" is a lame excuse for bad movies.
That looks really good. I haven’t been to a mission impossible movie in the theater since the first one. I’ve caught all the rest on streaming. But I think that’s going to get me back into a theater for the next installment.
 
That looks really good. I haven’t been to a mission impossible movie in the theater since the first one. I’ve caught all the rest on streaming. But I think that’s going to get me back into a theater for the next installment.

Hmmmmm…I don’t see a broken-down and depressed protagonist in the M:I trailers

And the kind of stuntwork, lack of overused CG, and gritty realism that made Indy great to begin with seems to be on full display here

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Although…I’m pretty sure that the “passed-out drunk in the recliner stuntwork” was all practical with no CG employed…

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I have seen both movies and as someone who has worked for Lucasfilm and now Disney for 31 years I would love to say that Indy will kick Cruise's ageless face into the next millennium. While I did enjoy Dial of Destiny for the most part, I am afraid Cruise gives the world another lesson in creating action movies and Dial is nowhere near achieving that....

p.s. it was interesting to see both movies employ an extended train sequence. The one in MI is simply astonishing.
 
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The difference between Siskel and Ebert and other professional critics is that they don't preemptively judge a film to fit some kind of agenda.

The second Phoebe Waller-Bridge was attached to Dial of Destiny, there was a very vocal and very angry group of fans who decided to hate the film just for that bit of casting. Without a scrap of evidence to support themselves, they claimed the film was going to be "woke" and that the purpose of Waller-Bridge was to literally erase Indy. And even now, many of those same voices are all backpedaling and saying they were right all along, and the director and cast are all lying and really did reshoot the film - again, without a scrap of evidence to support it. But hey, it gets them clicks.

Anyone who pretends that these very loud and very angry voices don't have an influence on the performance of films, at least to some degree, is naïve. For better or worse (mostly worse), we live in an era where social media absolutely influences brands.
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I think the casting of PWB qualifies as evidence that there will be a character like the ones PWB usually plays & writes. It's not guaranteed but it was a reasonable thing for fans to assume.

When a movie casts Harrison Ford, you don't expect him to play a wimpy evil wisecracking villian. Ford usually gets hired to play a certain type of character. Same with most famous actors.
Thats part of the reason she was cast. Of course fans are going to jump that conclusion and Disney knew it. Disney is playing fans and many are falling in line exactly where they're wanted, creating controversy, creating stories, creating interest.
 
Thats part of the reason she was cast. Of course fans are going to jump that conclusion and Disney knew it. Disney is playing fans and many are falling in line exactly where they're wanted, creating controversy, creating stories, creating interest.

The fans were correct to jump to that conclusion, though. PWB acts fairly PWB-esque in the final cut. And it's reasonable to suspect that she was even more severe before they toned her character down in the reshoots.
 
Hmmmmm…I don’t see a broken-down and depressed protagonist in the M:I trailers

And the kind of stuntwork, lack of overused CG, and gritty realism that made Indy great to begin with seem to be on display here

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Although…I’m pretty sure that the “passed-out drunk in the recliner stuntwork” was all practical with no CG employed…

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Yeah I know this is the Indy Jones thread but Im super excited for Mission Impossible.

I wasnt always a fan of Cruise and he made some stinkers as well but the guy is dedicated to his craft and the MI movies are amazing (was able to watch them all multiple times thanks to streaming) and only get better. I do think this is unfortunately the last one since I dont think Cruise can continue to escape death at his age and recasting Ethan Hunt would need another actor that is as crazy as Cruise to capture that magic doing insane stunts. Still a work of art though.

Also agree that we see what an old Indy "should" look like with his dad in Last Crusade (honestly my favorite of the 3, more than raiders). His father is grumpy, stuck in his ways, and is no action hero as an old man but he still has a deep love for archeology and is able to occasionally best their enemies using his wits compared to Indy using his youth and athleticism. Indy was also only able to get the grail at the end due to his father's lifelong dedication to his study of the grail. It is still the "ultimate relic" and why the skull never really matched up in prominence imo.
 
I think the casting of PWB qualifies as evidence that there will be a character like the ones PWB usually plays & writes. It's not guaranteed but it was a reasonable thing for fans to assume.
Do you even know what she "usually plays and writes?" Because it really seems like you (or those who complain about her) don't. I mean, FFS, she co-wrote the screenplay for No Time To Die, which is among the best reviewed and rated of the Bond films (not JUST the Craig era films) -- currently rated #7 of all of the Bond catalog on Rotten Tomatoes. In fact, she's single-handedly responsible for developing the character of Paloma, one of the best parts of the film. Her television, film, voice acting, and theater career is pretty diverse if any of the complainers were to bother to look into it.

Seems more likely to me that the majority of people who jumped on the anti-Phoebe bandwagon had a VERY limited perspective of what she's done and just ran with it. That's on them, not the casting.
 
Hmmmmm…I don’t see a broken-down and depressed protagonist in the M:I trailers

And the kind of stuntwork, lack of overused CG, and gritty realism that made Indy great to begin with seem to be on display here


Although…I’m pretty sure that the “passed-out drunk in the recliner stuntwork” was all practical with no CG employed…

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Looks like poor Harrison after he saw the reviews for DoD...
 
I do think this is unfortunately the last one since I dont think Cruise can continue to escape death at his age and recasting Ethan Hunt would need another actor that is as crazy as Cruise to capture that magic doing insane stunts. Still a work of art though.
I agree they are fun movies. The good news is this is Dead Reckoning Part 1. A large percentage of Part 2 is already filmed and set for release next June.
 
Do you even know what she "usually plays and writes?" Because it really seems like you (or those who complain about her) don't. I mean, FFS, she co-wrote the screenplay for No Time To Die, which is among the best reviewed and rated of the Bond films (not JUST the Craig era films) -- currently rated #7 of all of the Bond catalog on Rotten Tomatoes. In fact, she's single-handedly responsible for developing the character of Paloma, one of the best parts of the film. Her television, film, voice acting, and theater career is pretty diverse if any of the complainers were to bother to look into it.

Seems more likely to me that the majority of people who jumped on the anti-Phoebe bandwagon had a VERY limited perspective of what she's done and just ran with it. That's on them, not the casting.

James Cameron did a lot of writing on 'Rambo 2'. That's still not the kind of movie you expect when you see "A James Cameron Film" in the opening credits of a show. Cameron still has a clear 'type' and it's reasonable to expect that.


Indy fans took a guess at what PWB's presence meant. They took it as an indicator that Indy would be taken down a peg like Han & Luke Skywalker, and her character would be set up for spinoffs to continue the franchise. Were. They. Wrong?

Instead of coming at it from the viewpoint of "Could PWB bring something good to Indy#5?" you gotta look at it in the context of this particular movie/franchise at this time: "Kathleen Kennedy wants PWB to co-star in (not write) Indy#5 - what's the most likely plan here?"

BTW, co-writing the last James Bond movie is not something to brag about to Indy fans. Indy fans didn't want an Indy movie like that.
 
You're going to believe the media?

Next thing you're going to tell me is that the earth is not flat, and the moon isn't made of cheese. What a world we live in!
I will gladly read the critiques of "The Acolyte" burning and desintigrate into a thousand molted pieces of crap that it'll be. (I cannot watch it, since I cancelled my Disney+ subscription:p)
 
Wow…this does shock me, if accurate.

According to Box Office Mojo, “Dial ‘D’ For Destiny” dropped to Number 2 for the 4th of July against…what movie, exactly?

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James Cameron did a lot of writing on 'Rambo 2'. That's still not the kind of movie you expect when you see "A James Cameron Film" in the opening credits of a show. Cameron still has a clear 'type' and it's reasonable to expect that.

You do realize that when Rambo 2 came out (in '85), the only notable James Cameron films on the market at the time were Piranha 2 and The Terminator. No one knew what a "James Cameron movie" was at the time. :rolleyes:

Indy fans took a guess at what PWB's presence meant. They took it as an indicator that Indy would be taken down a peg like Han & Luke Skywalker, and her character would be set up for spinoffs to continue the franchise. Were. They. Wrong?
"Taken down a peg" exactly how?

At the end of the film, Helena goes off for ice cream and Indy grabs his fedora, so this sets her up to continue the franchise how?

Instead of coming at it from the viewpoint of "Could PWB bring something good to Indy#5?" you gotta look at it in the context of this particular movie/franchise at this time: "Kathleen Kennedy wants PWB to co-star in (not write) Indy#5 - what's the most likely plan here?"

I get it. You are completely against the notion that maybe, just maybe, the filmmakers cast her because they did actually think she could bring something good to the film (which I personally think she does), because that flies in the face of the conspiracy theory "Kathleen Kennedy is evil" trope. Funny how people like to cherry pick the few properties of hers they didn't like while completely disregarding to LONG history and very hands-on involvement with many of their favorite films. :rolleyes:

BTW, co-writing the last James Bond movie is not something to brag about to Indy fans. Indy fans didn't want an Indy movie like that.
Ah... the ol' moving the goal posts tactic. You claim Waller-Bridge is a one-trick pony. I show you how she's not, so now that's no longer the criteria. Got it. You're not worth continuing a discussion with, then. By the way, you do realize that the entire reason Raiders of the Lost Ark was made was because Lucas and Spielberg wanted to make a James Bond film? :rolleyes:
 
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