Firefly Jayne's Revolver

Discussion in 'Replica Props' started by Sidewinder, Mar 8, 2006.

Tags:
  1. Sidewinder

    Sidewinder Sr Member

    Trophy Points:
    1,682
    Half an hour with a hacksaw and the crappest bench grinder known to man:

    [attachmentid=7074]

    SAS
     
  2. RedTwoX

    RedTwoX Sr Member

    Trophy Points:
    1,036
    A buddy of mine just picked up a Denix LeMat, and I'm interested in doing this conversion once I finish two Mauser-to-Solo conversions. I'll be watching with great interest. Looks like you've got a good start. Best of luck.
     
  3. Pretzellogic

    Pretzellogic New Member

    Trophy Points:
    16
    Alright, how the hell did you get that * thing apart?
     
  4. Sidewinder

    Sidewinder Sr Member

    Trophy Points:
    1,682
    I held the barrel in one hand, muzzle upwards and tapped the front of the trigger guard with a hammer until it fell in two. :) It's just a push fit.

    [​IMG]

    SAS
     
  5. Pretzellogic

    Pretzellogic New Member

    Trophy Points:
    16
    Thanks. Really dig the "parts is parts" illustration.

    What are you planning on using for the add-ons for jayne's revolver?
     
  6. Sidewinder

    Sidewinder Sr Member

    Trophy Points:
    1,682
    I'm going to use metal as much as I can - Aluminium mostly.
    eg:
    [attachmentid=7150]
    Added the crenelated barrel topper, made out of 3/8ths of an inch square Ally bar.

    I also bought myself a decent (cheap:) ) flat file and sorted the bottom of the barrel after the hacksaw butchery.

    SAS
     
    Last edited: Aug 24, 2009
  7. Sidewinder

    Sidewinder Sr Member

    Trophy Points:
    1,682
    Hmm, hit a slight snag with the underbarrel - according to my calcs it should be somewhere between 25-30mm OD.
    However, even at 25mm it wont fit in place of the original shotgun barrel without either grinding a flat on it or removing some material from under the main barrel.

    [attachmentid=7152]

    Any thoughts?

    SAS
     
  8. glim999

    glim999 Sr Member

    Trophy Points:
    1,231
    I'd grind it flat. Not gonna be noticable once it's all together anyway. Right?
     
  9. RedTwoX

    RedTwoX Sr Member

    Trophy Points:
    1,036
    I'm inclined to agree. Modify the greebly, not the barrel. I've got some screen caps at home. I'll take a look at them tonight and see if anything that will help.
     
  10. Sidewinder

    Sidewinder Sr Member

    Trophy Points:
    1,682
    Check this pic out, to me it looks like the barrel has been modded not the grrebly tube.

    [​IMG]

    SAS
     
  11. Pretzellogic

    Pretzellogic New Member

    Trophy Points:
    16
    Did you grind the front sight off as well, or is there an easier way of doing it?
     
  12. Macklin

    Macklin Well-Known Member

    Trophy Points:
    706
    Looks like the lower barrel has a chromed sleeve that fits over it somehow.

    If you go this route you can make the cylinder so that it butts up against the bottom of the octagonal barrel. Then fashion a groove in the sleeve so it will slip over the cylinder.

    I can't tell from the above pic but there might be some decorative side grooves on it as well.
     
  13. Sidewinder

    Sidewinder Sr Member

    Trophy Points:
    1,682
    The foresight I sawed off flush to the barrel and then sawed/filed the slot.

    Underbarrel parts:
    [attachmentid=7165]

    Together in rough position:
    [attachmentid=7166]

    I'm gonna have to shave off a total of 6mm from unbarrel sleeve/barrel to make this stuff fit together.
    I settled on a dia of 29mm for the underbarrel sleeve, comparing it to the pics at the same angles etc it looks bang on to me.
    No slots and hole in sleeve yet - I figure slots at 3, 9, 5 & 7o'clock and the hole at 6.

    I'll put diagrams up with measurements on that I used in a bit.
    Here we go:
    [attachmentid=7167]

    SAS
     
  14. Pretzellogic

    Pretzellogic New Member

    Trophy Points:
    16
    Wow, that looks great.

    If you don't mind me asking, where are you getting the pieces for the underbarrel?
     
  15. Sidewinder

    Sidewinder Sr Member

    Trophy Points:
    1,682
    Thanks.

    I've got a great metal and plastics stockholder near me that sell just about every shape, size and material, it's really handy.

    SAS
     
  16. Pretzellogic

    Pretzellogic New Member

    Trophy Points:
    16
    No kidding.

    Would you be willing to purchase extras and ship? I've got a denix Lemat lying around and have been watching this thread intently.
     
  17. Pretzellogic

    Pretzellogic New Member

    Trophy Points:
    16
  18. Sidewinder

    Sidewinder Sr Member

    Trophy Points:
    1,682
    Chamfered the underbarrel sleeve:
    [attachmentid=7198]

    Pretzellogic wrote:
    "Would you be willing to purchase extras and ship? I've got a denix Lemat lying around and have been watching this thread intently."

    Are you after the raw material or machined bits?

    SAS
     
  19. Pretzellogic

    Pretzellogic New Member

    Trophy Points:
    16
    Either I suppose, but I'd probabaly want the machined parts if you're willing to do it.

    You'd probably find a couple people on the board who were willing to pay for parts.
     
  20. Mantroon

    Mantroon New Member

    Trophy Points:
    2
    well heres a pic that might help

    Firefly Prop Display

    Note the trigger guard, because of the weight of the gun, putting your middle finger over that extra bit sure helps to balance the weight (believe me, i tried it)
     
  21. TD5422

    TD5422 Well-Known Member

    Trophy Points:
    521
    I know I would love to buy the parts.. :D

    What did you use to attach the piece to the top of the barrel?

    thanks
     
  22. TD5422

    TD5422 Well-Known Member

    Trophy Points:
    521
    Are you going to do the "cavalry" trigger guard?
     
  23. Sidewinder

    Sidewinder Sr Member

    Trophy Points:
    1,682
    I used some small 'star' headed bolts I had lying about - prob not accurate but they stop it from falling off :)

    The trigger guard i'm looking at buying, but i'll prob have a crack at making one too.

    SAS
     
  24. Sidewinder

    Sidewinder Sr Member

    Trophy Points:
    1,682
    Slots and hole cut in bottom. Slots are a NIGHTMARE to do... :angry

    [attachmentid=7211]

    ...and I need one more slot on each side :unsure

    SAS
     
  25. Pretzellogic

    Pretzellogic New Member

    Trophy Points:
    16
    That looks so very sweet.
     
  26. Sulla

    Sulla Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

    Trophy Points:
    1,635
    I'd be more than happy to jump on a parts (machined or raw) bandwagon. I've got Denix too but haven't gotten' around to working on a conversion.

    Thanks. And keep up the awesome work.
     
  27. RedTwoX

    RedTwoX Sr Member

    Trophy Points:
    1,036
    I agreed. Great work so far. Kep the updates coming.
     
  28. Sidewinder

    Sidewinder Sr Member

    Trophy Points:
    1,682
    Having given up on hand cutting slots as they tend to end up a bit banana-ish. I have converted my Lathe to a miller and have got lovely straight and even slotability now.
    So i'm starting again on the under barrel.

    SAS
     
  29. Pretzellogic

    Pretzellogic New Member

    Trophy Points:
    16
    Can't wait for pics :D
     
  30. Sidewinder

    Sidewinder Sr Member

    Trophy Points:
    1,682
    Slot by hand:

    [attachmentid=7256]

    Eeeew.

    Slot machine (ignore the large ends, that was me fiddling):

    [attachmentid=7257]

    Luverly.

    SAS
     
  31. Sidewinder

    Sidewinder Sr Member

    Trophy Points:
    1,682
    New part on left , old on right. Need to cut the three chamfers on the bottom of the new part and remove a wedge at the top for it to fit on the denix.

    [attachmentid=7271]

    SAS
     
  32. Sidewinder

    Sidewinder Sr Member

    Trophy Points:
    1,682
    Underbarrel mostly done. Needs a bit of emery work still though.
    Parts loosely fitted together:
    [attachmentid=7276]

    Parts seperate:
    [attachmentid=7280]

    Triangular shroud piece is next :)

    SAS
     
  33. Sidewinder

    Sidewinder Sr Member

    Trophy Points:
    1,682
    Basic shape of triangular shroud cut and in rough position:
    [attachmentid=7306]

    SAS
     
  34. Pretzellogic

    Pretzellogic New Member

    Trophy Points:
    16
    Do you have an idea as to how the shroud attaches to the gun? I seem to remember it being hinged.
     
  35. Sidewinder

    Sidewinder Sr Member

    Trophy Points:
    1,682
    See Post #10 in this thread, you can see the Cavalry style takedown lever that it is attached to.

    SAS
     
  36. Sidewinder

    Sidewinder Sr Member

    Trophy Points:
    1,682
    Triangular part almost complete:

    [attachmentid=7330]

    [attachmentid=7331]

    Made it from a solid piece of Ally, forming from thin sheet was just too difficult due to the shape.

    SAS
     
  37. Sidewinder

    Sidewinder Sr Member

    Trophy Points:
    1,682
    Triangle piece finished and placed in position:

    [attachmentid=7339]

    Next is making the takedown lever and attaching it to the Denix and the triangular shroud.

    SAS
     
  38. RedTwoX

    RedTwoX Sr Member

    Trophy Points:
    1,036
    Beautiful work Sidewinder. That is some impressive work. Keep the updates comin'.
     
  39. Sidewinder

    Sidewinder Sr Member

    Trophy Points:
    1,682
    Got bored of the triangular area, so started in on the trigger guard:

    Old TG chopped off with hacksaw and bench grinder (incorrect lanyard ring gone too):
    [attachmentid=7359]

    Beginings of an ally armature:
    [attachmentid=7360]

    An evening's milliput sculpting and a blast of black spray this am:
    [attachmentid=7361]

    A real cavalry TG for comparison:
    [attachmentid=7362]

    No way was I carving that complex shape out of ally.

    SAS
     
  40. Sidewinder

    Sidewinder Sr Member

    Trophy Points:
    1,682
    Threw all the parts together for a comparison to a std Denix:

    [attachmentid=7363]

    Had to grind the trigger tip off as it was fouling the guard. Red ball on end of rod is from an xmas cracker puzzle. No takedown lever or lanyard ring as yet.

    SAS
     
  41. Pretzellogic

    Pretzellogic New Member

    Trophy Points:
    16
    Looks amazing, as always.

    Will that trigger guard actually hold the weight of the gun?
     
  42. Sidewinder

    Sidewinder Sr Member

    Trophy Points:
    1,682
    That particular one can no problem, it is milliput (which sets really hard & strong) surrounding an aluminium frame.
    If (and its a big if) I cast it in resin, then it would probably hold the weight but wouldn't be a good idea to dangle it from for any amount of time.

    SAS
     
  43. Pretzellogic

    Pretzellogic New Member

    Trophy Points:
    16
    Thanks. I was just wondering if you would be able to handle the gun without snapping anything important off. :D
     
  44. Darkknight0667

    Darkknight0667 Sr Member

    Trophy Points:
    1,035
    Bump to see if there's been any progress on this very interesting conversion.
     
  45. Sidewinder

    Sidewinder Sr Member

    Trophy Points:
    1,682
    I've got a couple of parts sets to do for members here (you know who your are). So i've had to put finishing my own gun on hold at the moment. Tsk, some people eh? :)

    Anyway, here is a lanyard post update:
    [attachmentid=7463]
    Or a towball for a very small trailer.

    SAS
     
  46. Sidewinder

    Sidewinder Sr Member

    Trophy Points:
    1,682
    Finished the takedown lever (non-functional), placed in position:

    [attachmentid=7483]

    The lever has a small tab on one end that push fits into the wedge and a slot needs to be milled for it in the Denix barrel part (shown) and frame part (not shown).

    Final mods to do are put a groove in the Denix's cylinder to give the impression it comes apart (see pic, post #10), and round the square edges on the nine 'strikers' on the cylinder.
    As seen here:
    [​IMG]

    SAS.
     
  47. Noeland

    Noeland Sr Member

    Trophy Points:
    2,366
    Does anyone know, was this LeMat converted to fire cartridge blanks? I don't think he ever actually fired this gun on camera, did he?

    I do remember seeing it field stripped, and that there were brass cartridges lined up.

    I am enjoying seeing the progress on this project, by the way. Thanks for all the posts and photos.

    Njc----------------------
     
  48. ssdesigner

    ssdesigner Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

    Trophy Points:
    1,830
    I believe the $pendy Calvary versions that you can get from places like Cabella's do in fact fire blanks because they are used for re-inactments.

    -Ss
     
  49. Sidewinder

    Sidewinder Sr Member

    Trophy Points:
    1,682
    He shoots one of his old gang in the foot with it in 'Out of Gas'. You can see a puff of smoke come from the gun.

    SAS
     
  50. Sulla

    Sulla Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

    Trophy Points:
    1,635
    Doesn't he also shoot tatoo-face in the leg with it on Train job? You know when he was half doped up on the stairs in the cargo bay?
     

Share This Page