EFX X Wing Arrival, Thoughts & Pictures

If that pic is the Model Red 5 then where the heck did the dark gray panels come from on the EFX??? And where is the raised detailing on the body that is clearly seen on the screen cap? This is getting depressing...

OK I spent like 5 minutes in MS paint... I resized the EfX pic to "about" the same size just for easy comparison - no its not dae the ame but that's not what I was going for... I then marked up the pic with a bunch of totally obvious things that are very different... ugh...

OMG - I just noticed the Barber poles are on the wrong spot... this has got to be a pre-production shot there's no way that could mess that up in production right???


Jedi Dade

The bottom shot was photographically flipped. Its the starboard side, not the port side in the screen cap.
 
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If that pic is the Model Red 5 then where the heck did the dark gray panels come from on the EFX??? And where is the raised detailing on the body that is clearly seen on the screen cap? This is getting depressing...

OK I spent like 5 minutes in MS paint... I resized the EfX pic to "about" the same size just for easy comparison - no its not dead the same but that's not what I was going for... I then marked up the pic with a bunch of totally obvious things that are very different... ugh...

OMG - I just noticed the Barber poles are on the wrong spot... this has got to be a pre-production shot there's no way that could mess that up in production right???


Jedi Dade

Sorry, JD, I should've explained that I flipped that EFX photo for ease of comparison with the the prop nose. The barber poles are in the right place, and the dark panels do exist on the starboard side - though not that dark, naturalement!
 
Can someone explain to me why people expect these factory produced things to be as good as a kit someone commissioned to be painted? It's a factory churning these out. These things are not designed for the extreme connoisseur who can replicate the studio pieces. They are designed for the nerd with money who does not go to the extremes that we here do.

That said, it looks pretty damned good for what it is.
 
Can someone explain to me why people expect these factory produced things to be as good as a kit someone commissioned to be painted? It's a factory churning these out. These things are not designed for the extreme connoisseur who can replicate the studio pieces. They are designed for the nerd with money who does not go to the extremes that we here do.

That said, it looks pretty damned good for what it is.

I Have to agree. For a production piece, I'm amazed at it!

FB
 
C'mon - I do not think that it should look as good as a custom paintjob but it should be "decent". By decent I mean a paintjob that is at least as good as one I can do as a painter of mediocre skill... not even close to the level of some of the master painters here - but no totally over the top/heavy handed overspray, solid color that should be basically a pre-shade etc... simple stuff, paint-wise. there is a bare minimum that should be expected Quality wise of a paintjob - and those thing I just mentioned "should be" QA rejects... or at least repaints...

Jedi Dade
 
Can someone explain to me why people expect these factory produced things to be as good as a kit someone commissioned to be painted? It's a factory churning these out. These things are not designed for the extreme connoisseur who can replicate the studio pieces. They are designed for the nerd with money who does not go to the extremes that we here do.

That said, it looks pretty damned good for what it is.

For $1200 I would expect it to have a decent paint job and accurate details to the filming miniature! Just because it's the only game in town does not mean that gross liberties can be taken when you are selling something that is supposed to be an accuarte representation of something as iconic as Red 5. Maybe the low sales numbers of this should tip them off that as collectors and modelers, that selling something that "kinda" looks like something isn't the right path to take. If you come here and try and sell something as the be all end all, it better be! Maybe if money was devoted to better detail research instead of the fancy metal wings, opening canopy, etc. we may have ended up with a more visualy accurate replica.
 
Sorry, JD, I should've explained that I flipped that EFX photo for ease of comparison with the the prop nose. The barber poles are in the right place, and the dark panels do exist on the starboard side - though not that dark, naturalement!


I should 've noticed that myself - you guys are getting me into such a frenzy that I didn't stop to notice... :wacko

But stopping to take a seriousl look at it now... I can see where it looks like the nose may be a bit "rounded" at the edges compared to the pic, and the lighing in the screen cap is much harsher, creating deep shadows that are not on the EfX pic. It may be a trick of lighting that makes it look "softer" then the screen cap... its tough to tell...

Jedi Dade
 
For $1200 I would expect it to have a decent paint job and accurate details to the filming miniature! Just because it's the only game in town does not mean that gross liberties can be taken when you are selling something that is supposed to be an accuarte representation of something as iconic as Red 5. Maybe the low sales numbers of this should tip them off that as collectors and modelers, that selling something that "kinda" looks like something isn't the right path to take. If you come here and try and sell something as the be all end all, it better be! Maybe if money was devoted to better detail research instead of the fancy metal wings, opening canopy, etc. we may have ended up with a more visualy accurate replica.

My point is why are you surprised? The reason they sell these things is because they move. They sell out. Yes, they are not accurate, but you KNOW this going in with EFX/MR type stuff. It is made for the fanboy with the money, not the fanboy with the money and the craving for accuracy like we have. Nothing should be shocking about how it looks.

I think it looks great, but I would not buy it.
 
I just got the Sculpting the Galaxy book and looking at the last pic on Rebelscum vs the pic of the back of the x-wing in the book (p.27), it looks like the EFX has the toilet seat looking part upside down.
 
I think the pricepoint was a good deal, and eFX worked very diligently to research, and were innovative in there marketing (free shipping, Mark Hamill Sig..) It doesn't matter how well this X was conceived if the paint application is poorly executed.

This shot is the one that bugs me. Are scribe lines supposed to be white or bare of paint in and above the red panel here?

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-DM
 
I think the pricepoint was a good deal, and eFX worked very diligently to research, and were innovative in there marketing (free shipping, Mark Hamill Sig..) It doesn't matter how well this X was conceived if the paint application is poorly executed.

This shot is the one that bugs me. Are scribe lines supposed to be white or bare of paint in and above the red panel here?

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-DM

In the Hi-res pics that were posted you can see white in the panel lines so i would say it's correct.
 
It just looks TACKY, and i dont mean wet paint either :lol, Colin called it well on the nose, it isnt right is it....just plain wrong.

I do see how guys would compare to a kit built by an artist, which maybe isnt fair, guys like Dean and Guy would run rings around any factory job...but IMO, what im seeing is a terrible factory job period...cheap even?

lee
 
I just got the Sculpting the Galaxy book and looking at the last pic on Rebelscum vs the pic of the back of the x-wing in the book (p.27), it looks like the EFX has the toilet seat looking part upside down.


My understanding is that part on the real models was a mounting port cover and it varied in position, so no real "right or wrong".
 
I like my dirt in panel lines, not around them. That sounds strange reading it back. :confused

But I must say having read comments from Colin and others I can now notice the nose problem, and the dip in the fuselage just before the nose - and that would bug the hell out of me.
I don't know if (apart from the nose) the dims are correct - I spend a great deal of time learning on the SS and GM forums here - but one thing I do know is that that kind of paint job, no matter how accurate the dims are (100% or not) would have me reeling with horror.

Okay, there's an old argument that says 'What you see on screen is not how the models actually looked in real life, due to the many passes the actual film had before the final print,' but I would argue that I want what I see on screen, and for that money - free shipping and a signed plaque aside - it better be a damn good representation and not a slap-dash 'get them out quick' job as it appears here.

It's been said time and time again, but if companies such as Hobby Master can put out beautiful diecast aircraft for such little money, and Century Wings can produce astonishingly detailed aircraft with obviously such attention to quality, then why are we, the SF fans offered such expensive and shoddy merchandise?
I don't mean to offend anyone involved with the development and production of this piece, far from it, I just wonder why the quality (from the RS thread at least) seems so terrible and as has been mentioned, so toylike?
 
I think your point with companies like Century wings etc etc, putting out diecast aircraft, that really do shine in quality...hits the nail on the head Howard.

Look how many MR enterprises were dog rough, Vader lids, ropey Y wings, hit and miss by a mile Falcons...now this X wing, the attention isnt there for Sci fi it seems, its maybe a case of "itll sell out, well make a killing, get it off that line and in the box" kind of attitude...or am i way off?

Limited or not, for £1500 in GBP, id be very sick and need a day off work if that arrived at my door.

lee
 
Look how many MR enterprises were dog rough, Vader lids, ropey Y wings, hit and miss by a mile Falcons...now this X wing, the attention isnt there for Sci fi it seems, its maybe a case of "itll sell out, well make a killing, get it off that line and in the box" kind of attitude...or am i way off?

lee

I dare say you are spot on. Like I said, the not-so-discerning fans will suck these up. I'd rather have one of the SS kits here...and the skills to paint it well enough to do it justice.
 
It's just sad. The SF factory replica market doesn't have to be this bad - I've seen some gorgeous, very finely painted Eagle Transporter factory replicas, for instance. But then, I've also seen very expensive, hopeless 'replicas' of Thunderbird 2 and FAB 1 whose proportions were inferior to the old die-cast toys I had as a kid!

Don't care if this X is just for rich blind nerds, as has been suggested above; if it's deficient as a replica, it's deficient and should be criticised as such. In the interest of maintaining some sort of standard, it's only right to call foul on a 1000 dollar X with a nose that can't go one round with a humble 20 dollar kit.

I'm one of the lucky ones - I have the V3 (and wouldn't trade it for ten times what I paid), but for those without, I'm tempted to put out a plea - Mike, reconsider, help these people...
 
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I agree Colin. I have a V2, and am glad I snagged one. Now, I don't have the uber skills that some on here have, but I'm no slouch either. When my V2 is done this summer, it will have lights and a kick arse paint job. Sadly no metal wings or flip up roof. It will be shaped better, painted better, and cost half as much, if that.:cool

I do hope that EFX takes this feedback and what is to come to heart. I think we all want this company to produce some great SS models and be succesful at it. Star Wars fans, collectors, fanboy geek modelers, etc whatever you want to call us, should not have to pick apart a subject like this, and not at this price. Good luck in the future EFX.
 
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