Door to Heaven

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  1. xeno

    xeno Well-Known Member

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    I had some inquiries about making an Atlantis gate,
    and I have been thinking about how to build the Atlantis Gate, and I think a lot of
    problems could be solved by casting in a transparent resin, like epoxy.

    you would only need to have some leds at the back of the glyph patterns
    to have a good looking glyph.

    I will make a test and take some pics on how this would look.

    anybody know how the Atlantis gate light sequence looks like ??

    Xeno




    Stargate light sequence vid

    now that all the lights have been built in, it's now testing time to get
    the right look for the chevrons.
    the outside lights look good, but the middle ones look to much like
    points of light, this is due to the leds having a narrow beam.

    I'll have to make it more diffuse somehow, but there is not much room
    to play with, maybe I'll hollow out the parts to have more distance between
    the leds.

    the led brightness is great, I took this pic in daylight .. :confused

    here is the older updates

    did my first paint test, it's kinda hard as the original in the series is being lit
    from several places and creates dark and light spots all over the gate.
    I don't know if I should recreate that look or go with a general look,
    my gf told me it reminded her of the metal meteorite inside pattern,
    I think giving a more metal would make ir more mechanical looking
    but would make it more difficult to paint :)

    so give me some feedback on this guys :D

    finished the mould for the outer ring detail (whatever it's called smile.gif)
    it's not easy to cast, as the curvature has to be precise.

    I'll have to adapt these to the shape of the gate, as shrinkage of the parts
    and the place it has to fit between can differ slightly, and I don't want a
    ugly gap.


    the first 9 castings have been made and connected to each other,
    the frame is pretty sturdy only getting the screws in is a bit hard
    with the difficult angle to drill holes.

    the back will be covered with a panel so to hide the wires and such.
    and am still deciding as to use alum or styreen.

    also have made moulds of all the rest parts and already
    have some castings of that.
    I did some experimenting with adding pigment in the resin, but
    it did not get the result I wanted, but it's easyer to see if the casting is good.

    due to the hot weather here, the resin only is workable for 2min's so you
    imagine the speed I have to work to get the resin in the mould and brush
    all the airbubbles out befor it sets, sometimes only seconds after I put the
    lid on the mould it's set :)

    "the idea is to only make finished gates with or without lights
    depending what you want.
    there is not going to be a subscribe/order list, it will be sold when a
    gate is finished, so no waiting or problems with late delivery :))"

    Xeno

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  2. DrStranglove

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    From StarGate?
     
  3. darcjedi

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    awesome... that would go nicely with my coverstone sections :)
     
  4. phase pistol

    phase pistol Master Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Oooo. You could put a mirror in the middle and it would be all practical-like. :p

    There's no way Doctor Girlfriend will object now. :love

    - k
     
  5. Gigatron

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    better yet, put some padding on it and turn it in to a toilet seat. Then every time you flush the toilet, you can pretend you're going off world (or at least sending Mr. Hanky off world). Then it's practical AND it looks just like it does on the show.

    You could be the General Hammond of the TGC (ToiletGate Command) and send hundreds of turds on off world missions. Put a little keypad (with gate symbols, of course) next to the toiletgate and dial up your favorite off world site. Of course, the TGC is more like Atlantis where everything is a one way trip (I hope - I don't think you want anyone coming back through the gate).

    -Fred
     
  6. Watson

    Watson Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Man it is scary how much thought you put into that. :p
     
  7. Gigatron

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    What's even scarier is that I didn't. It all just sorta popped in there. That's the part that really worries me :lol

    -Fred
     
  8. phase pistol

    phase pistol Master Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    :eek

    Oooooo kaaaaaayy...
     
  9. p0sitr0nic

    p0sitr0nic Well-Known Member

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    L M A O
     
  10. Kerr Avon

    Kerr Avon Master Member

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    Very nice, I hope to hear more about it.
     
  11. Watson

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    The size reminds me allot of the mini gate that Orlin built in Sam's basement :)
     
  12. p0sitr0nic

    p0sitr0nic Well-Known Member

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    i was thinkin the same... the mini gate...
     
  13. Styrofoam_Guy

    Styrofoam_Guy Well-Known Member

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    Very nice. I never knew you were into StarGate. Then again I guess it doesn't come up when discussing droids.

    Nice fine detail. It looks very good. Let's just say I have studied the gate very closely for a project I am working on.

    I do like the mirror idea. Any plans to light it up?


    Alex
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  14. xeno

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    Hey Alex great to see you here, and yes sometimes you need a break
    from droiding :)

    I would be very interested in all info you got, in excange for mine LOL

    and I'm working on a light system, and casting parts in clear resin,and also
    going to make room for a mirror.

    but remember guys it's going to take me some weeks to finish this ..

    Xeno
     
  15. Styrofoam_Guy

    Styrofoam_Guy Well-Known Member

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    Marco

    I sent a PM did you get it?


    Alex
    Styrofoam Guy
     
  16. xeno

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    just a small update.

    I did all the parts for the dailer mechanism and top wings, and are ready to be molded.

    then onto the next part, the outer ring construct (or whatever how you call it :D)

    Xeno

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  17. Robot Monster

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(p0sitr0nic @ Apr 18 2006, 02:51 AM) [snapback]1228149[/snapback]</div>
    Should we expect a DVD coming to stores soon?
     
  18. Gigatron

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(tekmage3000 @ May 2 2006, 04:07 PM) [snapback]1236975[/snapback]</div>
    Should we expect a DVD coming to stores soon?
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    Of course - there's entire box sets to be had. There are just too many alien races to be crammed in to one DVD. There are the creators of the Gate system, the Anuscients and the maintainers and guardians, the Assguards and don't forget the evil alien race the, Goa'stool.

    I don't want to give away any more than that, otherwise there'd be no reason to buy the set.

    -Fred

    P.S. Great work on the gate, by the way. I'm definitely interested if can be done with LEDs in the chevrons
     
  19. Watson

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    :eek Wow this keeps getting better.
     
  20. Watson

    Watson Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Any Updates?
     
  21. xeno

    xeno Well-Known Member

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    yes there are updates :)
    didn't get as much time to work on it as I wanted,
    but all parts are almost ready to be molded.

    I changed some stuff to easy the adding of leds en wires
    so the now 2 part mold will be a little more difficult to cast,
    but will ease the work.

    I'm experimenting with coloring the transparent resin to
    get the right look with the leds.

    I'm still three to four weeks away to show some substantional
    finished result, so hang on :p

    Xeno
     
  22. xeno

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    just another small update.

    I made the mould for the biggest part, and some test castings.
    when I get nine castings to make the first full circle, then I can adjust
    all the other details so they can be casted too.

    the idea is to only make finished gates with or without lights
    depending what you want.
    there is not going to be a subscribe/order list, it will be sold when a
    gate is finished, so no waiting or problems or late delivery :))

    Xeno

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  23. Watson

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    :eek That is amazing....
     
  24. xeno

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    again an update :)
    the first 9 castings have been made and connected to each other,
    the frame is pretty sturdy only getting the screws in is a bit hard
    with the difficult angle to drill holes.

    the back will be covered with a panel so to hide the wires and such.
    and am still deciding as to use alum or styreen.

    also have made moulds of all the rest parts and already
    have some castings of that.
    I did some experimenting with adding pigment in the resin, but
    it did not get the result I wanted, but it's easyer to see if the casting is good.

    due to the hot weather here, the resin only is workable for 2min's so you
    imagine the speed I have to work to get the resin in the mould and brush
    all the airbubbles out befor it sets, sometimes only seconds after I put the
    lid on the mould it's set :)

    Xeno

    read the first posting to see all the pics :)

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  25. Kerr Avon

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    Wow. Very cool. That might look good as a frame for a round mirror too.
     
  26. prop fan

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    A mirror with the infinity light effect would be cool
     
  27. Watson

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    <div class='quotetop'>(abntroop1 @ Jun 19 2006, 08:39 AM) [snapback]1263945[/snapback]</div>
    * that looks really good.
     
  28. SgtFang

    SgtFang Sr Member Gone but not forgotten.

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    At 40" I'm thinking 1/6 scale. Can we say "SG-Joe" Diorama? :D

    -Sarge
     
  29. xeno

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    thanks for the great reactions :)

    but I'll need a bit of help from you, as I want to install some led lighting
    and am still undecided as to how and what.

    should I go for 7 chevrons lighted up, as the bottom two are never visible
    and you only use 7 symbols to dial.
    or go for the full 9 chevron light up ??

    also I think adding a flashy led chaser or something is going to make it
    look stupid, unles somebody knows where to buy a 7 (or9) led flash system
    that mimics the stargate a bit.

    Xeno

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  30. Mechinyun

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    <div class='quotetop'>(Gigatron @ Apr 17 2006, 10:23 PM) [snapback]1228127[/snapback]</div>

    What's even scarier is that I didn't. It all just sorta popped in there. That's the part that really worries me :lol

    -Fred
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    hehe
     
  31. SurferGeek

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    Xeno, you could always have the seven chevrons light up in sequence and then at some point all 9 could be lit up? I think they would look better all lit if that's the only option.
     
  32. Gigatron

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    I'd suggest working with Jim (hyperdyne) on a light sequencing board. Then you can have the chevrons light up in the correct order (they're not clockwise or counter clockwise, they kind of jump around).

    Heck, you can even add sound at that point. As each chevron lights, add the chevron engagement sound and after all 9 are lit, have the gate opening sound.

    -Fred
     
  33. Eyes Only

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    I really like that. I would like to get something like that for my office. Let us know when available.

    Lowell
     
  34. xeno

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    that is a good idea, I'll contact Jim.
    But I don't want to make it more expensive then neccesery .

    I also had an idea if printing the gate wave patern on vinyl sheet
    and adding that in the middle :)
    easy to attach and ship (rolled)

    Xeno


    <div class='quotetop'>(Gigatron @ Jun 21 2006, 03:43 PM) [snapback]1265075[/snapback]</div>
     
  35. rocketeer25

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    Hey guys, I had to pull about 10 "I'm interested" type of posts out of this thread. As everyone is aware, "Interest" threads need to go in the JY.

    I'm sure that xeno will put up a thread in the JY when he is ready. :)

    As far as the progress on this piece, it looks awesome. If you wanted to keep the cost down, you could make the piece so that a light kit from Jim could be added later. It keeps the costs down and gives everyone more options...
     
  36. xeno

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    So here a new update, things are moving fast now :)

    finished the mould for the outer ring detail (whatever it's called :))
    it's not easy to cast, as the curvature has to be precise.

    I'll have to adapt these to the shape of the gate, as shrinkage of the parts
    and the place it has to fit between can differ slightly, and I don't want a
    ugly gap.

    Xeno

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  37. abntroop1

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    Man, that's gorgeous. fantastic work.. :cheers
     
  38. xeno

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    did my first paint test, it's kinda hard as the original in the series is being lit
    from several places and creates dark and light spots all over the gate.
    I don't know if I should recreate that look or go with a general look,
    my gf told me it reminded her of the metal meteorite inside pattern,
    I think giving a more metal would make it more mechanical looking
    but would make it more difficult to paint :)

    so give me some feedback on this guys :D

    oh btw this paint test is made up if rejected parts, so don't worry about the
    airbubbles....it's just a test...testing 1..2.

    Xeno

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  39. OhioAstromech

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    Ok, Now you have gone too far...
    First you dazzle us at CIII with your R5 now you are producing professional SG-1 model kits.
    WOW. Marco, That's AWESOME..

    Scot
     
  40. SurferGeek

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    I think some effort to make it appear more as seen on screen would look great, it does appear a little "bland". It's really coming along nicely.
     
  41. OhioAstromech

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    <div class='quotetop'>(SurferGeek @ Jul 3 2006, 10:55 AM) [snapback]1273096[/snapback]</div>
    I would rub it down with a little powdered graphite on the edges.
     
  42. xeno

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    the pic doesn't show the color variation much, but it would look a litle bland
    if the whole gate was like this.

    I did drybrush it all after a dark base coat was applied, then a wash of oilpaints
    to give the details more depth.

    I'll do some darker here and there, and show it


    thanks Scot, well sometimes you need some time off of droiding :lol

    Xeno
     
  43. OhioAstromech

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    I was glad to finally meet you at CIII and I still show friends photos of your R5.
    They can't believe that it is made of wood and plastic.

    How much will you be offering these Stargate kits for?
    Once it is in the junkyard I won't be able to get one for another 62 days :(

    Scot
     
  44. xeno

    xeno Well-Known Member

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    all will be reveiled in the near future :)

    I really can't put a date on things, so just keep your
    eyes peeled.

    Xeno
     
  45. xeno

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    so added some dark spots, one lighter to the right and a darker one to the left,
    also added some more metal to make it more mechanical.

    the pic from the side shows the reflective look better, and you see what a difference
    of the color between the pics is.
    remember every monitor you see these pics on will differ slightly :)

    Xeno


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  46. rocketeer25

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    It looks awesome on my monitor. :)
     
  47. OhioAstromech

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    "CHEVRON III LOCKED..."
    :D

    Like my 36 year old friends 16 year old nephew said when he saw one of my models compared to his uncles.
    "Gee Rob, His models make yours look like mine." :lol
     
  48. OhioAstromech

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    Now I want to build a swimming pool with the gate making up the rim. :D
     
  49. xeno

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    Just a quick update:

    I haven't been able to build as much as I wanted to, due to the hot weather for the last couple of weeks,
    but now as it has cooled a bit I'm back at it.

    and working to install the light system, it's giving me some headaches, as electronics is not my thing.
    every chevron is lit by 8 leds, and sit in a nice small print I milled.
    the lights will lite up one after the other and stay on for 15sec, after it begins from the begining,
    or have it lit permenently.
    and also have some problems with space to put the led contoller, it's just a tad too big, and had to make
    some adjustments to make it fit.
    and looking for the best place to put the switch to change from the sequence to permenently lit.
    as soon as I have some pics with the gate lit up I'll post em :)

    Xeno

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    thanks to the chimp
     
  50. Jedirick

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    This just gets better and better. I keep going back over the images looking at the detail. Incredible work. Worth every hour you've put in to it.
     

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