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Kelly Randell this is the link click on Kelly Randell and it will take you to the user flickr uploads, there is lots on there.
Halliwax's weird V3 theory
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Please tell me that we can see the bottom of the pommel in one of those pics!
Well, it is consistent with the look and labeling of other ROTJ continuity photos...and looking at how the number “4” is written, the same party appears to have labeled the photos.
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I have doubts about the authenticity of this photo. I wonder if this was photoshopped evidence fabricated to try and make this prop appear to be original
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Profiles in History's "Screen Used" Obi-Wan Kenobi Lightsaber from "Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hope" Raises Questions - Movie Prop Collecting with Jason DeBord's Original Prop Blog Film & TV Prop, Costume, Hollywood Memorablia Pop Culture Resource
Today, Profiles in History is making news with Associated Press announcing one of the highlights of their next Hollywood auction, a “screen used” prop lightsaber attributed to use by Sir Alec Guinness as Obi-Wan Kenobi in Star Wars: Episode IV – A New Hope. Profiles in History claims that the...
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I have doubts about the authenticity of this photo. I wonder if this was photoshopped evidence fabricated to try and make this prop appear to be original
Profiles in History's "Screen Used" Obi-Wan Kenobi Lightsaber from "Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hope" Raises Questions - Movie Prop Collecting with Jason DeBord's Original Prop Blog Film & TV Prop, Costume, Hollywood Memorablia Pop Culture Resource
Today, Profiles in History is making news with Associated Press announcing one of the highlights of their next Hollywood auction, a “screen used” prop lightsaber attributed to use by Sir Alec Guinness as Obi-Wan Kenobi in Star Wars: Episode IV – A New Hope. Profiles in History claims that the...
Earlier in this year, I proved beyond a doubt that the prop being auctioned by Profiles was a replica made by Darth Hez in the early 2000s.
This photo seems to show a saber that looks a hell of a lot like the Hez, fake saber that Profiles was trying to sell.
In particular, I note the oversized pommel, that was based on a later AS handwheel, the tri-ring, and the thin top row on the grenade frag body.
I would like to know the source of this continuity photo.
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Hi Anakin, Do you know why someone would go to the extent of photoshopping an image like this? and also wouldn't you need to have an original base photo to add too and edit and if this image hasn't been seen before how could it of been photoshopped as you would need to have a base picture. Is there other images that the person has added on Flickr that also have not been seen? Also does anyone have a darth hex sabre image? Also if this image is true and original and proves what others have been querying and debating then that's impressive
That schmutz on the photo would appear to be blood...perhaps we could get DNA? 
Hmmmm...
Well, the balance pipes don’t match up with the continuity photo lightsaber emitter being very dark while the auction photo emitter is pretty clean, overall.
From a photoshop perspective, does the image of R2 match any other shots out there?
Hmmmm...
Well, the balance pipes don’t match up with the continuity photo lightsaber emitter being very dark while the auction photo emitter is pretty clean, overall.
From a photoshop perspective, does the image of R2 match any other shots out there?
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Lots of new photos...
Edit: lots of new photos to me, I have seen smaller groups of these photos
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I have just checked all the way through and none of the objects have appeared in any other photos, and there are other new images found with this one too.That schmutz on the photo would appear to be blood...perhaps we could get DNA?
Hmmmm...
Well, the balance pipes don’t match up with one being very dark while the other is pretty clean, overall.
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From a photoshop perspective, does the image of R2 match any other shots out there?
Well I'm just speculating here of course, but if I was the guy who tried to pass the Darth Hez saber off as original through Profiles, I might very well take some pictures of it, that were not published when the profiles Darth Hez saber went to auction, and photoshop them into what looks like ROTJ continuity photos to use as evidence that my fake prop was an original. But, as I say, that's just me speculating.
Well, the other new images that were found with this one come from here 1983 Continuity Polaroids
But... weirdly, this OWK saber picture was not a part of the lot where all these other images seem to come from.
Alley, I'm not speculating that they photoshopped the picture Profiles released into an old Polaroid background. I'm speculating that the person who owned the fake Darth Hez prop might have taken additional pictures of the fake prop and manipulated the images to look like ROTJ continuity Polaroids in order to falsify evidence of originality.That schmutz on the photo would appear to be blood...perhaps we could get DNA?
Hmmmm...
Well, the balance pipes don’t match up with the continuity photo lightsaber emitter being very dark while the auction photo emitter is pretty clean, overall.
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From a photoshop perspective, does the image of R2 match any other shots out there?
And this other pic from the new Fickr account of Mark holding this very saber
Isn't it kinda funny how Mark's head is almost in the exact position as it was when he was sitting in PapaPalpatine's barcalounger
here
It's almost like someone copied the look straight out of this photo in order to show Luke holding a prop that didn't exist in 1983.
Isn't it kinda funny how Mark's head is almost in the exact position as it was when he was sitting in PapaPalpatine's barcalounger
here
It's almost like someone copied the look straight out of this photo in order to show Luke holding a prop that didn't exist in 1983.
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I completely understand your point but why would they then create a lot of other images from absolutely nothing on images which are polaroid which I can imagine are not as high definition, but also you need an already taken image to use an object from it and if the object doesn't exist anywhere else you cant just create it from nothing, so forget the sabre..... it means everything else in that polaroid are photoshopped and also all the new polaroid's they would also would have been done too. I mean does any body actually know how many sabres were made and used, as no one does for certain and what was used during certain scenes, so if this polaroid is 100% genuine with the others found this blows out all the sceptics that have said there wasn't another. I am so fascinated by this how an interest of snooping has brought some excitement at least.
The other images were already known. The fake ones mysteriously don’t exist in this Archive:
www.starwarsarchives.com
1983 Continuity Polaroids
A gallery full of all the continuity polaroid's released so far for Return of the Jedi. Before the age of digital photography the use of a polaroid camera to catalogue continuity between takes was standard in the industry. They reveal an interesting look in the process of pre-digital film making.
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Anakin Starkiller, Sadly I'm almost sure you are right.....
I just did a bit of photoshoping of my own and I don't really know how to show nicelly my results but overlaying the "new" image and the one from leia in the link you provided, the label is exactly the same, that was just mirrored vertically. the 34 was erased with a small dot still sligtly visible in one spot and the right 4 of the 44 is an exact duplicate of the one from 34. The left dot seems to be a copy of that same 4 with a bit of fluidity from photoshop to change a bit his shape but you can still clearly see they are similar.
this seems like a very elaborate scam! we need to find the original picture of R2. Looking at the picture, it's hard to verify that but I would say that maybe the saber and the arm was added. The shadows are suspicious.
I just did a bit of photoshoping of my own and I don't really know how to show nicelly my results but overlaying the "new" image and the one from leia in the link you provided, the label is exactly the same, that was just mirrored vertically. the 34 was erased with a small dot still sligtly visible in one spot and the right 4 of the 44 is an exact duplicate of the one from 34. The left dot seems to be a copy of that same 4 with a bit of fluidity from photoshop to change a bit his shape but you can still clearly see they are similar.
this seems like a very elaborate scam! we need to find the original picture of R2. Looking at the picture, it's hard to verify that but I would say that maybe the saber and the arm was added. The shadows are suspicious.
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