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Maybe it's because DN is not showing it on a person, but the face covering seems way too short to me. It doesn't look like it would lay over the shoulders correctly. Also, the face covering is a different color than the helmet. I'm not seeing that so much in the screenshot.

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The way DN has it displayed it reminds me of a Pacman ghost.
 
Damn I had an order in for that Sabine helmet and no idea if they had a real limited run or some other issue but I did not get one :(

Contacted them and the next run is not until next year. :( :( :(
 
Damn I had an order in for that Sabine helmet and no idea if they had a real limited run or some other issue but I did not get one :(

Contacted them and the next run is not until next year. :( :( :(

DN may want to put a rush on it as Hasbro is putting a Sabine helmet up for pre-order tomorrow and it is supposed to ship Fall of 2024. This could impact DN's sales. Granted it's a different paint scheme.
 
DN may want to put a rush on it as Hasbro is putting a Sabine helmet up for pre-order tomorrow and it is supposed to ship Fall of 2024. This could impact DN's sales. Granted it's a different paint scheme.
I doubt the Hasbro helmet is related to the DN Sabine helmet being sold out. Especially if the Hasbro is expected to be released in fall 2024. My DN Sabine helmet says made in Mexico. I don't know if any of the other DN products were made in Mexico, but I am not aware of any. I certainly could be wrong, but I suspect the Sabine helmet and helmets previously made in the US are being moved overseas. The Last Jedi Praetorian Guard helmet is also sold out. In one of the interview videos Mark mentioned that the US facility doesn't have the capacity to produce the helmets fast enough for filling the orders.

I wouldn't be surprised if DN and/or efx have an Ahsoka show Sabine helmet released before the Hasbro is released.

If DN makes one, they shouldn't reuse the Rebels Season 2 mold because the live action helmet has some differences in the design. The season 2 helmet was an attempt at a realistic version of the animated helmet.
 

This is the ONE trooper helmet I have been waiting for. Love this bucket!
 
Other than the Kylo Ren ensemble, are there any Anovos preorders that Denuo Novo hasn't added to their items? I know there are some Anovos items Denuo Novo hasn't produced yet, but I don't know if any of those had unfilled preorders.
 
I doubt the Hasbro helmet is related to the DN Sabine helmet being sold out. Especially if the Hasbro is expected to be released in fall 2024. My DN Sabine helmet says made in Mexico. I don't know if any of the other DN products were made in Mexico, but I am not aware of any. I certainly could be wrong, but I suspect the Sabine helmet and helmets previously made in the US are being moved overseas. The Last Jedi Praetorian Guard helmet is also sold out. In one of the interview videos Mark mentioned that the US facility doesn't have the capacity to produce the helmets fast enough for filling the orders.

I think you misunderstood what I was getting at. If DN is going to release more of the Sabine helmets, it would be best to do it before the Hasbro helmet releases because if people start picking them up, they may feel content with it, especially with it being about $500 less. That could hurt sales for DN. I realize the Hasbro helmets aren't at the same level of quality as a fiberglass helmet, but I know a lot of collectors that are perfectly content with the Hasbro versions.
 
I think you misunderstood what I was getting at. If DN is going to release more of the Sabine helmets, it would be best to do it before the Hasbro helmet releases because if people start picking them up, they may feel content with it, especially with it being about $500 less. That could hurt sales for DN. I realize the Hasbro helmets aren't at the same level of quality as a fiberglass helmet, but I know a lot of collectors that are perfectly content with the Hasbro versions.
Yes, I misread your post. I would think DN and/or efx have an Ahsoka series Sabine helmet in the works. It seems like a no brainer to make. Hopefully efx will have some of the lightsabers as well.

The photos of the Black Series helmet look good, but not totally accurate. It will certainly be an excellent value. For many it will be good enough for the price.
 
Perfect example of what I was mentioning... On another site I posted up the link to the DN Patrol Trooper helmet. A buddy saw it and commented that he hopes Hasbro puts one out. He'd order it immediately. He's not even considering the DN version. He's completely content with the plastic helmet.

I tend to do a mix. I have all but one Hasbro Black Series helmet. That one being the Imperial Incinerator Trooper as I was very unhappy with the end result of the weathering. But I also have a number of DN, Anovos, MR and EFX helmets.
 
Maybe it's because DN is not showing it on a person, but the face covering seems way too short to me. It doesn't look like it would lay over the shoulders correctly. Also, the face covering is a different color than the helmet. I'm not seeing that so much in the screenshot.

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The way DN has it displayed it reminds me of a Pacman ghost.

What gets me (and I know there are profit margins and LFL licensing costs), is that the ST helmet is ~ $15 in parts... half of it is FLEXIBLE VINYL SHEETING. It can be assembled in 15 to 20 minutes by hand. They still charge $400 for it.

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What gets me (and I know there are profit margins and LFL licensing costs), is that the ST helmet is ~ $15 in parts... half of it is FLEXIBLE VINYL SHEETING. It can be assembled in 15 to 20 minutes by hand. They still charge $400 for it.

Yeah. I was having a bit of an issue with that one too. That has got to be one of the easiest Star Wars helmets to fabricate on your own.
 
What gets me (and I know there are profit margins and LFL licensing costs), is that the ST helmet is ~ $15 in parts... half of it is FLEXIBLE VINYL SHEETING. It can be assembled in 15 to 20 minutes by hand. They still charge $400 for it.
I think you are way under estimating the expenses in making the TK helmets. Yes, the material is cheap. I'm confident that it takes more than 15 - 20 minutes to vacuform the parts, trim the parts, assemble the helmet, apply paint/decals, and pack the items for shipment. On top of that there is overhead for things like running the company, paying the license, creating the models/bucks/molds, etc. Even vendors that run smaller shops and aren't licensed by Lucasfilm charge around $300 for a finished TK helmet.

I imaging Hasbro has very different economies of scale with their factories and the end products are very different even though they are both helmets so comparing BS helmets to helmets from collectible/replica vendors isn't comparing apples to apples. The Hasbro manufacturing process is most likely much more automated. We have seen plenty of examples where a Fett or Bo helmet was misaligned when some of the paint was applied.
 
I think you are way under estimating the expenses in making the TK helmets. Yes, the material is cheap. I'm confident that it takes more than 15 - 20 minutes to vacuform the parts, trim the parts, assemble the helmet, apply paint/decals, and pack the items for shipment. On top of that there is overhead for things like running the company, paying the license, creating the models/bucks/molds, etc. Even vendors that run smaller shops and aren't licensed by Lucasfilm charge around $300 for a finished TK helmet.

I imaging Hasbro has very different economies of scale with their factories and the end products are very different even though they are both helmets so comparing BS helmets to helmets from collectible/replica vendors isn't comparing apples to apples. The Hasbro manufacturing process is most likely much more automated. We have seen plenty of examples where a Fett or Bo helmet was misaligned when some of the paint was applied.
Believe me, I understand your point. And I know they’re not making tens of thousands of these, like the Hasbro black series. So the economy of scale is not the same. Plus, they’re not taking advantage of the cheap Asian labor market where workers are paid minimal compared to workers in the western world. However:

1) they charge separate $50 for shipping and handling, so that’s extra expense for $450 total
2) they charge the same $400 + $50 shipping price for a fully assembled TK standard storm trooper helmet, which has many more plastic pieces and complexity, and no plastic vinyl sheet.
3) they charge $400 plus $50 shipping for the standard First Order trooper helmet (I think I paid $250 for mine when the Force Awakens was released)
4) they charge $350 plus $50 shipping for a pre-order blank rebel pilot helmet
5) I don’t think they have just one buck mold to vacuform the snow trooper helmet dome. My guess is they have a few, and they’re using large sheets to pull two or three domes at a time on the vacuform table.
6) there are only two plastic pieces that I can see, the dome and it’s attached back plate, and the goggles section. Those are being trimmed down with an X-Acto knife or rotary tool I’m sure, and then sanded smooth. The vinyl sheet may be hand cut from a pattern, but could also be die cut in the correct shapes in large batches. The dome, the goggles, the rear section of vinyl sheet, and the front face section of the sheet, plus the green plastic for the lens. Five main pieces, correct?
7) there appears to be no paint or vinyl decals needed for this helmet.

My point is, the basic snowtrooper helmet is probably the simplest and least expensive helmet to manufacture and assemble that they offer. Yet they are charging the same amount that they do for more complex helmets. This would be the perfect kit to sell for $200 bucks, do it yourself. In fact, Anovos offered the kit…
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Believe me, I understand your point. And I know they’re not making tens of thousands of
these, like the Hasbro black series. So the economy of scale is not the same. Plus, they’re not taking advantage of the cheap Asian labor market where workers are paid minimal compared to workers in the western world. However:

1) they charge separate $50 for shipping and handling, so that’s extra expense for $450 total
2) they charge the same $400 + $50 shipping price for a fully assembled TK standard storm trooper helmet, which has many more plastic pieces and complexity, and no plastic vinyl sheet.
3) they charge $400 plus $50 shipping for the standard First Order trooper helmet (I think I paid $250 for mine when the Force Awakens was released)
4) they charge $350 plus $50 shipping for a pre-order blank rebel pilot helmet
5) I don’t think they have just one buck mold to vacuform the snow trooper helmet dome. My guess is they have a few, and they’re using large sheets to pull two or three domes at a time on the vacuform table.
6) there are only two plastic pieces that I can see, the dome and it’s attached back plate, and the goggles section. Those are being trimmed down with an X-Acto knife or rotary tool I’m sure, and then sanded smooth. The vinyl sheet may be hand cut from a pattern, but could also be die cut in the correct shapes in large batches. The dome, the goggles, the rear section of vinyl sheet, and the front face section of the sheet, plus the green plastic for the lens. Five main pieces, correct?
7) there appears to be no paint or vinyl decals needed for this helmet.

My point is, this is probably the simplest and least expensive helmet to manufacture and assemble that they offer. Yet they are charging the same amount that they do for more complex helmets. This would be the perfect kit to sell for $200 bucks, do it yourself. In fact, Anovos offered the kit…
Sorry, I thought you meant stormtrooper, not snowtrooper. The flexible vinyl sheeting should have made me think of the snowtrooper. I agree that should be cheaper than some of the other helmets that require more parts/labor.
 
Does anyone know if this is the same kit from Anovos. I have two sets of the Anovos versions and love them. I do not troop in them. They are simply on display as a Stormtrooper and Sandtrooper. Back then the helmet, neck seal, gloves and under suit came with it. The only thing missing was the boots and weapon of choice. It's still tempting to get another one.

I have heard from members of the 501st that the Anovos armor tends to crack easily. Since I don't troop with it, I don't know if this is true or not.

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