Factory Entertainment Noisy Cricket
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Def agree, still have mine and is as close to the original for me. Maybe if these new replicas come down in price I'd get one to tinker with.
If you go back to the first page of this thread and read post #10, one of the FE people explains why they went with blue instead of green. That is where it was posted about the green hose.
Got my shipping info. Honestly, I forgot I preordered this, but it looks like it'll be here tomorrow.
Sean
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Ummm...yeah. I know where they posted the lie.
:lol Yeah, cause it's right up there with "who killed Kennedy".
Say whatever you whant, kids. I held in my hands the photographs of the MiB ONE cricket and it was green gel with a sbreen. I believe Rylo actually held it in his hands.
But, you guys go ahead and believe what you'd like.
Whatever, dude. Live in denial. I saw what I saw and I'm not the only one. SOMEONE has to be wrong, and god forbid it's a prop company! :lol
TylerHam
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Who exactly are we trying to fool? Someone maybe mistook one small translucent textured green piece of plastic for another? And the point itself is irrelevant because we came out and said why we changed it to blue anyway?
Im just having a hard time figuring out this dramatic "It's a lie" scenario you are brewing.....
PS - To be in "denial" I think you actually have to BE denying something....
Im just having a hard time figuring out this dramatic "It's a lie" scenario you are brewing.....
PS - To be in "denial" I think you actually have to BE denying something....
There were multiple pieces although Rick G did supply the original pieces. I remember talking with the Icon's guys about the original in their hands and they noted there were a few pieces that were different from each other. It was also hinted they may have returned a modified one back to Sony, which may have been with substituted parts. The first noisy crickets were smaller in size, which you do see with this model, the Icons piece shrunk with the recasting and that is why it looks smaller and off in the barrel sizing. If what EFX is saying is true, I am almost certain it is because Sony sent them the piece Icons, who then ripped apart and popped back together, with possibly a new interior piece. At least, that is my own theory on this given some knowledge talking with the group that first tried to license this piece.
There is no way a piece of garden hose is fitting into a cricket. Period. There is simply no room. There's also no reason at all for anyone at Icons to have altered or 'modified' anything within the prop. In fact, it was all so cleverly engineered, there really wasn't anything that one could lose. Besides, we handled the same reference material years after Icons had it (on loan from Sony) and it contained a green gel and a piece of fly screen. I'm not sure why this is even being debated since Rick has already confirmed the source material.
Having gone back and read this thread, it appears the whole hose hypothesis was born from a study of screen grabs and not an actual hand's-on study of the prop. It's my understanding Sony no longer had any crickets for reference (as of roughly 4 years ago) when another company with whom I am familiar was contemplating licensing. I suspect this explains the lack of reference material resulting in certain judgement calls having to be made. It happens...sometimes ya gotta do the best with what you've got.
I confess this is perplexing to me since two other companies used the exact same materials. The screen and green gel that is. To overlook such a detail suggests one of two things. Either they wanted to be unique and set them selves apart from previous replicas or someone presumed the other two companies who previously held the license must've been wrong. Either way, simply checking with the original prop maker could've eliminated all doubt.
As I've said, the J2 they did was just phenomenal. I have no doubt the metal work on the cricket will be the same. Just a damned shame this detail was overlooked.
Having gone back and read this thread, it appears the whole hose hypothesis was born from a study of screen grabs and not an actual hand's-on study of the prop. It's my understanding Sony no longer had any crickets for reference (as of roughly 4 years ago) when another company with whom I am familiar was contemplating licensing. I suspect this explains the lack of reference material resulting in certain judgement calls having to be made. It happens...sometimes ya gotta do the best with what you've got.
I confess this is perplexing to me since two other companies used the exact same materials. The screen and green gel that is. To overlook such a detail suggests one of two things. Either they wanted to be unique and set them selves apart from previous replicas or someone presumed the other two companies who previously held the license must've been wrong. Either way, simply checking with the original prop maker could've eliminated all doubt.
As I've said, the J2 they did was just phenomenal. I have no doubt the metal work on the cricket will be the same. Just a damned shame this detail was overlooked.
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I'm more inclined to attribute this an honest mistake. They really do excellent work over there. I don't think for a moment this was anything Machiavellian. It happens...you make props long enough and sooner or later something is gonna slip by you.
NOTE: Pardon the edits on these last couple posts. I'm choosing my words carefully because I want to be absolutely clear that I'm not bashing, here. My intent was to explore why a particular detail was seemingly overlooked on an otherwise great prop. Nothing more, nothing less. That is after all what we do here...talk props to death.
Unfortunately, I've had to punctuate the point a little more than I'd normally care to due to ongoing debate with another member. My continued presence is more so for the sake of that discussion as apposed to any real issue with FE or their version of this product.
NOTE: Pardon the edits on these last couple posts. I'm choosing my words carefully because I want to be absolutely clear that I'm not bashing, here. My intent was to explore why a particular detail was seemingly overlooked on an otherwise great prop. Nothing more, nothing less. That is after all what we do here...talk props to death.
Unfortunately, I've had to punctuate the point a little more than I'd normally care to due to ongoing debate with another member. My continued presence is more so for the sake of that discussion as apposed to any real issue with FE or their version of this product.
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Dude. Just stop with this. You're actually making this out to be a much bigger deal than need be. Accept the truth and move on. Is the word of the very prop maker's page you're referencing not good enough for you? Green Gel and flyscreen! Look, PM him and ask him if you refuse to believe anyone else.
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benhs1898 QUOTE: I don't know FunkyJedi, this is from Rick Gamez's page and it looks like it could be a piece of garden hose. It appears the MiB version had no fly screen.
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benhs1898 QUOTE: I don't know FunkyJedi, this is from Rick Gamez's page and it looks like it could be a piece of garden hose. It appears the MiB version had no fly screen.
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I'm not arguing, I've said before I don't care who is right or wrong. I can see that it definitely WAS green gel and fly screen on the MIIB version. This replica looks like it was actually an MIIB version so it definitely is wrong. FE has said they made a conscious decision to change it and though I wouldn't have done that myself, I don't mind it. Sometimes license holders change things because they have to, or because they just do. I actually have more of a problem with the MIIB neuralyzer. I'm still convinced that the MR and the FE versions have the wrong sound effects.
I'm just excited for this prop, I've never owned one. If I can modify it, I think I will.
I'm just excited for this prop, I've never owned one. If I can modify it, I think I will.
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