D.C.'s Supergirl (tv series)

[KrangPrime]

'stranger from another world...'

kat issues aside,

to me this is another one that felt like it nailed the tone right. no real complaints about this one.

I guess mrs.martian won't be white if she comes around this time.

Hank really won me over in this one too. I felt more manhunter than boring human detective.
I can't help but wonder if the writer is a ninja turtles fan of the 4kids series.
Raphaels line of 'peachy' in a sewer scene kind of made a return.



well see what the next few episodes bring.

 

[Fawbish]

i'm of the opposite......I think the writing staff needs to be fired, and they need to bring in actual fans of the character and her universe.
to me, the pilot episode was a mess.....and only one or two episodes have really felt like 'they got it down and understand'. the one where kat figured it all out was a good example...(even with the kat speech on her white male laywer included). but the rest of them.....the episode with general lane could have been good if they found a great actor to play general lane. he kind of bill murray phoned in the performance and made the character boring.

the Lane character makes it one too many and she doesn't really add anything to the show or the dynamic.

Jimmy wasn't really needed for this show at all....other than to add in a superman element. and if you think supergirl is powerful enough to stand on her own in her own show, do you really need a superman element at all? it should have been in the pilot, and that was it. save him for sweeps if you want to bring him in. the instant messaging thing with clark is especially goofy.

I agree that this show gets in it's own way. I WANT To like it, but there are just little things that take you out of it instantly.....and as someone else said, bringing in real world names and figures does that as well.. When Flash is on it's ball, I can't WAIT till next week. with this series..it's a chore to get through the episodes in one sitting. and it's a shame, because mellisa makes a GREAT supergirl.


Arrow just looks too dark and brooding to bother with (and when I think of arrow, I don't think of dark and brooding. I think of Justice Leauge CN Arrow). Leauge of Tommorow is just too many characters thrown in together and just too much. Gotham......I never even bothered with that. THe villains are only as good as batman makes them, and vice versa. when it's just cops after them, it looses something.

it's a shame. effects have finally caught up where a good super hero show can be done almost to movie quality on a weekly basis.

My feelings on Supergirl pretty much summed up here. Nice to pop into a thread and agree on it!

However. Don't let some assumptions about Arrow, LOT and Gotham let you miss out on some good DC based programming chief.

Arrow - Seasons 1 is great and Season 2 is excellent. Season 3 drops off a bit, and 4 is up and down but still entertaining (better than Supergirl, but still with that slight annoyance of plot issues etc)

Legends of Tomorrow - almost the perfect way to actually smash an ensemble superhero show onto our screens - I drop my "believe it" meter a little and I get my comic head on when I watch this, and it really allows me to enjoy it for what it is. Genuine fun with some fairly good emotional beats.

Gotham - Season 1 was a bit of up and down. Some great moments, overall, in my opinion stronger than Supergirl apart from a few episodes that get that same plot problem. But some good twists over the season, ending with a great moment. Season 2 started off amazing, and dropped to good after a few episodes. I'm eagerly awaiting the second half of season 2 which I didnt think I would be when I first started. It really does grow on you. Some of the individual characters are great - Penguin, Edward Nigma, and young Bruce are developing really quite well, especially in season 2 - bruce is starting to harden up and become more calculating and cold. Jim Gordon started out unfortunately just like Jim gordon but without the moustache! So character development is difficult for him.

 

[Treadwell]

I am getting really tired of the office politics subplots. I'm actually enjoying Calista Flockhart's performance, but the subject matter bores me. I don't care about Kara's desk job. At all.

 

[Cephus]

I am getting really tired of the office politics subplots. I'm actually enjoying Calista Flockhart's performance, but the subject matter bores me. I don't care about Kara's desk job. At all.

I don't care about it either. In fact, I was hoping, following the most recent episode, that Kara would have gotten fired and replaced and we wouldn't have to deal with any of it anymore.

 

[KrangPrime]

i'm tired of the stupid love triangle crap angle. poor wyn is stuck in the friend zone while kara is ignoring the obvious choice and going after the hunk with a girlfriend ;o).

 

[Cephus]

i'm tired of the stupid love triangle crap angle. poor wyn is stuck in the friend zone while kara is ignoring the obvious choice and going after the hunk with a girlfriend ;o).

Or Cat's son, or any of the other guest stars that show up. I don't really care about Kara's love life. That's not why I'm watching the show. Shippers make me want to punch them in their stupid mouths.

 

[AJTaliesen]

I've kind of just accepted it as a Xena/hercules style of stupid camp at this point, even though as recently as a week ago i was still thinking that it had a chance to break away from that mold. I'm starting to think that they dont WANT to be more than a Xena style cartoony show.

Makes me enjoy it a lot more. I can just shut off my brain and enjoy watching likeable actors take on bad guys.


But it does make me wish that someone would someday make a real attempt at a Supergirl show. I get the feeling some of the cast of this one think they are in a serious show. But the writers are definitely not on board with that. They are writing a live-action cartoon, pure and simple.

I can definitely enjoy that, and I am. But I do wish for more.

 

[The Mad Professor]

Anyone else see the blatant nod to the 1984 Supergirl movie in tonight's episode?


That device that Non used to bring back Indigo's body was the Omegahedron.

 

[DuneMuadDib]

I really want to like this show, but it's so hard sometimes. I'm sick to death of love triangles or quadrangles or dodecahedrons. I don't give a crap about Catco or the DEO. For as much girl power as the show tries to be I think it really undercuts that idea when Superman is established as a solo hero and Supergirl needs the help of her friend zoned hacker and a super-secret government agency as well as an alien even more powerful than her to save the day. It's also really weird that they can't make up their mind if they want to establish her credentials separate from Superman or strain something as they wink and nod at her more well-known cousin. At least they're not stumbling over themselves to awkwardly avoid referring to him by name any more.

I'm certain that this show has a higher budget than any of the CW shows, so why do those ones not feel as cheap? Also, can we please ditch the DEO and just make it a buddy comedy with Supergirl and Martian Manhunter? He's completely wasted running government secret ops.

 

[cboath]

Part of that was answered last night. She *could* do it alone, she just enjoys working with a team better.

As for catco, when's the last time they did superman without Lois, Perry, Jimmy, and the planet? Uh? Never? Superman may not have had a 'team' for fighting for justice, but it's a choice made here for the time being. They also have a legion of Krytonians in the city as well. So, you really expect a 23 year old to take on 20 or so at once with no support? You do realize it could be part of a larger plan that she's gotta learn the ropes and will eventually be on her own?

 

[Cephus]

Part of that was answered last night. She *could* do it alone, she just enjoys working with a team better.

That's not what I took away from it. National City almost got nuked because she wasn't on a team. Working alone didn't work out well for any of them.

But one thing I was thinking about last night, this is a problem with a shared universe because when a huge threat comes along, like the most dangerous genocidal criminal from Krypton shows up, anyone with half a clue would call in the cavalry. If it was a truly shared universe, Flash would have shown up. Arrow would have shown up. Heck, Superman would have shown up. We know why they didn't of course, but realistically, they absolutely would have. These shows would be crossing over all the time because these threats are so huge and could potentially affect so many people, it makes no sense that they don't. So you have to make excuses why they don't, or pretend that there has to be a reason other than "television".

 

[The Mad Professor]

That's not what I took away from it. National City almost got nuked because she wasn't on a team. Working alone didn't work out well for any of them.

But one thing I was thinking about last night, this is a problem with a shared universe because when a huge threat comes along, like the most dangerous genocidal criminal from Krypton shows up, anyone with half a clue would call in the cavalry. If it was a truly shared universe, Flash would have shown up. Arrow would have shown up. Heck, Superman would have shown up. We know why they didn't of course, but realistically, they absolutely would have. These shows would be crossing over all the time because these threats are so huge and could potentially affect so many people, it makes no sense that they don't. So you have to make excuses why they don't, or pretend that there has to be a reason other than "television".

Well, Superman figures that she can handle it, as she has proven so far, even if she's struggling to do so. Plus, she flat out told him to stay away and let her do it herself, and if she really needed him, she would call.

As to Flash and Arrow not crossing over or coming for a visit, there's that pesky thing called interdimensional travel that they have to stumble upon and/or work out before it can happen.

 

[cboath]

They don't have much time to figure it out since Flash will be on supergirl this season.

 

[The Mad Professor]

They don't have much time to figure it out since Flash will be on supergirl this season.

That's why I put "stumble upon" in there as well. Accidents do happen, after all.

 

[Treadwell]

"I don't kill people"? Didn't she just snap the neck of someone a week or two ago? Or am I thinking of Flash or something, LOL

 

[Treadwell]

Hey, was that one of the Cat People/BTTF cat sculptures painted pink in Catco?

Character-has-secret-and-it's-killing-them-not-to-be-able-to-tell stories.... yawn.

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the "Anonymous" clone has all this capability but needs CatCo to leak info for them? When they could easily get someone else to, and then it goes viral anyway? mmkay.

 

[Cephus]

"I don't kill people"? Didn't she just snap the neck of someone a week or two ago? Or am I thinking of Flash or something, LOL

I think the whole "I don't kill" thing in comic shows is kind of ridiculous anyhow. I mean, how long ago was it that Oliver Queen was going to stop killing, but he's flinging arrows at people left and right, Diggle is firing a machine gun like it's going out of style, are we supposed to think all they make are flesh wounds?

 

[Solo4114]

I think the whole "I don't kill" thing in comic shows is kind of ridiculous anyhow. I mean, how long ago was it that Oliver Queen was going to stop killing, but he's flinging arrows at people left and right, Diggle is firing a machine gun like it's going out of style, are we supposed to think all they make are flesh wounds?

I think they go back and forth about that. Particularly given the enemies that they face on Arrow (chiefly the League and the Ghosts who are like a league offshoot), I think they've relaxed the "I don't kill" position. I think Oliver tries NOT to kill, where possible, and he certainly isn't actively hunting people down and executing them because they have "Failed this city!" but I think they're just not quite as strict on the "no killing" thing these days. Basically, the mindset seems more like a (good) cop: they'll use lethal force where necessary, but try to disable wherever possible. Diggle, though, I got nothin'. His character seems one of the worst defined. He's a dude with a helmet (and a fairly useless one at that) and a gun. He needs some better gear. A suit, a better helmet, weapons of some kind, something.

Anyway, back to Supergirl. I think the theory right now is that she exists in a different Earth (Earth-3? Earth-S?) than the Flash and Green Arrow. Actually, it might make sense if, for example, her "Earth-S" is where the "S" stands for "Super." Like, her earth has the Kryptonians, whereas maybe in Flash/Green Arrow's Earth-1, Krypton didn't explode, so the Kryptonians never came to Earth.

I guess we'll see, though.

 

[Laspector]

I'm pretty sure she mentioned, in one of the earlier episodes, that the "S" was a Kryptonian symbol for something else. I don't remember if she said it stood for "hope" like in MOS, but I'm pretty sure she did say something about it.

 

[CessnaDriver]

I'm pretty sure she mentioned, in one of the earlier episodes, that the "S" was a Kryptonian symbol for something else. I don't remember if she said it stood for "hope" like in MOS, but I'm pretty sure she did say something about it.

Yes she did.
Family coat of arms or similar.