Luke got to borrow Han’s.. so I don’t see any problem when the opposite happens 
DL-44 ESB Blaster Discussion - Greeblies POST 208
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newmagrathea
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Looks like they used the original cylinders from the invisible V8 and not castings judging by the color of the plastic where the paint has chipped off. Also does it appear that there is a bit of color where the little tab that is under the cylinders where they meet, it looks brass to me.
Luke got to borrow Han’s.. so I don’t see any problem when the opposite happens
Han uses both live-fire blasters in the Bespin dining room scene, too, so it seems to be a recurring theme. I'm a little fuzzy on the rationale for assigning the two C96 to specific characters when they change hands so much - is it solely based on the promo pics where they're easily distinguished? Or maybe because Luke has one in the scene where Fett shoots at him, the other is Han's by default?
I think it’s a combo of promo shots and film stills which lead to who’s blaster is who’s. Luke’s flash hider is clearly more “black” on screen than Solo’s and Luke’s also clearly has the 3/4 light port as well. Han’s outside of the promo pic isn’t as clear about the light port but it appears to be a full circle while his flash his pretty much all silver.
Some people believe that Lukes safety is hallow and not solid. Not sure why that is though as all the pics I have show it being solid..
Some people believe that Lukes safety is hallow and not solid. Not sure why that is though as all the pics I have show it being solid..
That's sort of what I was guessing for Luke (his cut port in the movie and promo pics is clear and definite) but the Han assignment is fuzzier to me - outside of the promo photos, unless the full-port blaster is visible in his holster in other scenes, it seems to me that Han has equal claim on the cut-port as on the full-port, due to the dining room scene... Behind-the-scenes film shows Ford using both in sequence, so both likely made it to screen in long shots. Isn't that the cut-port in the close-up that made it to the final film, though?
Looking back through this thread I found some previous discussion on this point that I either missed (or just forgot): DL-44 ESB Blaster Discussion - Greeblies POST 208
So it seems to be something like: Luke only ever uses the cut-port, in both promo and film, so he can only claim the cut-port, and though Han is seen with both, if we have to pick why not just assign the full-port to him, since Luke has no claim.
I did notice that in the behind the scenes footage the flash-hiders exhibit approximately the same level of grunge during filming of the dinner scene (so the full-port blaster's flash hider was dirtied up in comparison to the promo photos), though the second one has a brighter color to its front-most face (the flat end).
Link to dinner scene filming (go to 63 seconds)
Looking back through this thread I found some previous discussion on this point that I either missed (or just forgot
): DL-44 ESB Blaster Discussion - Greeblies POST 208So it seems to be something like: Luke only ever uses the cut-port, in both promo and film, so he can only claim the cut-port, and though Han is seen with both, if we have to pick why not just assign the full-port to him, since Luke has no claim.
I did notice that in the behind the scenes footage the flash-hiders exhibit approximately the same level of grunge during filming of the dinner scene (so the full-port blaster's flash hider was dirtied up in comparison to the promo photos), though the second one has a brighter color to its front-most face (the flat end).
Link to dinner scene filming (go to 63 seconds)
Mara Jade's Father
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I honestly don't think the prop makers had any desire to put details on blaster and distinguish them as a particular character's. I think any differences in detailing was never meant to be noticed. They must have figured, what idiot is going to sit around going frame by frame through movie and zoom in on details. Who can even get a copy of the movie reels and even so, who has a 70mm film projector. It's not like you can just go buy a copy of a movie for $20. Plus you would need something like a computer from NASA to analyze it. And BTW: Did you see this microwave? It can cook a potato in ten minutes.
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Yes, most likely a brass hex nut.
Totally agreed MJF - it's only us nutty fans doing the individual prop to character assignment
It’s also this small RPF community of who shares info openly that gives these beautiful props.. props!!! Otherwise people would still be mixing them up and butchering the details that make each and everyone a true work of art
newmagrathea
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I think of it as a way to tell the props apart and keep details straight, assigning them to a character that is seen with that specific version the most is an easy differentiator. The so called Han Bespin and Luke Bespin are very similar. I think the only other ones that are very similar are the ROTJ DL-44's, but they are all used by Han only.
That's NUTS giving them original props & costumes!
Even if there is an attendant!
BIG thanks to roymanns & @chubbsAND doggers
We can see what mortifactor couldn't back in July of 2016 in Japan:
BIG thanks to him AGAIN!
Even if there is an attendant!
BIG thanks to roymanns & @chubbsAND doggers
We can see what mortifactor couldn't back in July of 2016 in Japan:
- the back of the bracket is unpainted, same as Luke's blaster
- motor coil bits above the trigger are missing
- nuts to either side of pistons are either brass or zinc plated
- extractor isn't painted
BIG thanks to him AGAIN!
- "The mgc barrel was cut approx 1cm shorter than the edge of the flash hider. Its plugged and the plug is black."
- "Inside the hood of the flash hider is darkened with the same weathering as on the outside."
- "The spacer is made from 2 things"
- "Flash hider is 100% aluminium. The exposed bits had minor scratches on, its definitely aluminium."
newmagrathea
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Do we have any idea what the smaller spacer material is? Wasn't it slightly larger than the brass/copper spacer?
I don't have the exact quote, but if you go back & read all mortifactor's posts you see that they are the same diameter, IIRC.
No space my name
but thank you and of course anytime. Wouldn’t do anyone any good by not sharing.
- motor coil bits above the trigger are missing (probably from LucasFilm lending it out lol)
- nuts to either side of pistons are either brass or zinc plated (looks to be something of that nature but it could be the lighting? Doesn’t seem to show as much on the other pics. Either way on the actual prop they certainly look black. I hate to see brass all of a sudden be the “accurate” look )
- extractor isn't painted (The Mauser isn’t painted at all. It’s the MGC’s natural original black untouched. Below is a great picture of the prop. Probably the best pic available and the body looks to be unpainted. Notice the notch in the trigger as it’s a different color. Now that you can clearly see that the extractor isn’t painted I believe it confirms this as well. They would have to have taken out the bolt to remove the extracter to keep it from being painted)
- "The mgc barrel was cut approx 1cm shorter than the edge of the flash hider. Its plugged and the plug is black." (I don’t think it’s plugged. When you cut the end of the MGC there is an inner barrel and that’s what I believe you are seeing)
Thank you so much for confirming the ledge inside the flash hider!
This is always the way I thought it was, I was confused as to why folks were making them with a taper bore running the length of the inside.
It's the ONLY issue I have with my Anakin Starkiller and Field Marshall versions. Well, Dan's version is a little more accurate looking in the transition taper to the big cone, and I LOVE his version of this flash hider! I just thought the bore was incorrect. Not a big deal, really, I'm still happy with it, obviously.
Regarding the "brass" showing on the "hex nut", perhaps paint was scratched/chipped off sometime in the last 40 years.
Also, it STILL looks to me like the two lower screws on the mounting disc could possibly reach the sides of the piston halves on the other side. I know, I'm CRAZY!
This is always the way I thought it was, I was confused as to why folks were making them with a taper bore running the length of the inside.
It's the ONLY issue I have with my Anakin Starkiller and Field Marshall versions. Well, Dan's version is a little more accurate looking in the transition taper to the big cone, and I LOVE his version of this flash hider! I just thought the bore was incorrect. Not a big deal, really, I'm still happy with it, obviously.
Regarding the "brass" showing on the "hex nut", perhaps paint was scratched/chipped off sometime in the last 40 years.
Also, it STILL looks to me like the two lower screws on the mounting disc could possibly reach the sides of the piston halves on the other side. I know, I'm CRAZY!
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I’ve helped FM with a lot of his DL-44 builds and his Hoth blaster was strongly influenced by my early designs. He’s since had some people influencing him to make changes though. He does an amazing job but it’s hard when everyone is telling you what’s accurate and what’s not unfortunately..
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Please do. I’d love to see them. Is ur Hoth built from parts u also designed?? If my Hoth is close to urs that must mean urs is also pretty darn accurate
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