Custom Saber Shop - anyone know anything about them?

[DevilGuy]

I found this site via members of TCSS, I've done alot of business with them over the last year and Tim is both professional and reliable, as well as timely.

As to accusation of unethical business practices, I'd warn that those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

 

[KramStaar]

I recently purchased a Graflex clamp from them. Especially quick turnaround on an order to Australia, perfectly packaged and while not 100% accurate, the piece was solid, well constructed and certainly good enough quality for what I needed.

I would go back without hesitation....

 

[hyperdyne]

More FSM nonsense by Mr. 3 posts

lollollollol:lol

 

[Delmustator]

Crystal Focus is THE BEST sound card for a lightsaber available PERIOD as far as I'm concerned.

I may be new to The RPF but I'm not new to the prop scene. I have never had any issues with Tim @ TCSS, Ultra, or Erv. Until I do, I have nothing negative to say (not that I would anyway).

Oh and I love the CFs in my lightsabers too....

 

[Do-Clo]

I have dealt with the custom saber shop for a few years, I have never had a problem with them.

 

[Son of Skywalker]

I may be new here but I'm definitely not new to led/luxeon sabers - TCSS is a cornerstone in the custom build saber world.

 

[Darth Raijlin]

Tim is a great person and provides some awesome products. You can't go wrong with the TCSS. Sometimes the shipping might seem a bit steep, but then shipping costs everywhere seem to have risen over the past half a year or so. :lol

 

[DevilGuy]

More FSM nonsense by Mr. 3 posts

lollollollol:lol

yes because the number of posts I've made on one particular prop forum is far more relevant to the conversation at hand than my actual point.

 

[hyperdyne]

Try being involved in prop forums for over 11 yrs. You gain the ability to smell the dogpiles a mile away and detect trolls from afar. :lol Case in point!

 

[DevilGuy]

Try being involved in prop forums for over 11 yrs. You gain the ability to smell the dogpiles a mile away and detect trolls from afar. :lol Case in point!

well if all you can come up with is "that guy is new! don't listen to him" I think you need to work on your argument.

TBH I haven't been around as long as many others, but I haven't said anything bad about you or your products, only warned that you may want to be a little more careful in what you say about other's.

Either way I see no reason to respect your postcount, # of posts != validity, it only shows persistence, and since you've shown me absolutely no respect I owe you nothing.

 

[hyperdyne]

So when you are a newbie and come into a forum telling other people to watch their words, did you expect proper treatment? :confused Oh sorry.

You clearly have an ulterior motive and/or agenda. So please, your rebuttal is not only transparent but laughable. You did say something about me, just in code. You know, read between the lines and all. You can continue to act dumb all you like, but its typically better if you drop the subterfuge and just move on...

 

[987654321a]

Try being involved in prop forums for over 11 yrs. You gain the ability to smell the dogpiles a mile away and detect trolls from afar. :lol Case in point!

Jim, No mean to sound disrespectful, but I have had enough of this crap. Seriously. This is just a damn hobby. Why should there be so much drama over some stupid lightsabers. I have a few lightsabers with parts from TCSS... Yes, I highly recomend them. There is nothing fraudulent about what Tim, Alex, and Irvin do..So leave them the hell alone. I wanted to pm you about this but I thought this should be made public. Im getting more pissed....

Jim, remember that this is a hobby! The person that can get in the most trouble would be in fact you. Lucas can just one day ban the making of sound boards. Your butt will be the first to be hit hard. You, Tim, Alex, Irvin, etc are making profit on something that none of you came up with. No matter how custom a lightsaber is...its still a lightsaber. The sooner you all get that through your head, the sooner this whole thing will end.

Most sabersmiths are just doing this for profit, or side income. Why do you feel the need to have to ruin that. Remember the more you get technical and serious with this HOBBY, the more you are stirring the pot of potentially having Lucas shut down all these projects.

 

[hyperdyne]

There is nothing fraudulent about what Tim, Alex, and Irvin do..So leave them the hell alone.

You state this as fact? Are you kidding me?? :confused I didnt know you were a patent lawyer.

Yes, there is a great deal wrong (legally) with what these guys are doing. Making and selling illegal goods. You can attempt to spin this anyway you like, they are criminally infringing on my IP. Sorry, I didnt write the laws. But I will protect my IP from the morally and ethically bankrupt.

I do this as a hobby, but when businesses like ultra and erv come in and thumb their nose at a hobbyist to make a buck - expect people to say something. Plus you have it all wrong, I do this on the side and for fun - the people you defend do it pretty much full time to put food on their table. So your argument doesnt hold any water. If anyone is shining a legal spotlight on themselves, its the businesses you support.

If you are going to play chicken little, I suggest you look somewhere else. It isnt me in legal peril - unless in your world the criminals sue the victims. I do plenty of work for LFL and have a good relationship with them.

You guys come in here and continually defend businesses who harbor recasters and profit off other people's work. That is typically frowned upon in the prop community, but the saber world continues to operate with impunity. They dont care about recasting or any of that stuff, but you will find people in these parts have a different, more civilized, opinion on the matter.

So, with no disrespect, I have a hard time taking your words without a huge block of salt lick.

 

[GATORBAIT9696]

So you have a lawsuit against these companies? A yes or no will do, please do not drag me through the mud-- I am in the market for one. If you don't and it really is infringement then you need to sue and issue the C&D an be done with it. That way we will all be clear on the issue. No chest pounding required, and it will end all of these hostilities.

 

[Aluke123]

So you have a lawsuit against these companies? A yes or no will do, please do not drag me through the mud-- I am in the market for one. If you don't and it really is infringement then you need to sue and issue the C&D an be done with it. That way we will all be clear on the issue. No chest pounding required, and it will end all of these hostilities.

Amen! VeROing custom sabers only hurts the customers, not the actual businesses. If you truly thing that your IP is in jeopardy, do something about it! All the fighting is tearing the hobby apart, quite literally. Just look on FX Sabers, sabersmiths are dropping out of the hobby left and right. We need a quick end to all this.

My 2 cents

 

[DevilGuy]

You state this as fact? Are you kidding me?? :confused I didnt know you were a patent lawyer.

Yes, there is a great deal wrong (legally) with what these guys are doing. Making and selling illegal goods. You can attempt to spin this anyway you like, they are criminally infringing on my IP. Sorry, I didnt write the laws. But I will protect my IP from the morally and ethically bankrupt.

I do this as a hobby, but when businesses like ultra and erv come in and thumb their nose at a hobbyist to make a buck - expect people to say something. Plus you have it all wrong, I do this on the side and for fun - the people you defend do it pretty much full time to put food on their table. So your argument doesnt hold any water. If anyone is shining a legal spotlight on themselves, its the businesses you support.

If you are going to play chicken little, I suggest you look somewhere else. It isnt me in legal peril - unless in your world the criminals sue the victims. I do plenty of work for LFL and have a good relationship with them.

You guys come in here and continually defend businesses who harbor recasters and profit off other people's work. That is typically frowned upon in the prop community, but the saber world continues to operate with impunity. They dont care about recasting or any of that stuff, but you will find people in these parts have a different, more civilized, opinion on the matter.

So, with no disrespect, I have a hard time taking your words without a huge block of salt lick.

Wait a sec, if this is just a hobby to you why do you care who sells what? if someone wants to make a board that uses a different setup than yours what's it to you?

It's either a hobby, in which case you should be happy that it's become so varied and popular, or it's a business, and you need to stomp out the competition, which is it?

:confused

 

[987654321a]

Wait a sec, if this is just a hobby to you why do you care who sells what? if someone wants to make a board that uses a different setup than yours what's it to you?

It's either a hobby, in which case you should be happy that it's become so varied and popular, or it's a business, and you need to stomp out the competition, which is it?

:confused

I agree, a hobby means doing this for fun, not to piss on someone elses rain. I dont want this thread to get locked or anybody banned simply because we all need to step up against hyperdyne for being such a bad businessman, morally. Only in the sabersmithing business. Jim, your other stuff is great but you have got to stop acting like a child and grow the hell up already.

 

[GATORBAIT9696]

just reminds me what we learn in the military, K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Stupid ; If he does it right then this would all be over. Some people would not be happy but it all would be legal.

 

[GATORBAIT9696]

not choosing side or bashing, I do not want to buy from someone who is "recasting technology" and do not want to buy from someone who just doing everything but the right thing to stop it. that is why I asked my simple question above (about the lawsuit).

 

[DevilGuy]

not choosing side or bashing, I do not want to buy from someone who is "recasting technology" and do not want to buy from someone who just doing everything but the right thing to stop it. that is why I asked my simple question above (about the lawsuit).

well recasting is a bad analogy.

In recasting you obtain someone else's product then make molds of it and start selling copy's as your own, that's not what the guy's building soundboards are doing, what they're doing is starting from scratch making their own version, a better analogy would be two model makers making high accuracy replicas of the Millennium Falcon, of course they'll be similar, their models of the same thing, but no one cry's foul because it's two builders exercising their talents.

It's the same with the various saber cores, each shop started from scratch, of course certain technology's are common to all the boards, but the only way you could compare it to recasting is if someone copied someone else's PCB (printed circuit board) bought matching components and built carbon copy's of the boards and started selling them. This hasn't happened, all three are different use different programing and different circuit setups, the only thing that's even remotely similar is the output.