DL-44 ESB Blaster Discussion - Greeblies POST 208

[Dann]

My Hoth is an OLD Denix base, I've had since the late 90s. I've made a few mods to it over the years, and it was originally a Bespin version.

It could use a little more work, but I'll find the last pics I took of it....

I've changed a couple things since these were taken, but more or less it's roughly the same.

I've made tons of delrin flash hiders over the years, as well as another blaster that I sold, with one of my delrin flash hiders on it.

 

[mgoob]

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[mgoob]

• extractor isn't painted (The Mauser isn’t painted at all. It’s the MGC’s natural original black untouched. Below is a great picture of the prop. Probably the best pic available and the body looks to be unpainted. Notice the notch in the trigger as it’s a different color. Now that you can clearly see that the extractor isn’t painted I believe it confirms this as well. They would have to have taken out the bolt to remove the extracter to keep it from being painted)View attachment 1010467

Gotta disagree with you on this one. It's black, clearly the same color as the painted grip.

All MGC Broomhadles pistols have that ruddy brown-black color. I've more than a few MGC pistols that are black (Artillery Luger, 3 sized of Mk. III Trooper, M-16 etc.) and have had 9 Broomhandles pass through my hands: they are all brownish in color ("plum brown").
This prop is painted. You can see where it wasn't painted: look at the safety, no paint. It must have been in the fire position when it was painted (down).

Also, note that the cross pin that goes through the bolt and the trigger are also a lighter color.

Why isn't the extractor black? It's made of that zinc-plated metal, as used on the internals. Maybe it was masked off. Maybe that zinc plating oxidizes differently after 28 years (photos in 2007).

You can't tell anything from this lo-rez photo.

 

[chubsANDdoggers]

Dann I’ve seen those pics here on RPF for sure. Absolutely beautiful build! I definitely got inspiration from this build when designing my mine. Top shelf stuff!!

 

[chubsANDdoggers]

mgoob it very well could have been painted. I’m still not convinced myself though. I have a back MGC right now that I’m converting into this Hoth blaster (actually the top is gold the bottom is black) and it seems to be matt black similar to what’s been recently seen. The grips have been panted but that happened after the movie was filmed correct? They were brown when filming it looks like.

If it was painted though wouldn’t the pin in the trigger also be black to match? U can also see the safety is down here and it doesn’t seem to match the rest of the Mauser. If it was down as u mentioned when painted u think it would match. But this only seems to raise more questions??

 

[DarthWilder]

I have MGC's with their original finish that appear very black... blue/grey tint, if anything. Perhaps sunlight, humidity, etc. affects the finish after all these years; meaning it might depend on where the MGC lived for most its life. For example, east coast cars have better interiors than west coast cars, and west coast cars don't rust/weather in the same areas.

 

[DarthWilder]

That safety looks like it was swapped from a gold MGC.

 

[thegnome]

Are the scope its mount and the barrel metal?

 

[Dann]

I've had a plum/brown colored MGC, and another that looked almost like real gun blue, more black. But yeah, most the ones I've seen are the brownish hued examples.

I don't think it's painted, but I've been wrong before!

Wait, didn't I just say a few posts ago that I knew EVERYTHING?! *GASP!!

 

[chubsANDdoggers]

An MGC Hoth blaster I’ve been sitting on for a bit now. Here it is how it looked while filming? Only the top part of the Mauser is painted (top was golf) while the bottom is it’s original black. Mystery knob and all..

View attachment 1012391

 

[chubsANDdoggers]

This is how I went about designing the mystery knob. Subjective of course..

 

[thd9791]

My girlfriend posed with my Hoth Blaster to help me here. I still don't understand what I'm seeing, my eyes are playing tricks on me.

I think I see a bump with the same weathering as the knob, on our side of the disc (the camera)

I keep trying to gauge how far away from the edge of the mount it is, so I took a picture from 5 ish feet away and at a similar angle. Does this help anyone?

What confuses me is that the big knob we see on Hoth looks bigger than the glue area. Did they have a knob and cut little holes in the sidewall to account for the screws? Like they cut holes in the sides of the pistons?

 

[Mara Jade's Father]

I've posted this a few times but I have speculated the mystery knob could be shaped "something" like this...

Now this is just an example, I'm not saying this is the knob. But I think that the knob has a pedestal or base that is smaller than the top but just small enough fit into the inner spot with the glue residue. The top of the of the knob is wide enough that it covers 3-holed disk when looking at it directly from the top.

 

[thd9791]

Yea, now that I think about it, a lot of audio knobs have a stem portion that pokes out a little farther than the back of the knob, leaving space against the case for the knob to rotate. Sorry I'm late to this one, or had forgotten it. It definitely looks to me now there was a slight stem, enough for paint to get under there, but they still had to trim holes for the screws to poke out the sides.

 

[thd9791]

Here, I have audio knobs, and I have one that's too big. It looks like the black knob sits half way over the screw heads, kind of like the piston mystery bits

The stem is also too skinny on this knob

Wow that would be a THICK stem to the knob with only a little overhang

 

[thd9791]

I'm back, I'm sorry.

This is a Zenith record player, or turntable knob. bits could be cut out of the outer edge, leaving the inner ring pressed against the mount

 

[chubsANDdoggers]

thd9791 its all subjective obviously until something definite pops up. That screw could easily pop out the side but I think what ur looking at isn’t a screw at all but actually just snow. Plus it Sitting in a strange spot. Looks kind of high up.. ??

Also that’s a FM replica ur using right? Great job with the pose! Keep in mind your going to have to look for a knob to fit his build so the scaling will be off when it comes to finding a correct knob.

 

[Mara Jade's Father]

thd9791 That screw could easily pop out the side but I think what ur looking at isn’t a screw at all but actually just snow. Plus it Sitting in a strange spot. Looks kind of high up.. ??

The bump has a different darker tinge than the snow plus it is giving off a shadow in the same direction of the other shadows on the pistol. The position looks fine to me.

 

[Dann]

When I look at it now, it kinda looks like that could be a bump on the knob itself. Know what I mean? Like a pointer or whatever, just rounded rather than pointy.

 

[chubsANDdoggers]

The bump has a different darker tinge than the snow plus it is giving off a shadow in the same direction of the other shadows on the pistol. The position looks fine to me.

As I mentioned.. truly subjective. The picture is far from clear and it’s a guessing game until we get something definitive. From what I see this is what I get. I also designed up a mystery knob without the groves but I think the groves do seem appropriate..