Deagostini Falcon. Anyone seen this?

Gary Weaver II said:
I'm thinking abuut jumping into the Falcon kit, but had a couple questions.

Does anyone know for sure if they will be offering a full kit once the subscriptions have run their course?

Or - if someone were wanting out of their subscription or had a second, can you contact Deagostini and start a new subscription at a certain point in the issues run?

Many thanks for any help you can give.
-Gary
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Gary,

I subscribed on the 14th of Oct and paid for month one when I subscribed, I then contacted customer support and had them ship me months two through eight, so yes you can start your subscription at any time ask ask them to ship all the months that are available.

I have the option of suspending my subscription at any time and in the future re-starting at the point I left off.

Since this is a project that none of the future issues have been produced yet, and only become available the month they are to be shipped, if in 15 more months all the issues have been produced, you could start a new subscription and then ask them to ship all the back issues. If this is a successful sales for DeAgostini, there would be no incentive for them to sell the entire kit as a complete kit, they are primarily publishers that work off monthly subscriptions sales, pushing their printing. You could ask them to ship you all 25 months at the same time, when all the subscribers have gotten their full 25 months, but they will always sell the kit in monthly packages for their magazines. The pieces of the model included with each month is only a small portion of the cost of making the monthly "package" they actually send. The four "books" included represent the majority of their costs.
 
Does anyone have an extra crescent cockpit control they can get rid of? I lost one of mine in my move and can't find it anywhere. Other then making a mold and casting the one I did find in resin, it would be nice to just have another without having to go thru that hassle. Anyone?

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Gary Weaver II said:
I'm thinking abuut jumping into the Falcon kit, but had a couple questions.

Does anyone know for sure if they will be offering a full kit once the subscriptions have run their course?

Or - if someone were wanting out of their subscription or had a second, can you contact Deagostini and start a new subscription at a certion point in the issues run?

Many thanks for any help you can give.
-Gary
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I do know they WILL offer the full kit once all the issues are produced, but not sure just how long afterward. As for picking up where you leave off, I'm not sure.
 
Hi LrdSatyr8.
Is it the the black arch from issue 6 that your are looking for??
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Ok, Now I see the one you're talking about. The ones part of issue 3.

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I do have an extra pair I wont use. If you're interested, PM me.
 
Also, I've made some more progress, (slow as it is) on my scratchbuilt nav seat. Arm rest mounts are still a work in progress, and I may further refine the headrest. It's not perfect, but I think it's within the realm of "close enough" for this build at this point.

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After I get a little bit more done on it, I'll set it up for casting. First time on that, so hopefully it'll survive the process.
 
FlyingBrickyard said:
Also, I've made some more progress, (slow as it is) on my scratchbuilt nav seat. Arm rest mounts are still a work in progress, and I may further refine the headrest. It's not perfect, but I think it's within the realm of "close enough" for this build at this point.

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After I get a little bit more done on it, I'll set it up for casting. First time on that, so hopefully it'll survive the process.
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With the amount of undercuts on that you're going to have to at least go with a 2-part mold. Looks good though!! Keep at it!
 
Thanks.

I was originally going to try for a simple block mold and just do it in half a dozen parts, but it hit a point where I just couldn't see making that work well without going to a 2 part. That's when I decided to just assemble the thing into what it is there. I plan to leave off the armrests themselves and just add them to each cast part afterward, and while it's not ideal, I'll probably just cast it as the left and right halves, split vertically.

It's all kind of new territory for me, since this is the most serious scratchbuilding I've really done to date. Everything else I've done prior to this was much simpler or less detailed. So even if things go horribly wrong during the final stages, at least I've learned a bit and refined my skills. (But I do hope it all goes to plan).
 
Well I am going to have to apologize to all the forum members that were complaining about top panels TP-1 & TP-3 for the DeAgostini Falcon. When the problem was identified and complaints were being posted, my first thought was how petty everyone was being, your not even going to notice the error. Then I started seeing some of the efforts to correct the error, and I even tried to make repairs myself. After a half heart'd attempt to make the repairs, I went online and ordered the almost correct panels from France.
They arrived yesterday and after making the direct comparison myself, I do agree that DeAgostini does need to replace the incorrect part, and at a minimum offer the re-popped parts for sale on-line in the UK & US. Ethically, since they have already sold the correct part to other countries and not to the UK and USA, they should replace them before the end of the subscription run. Looking at them side be side, there is a noticeable difference that now I would never accept, neither should anybody else. There is really nothing that could be done legally, but if DeAgostini doesn't do anything short of offering the corrected parts, our community should shout out very loud about this in every forum and talk about it ethically. They already have tooled the fix, now offer it to everybody, one way or another.

Actually they should be offering in the US, every weekly back issue on-line for those of us that want to customize and risk "messing up" some of the individual parts. we in the US are forced to pay outrageous postage costs to buy individual issues on-line through eBay, and it will be months before France catches up with the UK & US. I would like extra parts out of issues 11 & 12, but don't want to buy a full month (4 full issues) to get them.

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Supercoolin said:
Well I am going to have to apologize to all the forum members that were complaining about top panels TP-1 & TP-3 for the DeAgostini Falcon. When the problem was identified and complaints were being posted, my first thought was how petty everyone was being, your not even going to notice the error. Then I started seeing some of the efforts to correct the error, and I even tried to make repairs myself. After a half heart'd attempt to make the repairs, I went online and ordered the almost correct panels from France.
They arrived yesterday and after making the direct comparison myself, I do agree that DeAgostini does need to replace the incorrect part, and at a minimum offer the re-popped parts for sale on-line in the UK & US. Ethically, since they have already sold the correct part to other countries and not to the UK and USA, they should replace them before the end of the subscription run. Looking at them side be side, there is a noticeable difference that now I would never accept, neither should anybody else. There is really nothing that could be done legally, but if DeAgostini doesn't do anything short of offering the corrected parts, our community should shout out very loud about this in every forum and talk about it ethically. They already have tooled the fix, now offer it to everybody, one way or another.

Actually they should be offering in the US, every weekly back issue on-line for those of us that want to customize and risk "messing up" some of the individual parts. we in the US are forced to pay outrageous postage costs to buy individual issues on-line through eBay, and it will be months before France catches up with the UK & US. I would like extra parts out of issues 11 & 12, but don't want to buy a full month (4 full issues) to get them.

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Maybe you can take a pic with both side by side facing the same way???

I have no idea what the problem is?? I guess I missed the discussion on this piece.

Thanks

Tom
 
I've heard rumors that when the complete kit run is done, they will be offering replacement/upgrade parts either free to those who subscribed, or as a separate package. Not sure, but it's just a rumor right now!
 
Tom1971 said:
Maybe you can take a pic with both side by side facing the same way???

I have no idea what the problem is?? I guess I missed the discussion on this piece.

Thanks

Tom
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Look at the top edge of the side plates. On the top example they are rebated approximately .7mm from the corner edge. On the bottom example (original issued parts in the UK/US) they are flush to the edge.

It is a minor thing, but it's one of those things that "once you see it, you can't unsee it".

Even the non-UK/US parts still have problems though. The back ends aren't rebated and are lacking the notched cutouts, and none of the panels are notched along the bottom edge. At least the back ends are easily corrected since the edges are straight and it's easy to access them.

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You can see the top edges in these examples are incorrect. Since I'd also obtained the replacements from France I repurposed the original parts as test articles, and this method of correction was the first thing I subjected them to.
 
Tom1971 said:
Maybe you can take a pic with both side by side facing the same way???

I have no idea what the problem is?? I guess I missed the discussion on this piece.

Thanks

Tom
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Tom there is no separation of the armor panels on the sides. The edges of the panels are flush rather then set back 1.0-1.5mm.

TP-1 & TP-3 Separation.jpg
 
Tom1971 said:
Thanks for posting. I see what you mean now.

I find I am having trouble articulating my thoughts on this particular problem. A rarity for me.

Thanks

Tom
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It might be easier to stick TP-01 & TP-02 together and then compare them to BP-01 where the sides meet the top. You will really see the difference, the amour plates on the TP panel sides DO NOT look like they are separated from the hull like the BP panel where the sides meet the top intersection. Once you see the difference, although very hard to pick up, then you have a tendency to look at it. At least that is what happen to me and so I ordered issues 1 & 3 from France. It cost $27.52 total to have those issues shipped to Las Vegas. I took exactly 1 week from order to arrival. You get the entire issue and all parts and french versions of the magazines.
 
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