CopperRevan
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I just read this article in Den of Geek(not sure how true or accurate because i don't usually quote from the internet)
But this is what Mangold described as his reasoning for the ending.
For those reasons, Mangold — who co-wrote the script with Jez Butterworth, John-Henry Butterworth, and David Koepp — sees the film as less a time travel story and more an exploration of the concept of time itself. “It’s about time, it’s about getting older and it’s about the world changing around you,” he argued. “And as long as there’s been Indiana Jones movies, the power of the relic has always had some kind of dialogue with the theme of the movie itself. So it was no shocker.”
In the same way, Helena’s decision to punch out Indy at the end of the movie wasn’t about shocking audiences or putting her over Jones to set up a new hero. Rather, it came from a real need she had as a character.
“She loves him and she needs a father. She needs him,” Mangold said of Helena’s actions. “Her father died when she was young and the godfather never showed. And so this movie became a chance for this particular father to prove himself again, and in his own way, climb out of the grief he felt about his own loss.”
So, that's what you do to someone you profess to love and need?..punch them in the face? To me it sounds like they were playing back on the time Marion slapped Indy in the face in Raiders but i lack context. The takeaway i have is that these themes are deep and may warrant a closer look but if you dive in their too deep wouldn't that be too much of a distraction for a supposed, light-hearted adventure film? I mean divorce?...experienced it as a child and as an adult...A son dying? I have 3 sons and can't even imagine, am almost in tears even thinking about that...being at the end of your life with no hope? Sure, these are real things but come on...this is supposed to be Indiana Jones. If we were kids watching this(even though there was serious tones in the originals too) there is way too much depression going on here. If this wasn't meant for kids? That would explain why people aren't showing up as well. We were kids when Indy first came to us and we loved it. If the target audience is 40 and up, well...you have your answer. lol
But this is what Mangold described as his reasoning for the ending.
For those reasons, Mangold — who co-wrote the script with Jez Butterworth, John-Henry Butterworth, and David Koepp — sees the film as less a time travel story and more an exploration of the concept of time itself. “It’s about time, it’s about getting older and it’s about the world changing around you,” he argued. “And as long as there’s been Indiana Jones movies, the power of the relic has always had some kind of dialogue with the theme of the movie itself. So it was no shocker.”
In the same way, Helena’s decision to punch out Indy at the end of the movie wasn’t about shocking audiences or putting her over Jones to set up a new hero. Rather, it came from a real need she had as a character.
“She loves him and she needs a father. She needs him,” Mangold said of Helena’s actions. “Her father died when she was young and the godfather never showed. And so this movie became a chance for this particular father to prove himself again, and in his own way, climb out of the grief he felt about his own loss.”
So, that's what you do to someone you profess to love and need?..punch them in the face? To me it sounds like they were playing back on the time Marion slapped Indy in the face in Raiders but i lack context. The takeaway i have is that these themes are deep and may warrant a closer look but if you dive in their too deep wouldn't that be too much of a distraction for a supposed, light-hearted adventure film? I mean divorce?...experienced it as a child and as an adult...A son dying? I have 3 sons and can't even imagine, am almost in tears even thinking about that...being at the end of your life with no hope? Sure, these are real things but come on...this is supposed to be Indiana Jones. If we were kids watching this(even though there was serious tones in the originals too) there is way too much depression going on here. If this wasn't meant for kids? That would explain why people aren't showing up as well. We were kids when Indy first came to us and we loved it. If the target audience is 40 and up, well...you have your answer. lol
