Can anyone identify this Stormtrooper Helmet?

[runnriottt]

And this TM is not spot on. There are far too many things different if set side by side to a TE2, and that is said to be second Gen. Other than the Fabled GINO, it is the closest you can get.

The TM is not spot on... Close, but not spot.

 

[Darth Sabre]

I've not seen ONE original fan sculpt trooper helmet besides the FX or it's derivatives.

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Here's at least 1 that I could find. http://www.therpf.com/showthread.php?t=55955&highlight=stormtrooper+sculpt

I know I saw another awhile back and can't find it right now.

Doug

 

[exoray]

I have No Bump on my helmet.

Well here is the picture you posted, with the brightness turned down and the contrast turned up so you are not effected by "white blindness" because of the lack of contrast, nothing else done to the photo except to adjust brightness and contrast to pop details, notice anything?

I think it's a pretty good bet that yours has the bump in question, maybe more subtle then others but I'm placing my money on it being there as evidenced by your own photo... Pass the humble pie...

And at this point I'm also going to go out on a limb and suggest that it might be there are many other helmets as well, just less subtle or hidden from obvious view due to a lack of contrast on the white finish...

 

[runnriottt]

No.. But I am waiting on a better camera. I know its whited out. Crap pic.:$

There is no bump. Not in feel, or in shadow. I will be taking better pics.
I have a flash light. Off I go...

 

[runnriottt]

Now all can see my Vocoder blunders... :$
Anyway, Thankfully no paint has ever touched the area in question.

Here are some better pics...

 

[exoray]

No..

I show you your own photo one you took showing an obvious reflection/shadowed area indicating a surface abnormality in the same general location as the bump in question and you can't see it? I guess Gino is spot on that no matter what you show someone they will deny it...

Anyone is free to take your posted photo and drop the brightness by about 50% and boost the contrast by about 50% and verify that I didn't doctor the photo in any way, that area just pops out...

 

[runnriottt]

I show you your own photo one you took showing an obvious reflection/shadowed area indicating a surface abnormality in the same general location as the bump in question and you can't see it? I guess Gino is spot on that no matter what you show someone they will deny it...

Anyone is free to take your posted photo and drop the brightness by about 50% and boost the contrast by about 50% and verify that I didn't doctor the photo in any way, that area just pops out...

Oh Good god. :rolleyes

I just took those. What the hell. Took a flash light trying to make a shadow. I cant get one. Hell, want me to send you this helmet, you take the shots?

Its not there. If it was I would come out and say it.

I am taking on GINO of all people. Trust me, I understand the scorn if proven wrong.

 

[exoray]

Here are some better pics...

The photos should be taken an nearly the same angle as Gino's reference, as light reflects and pops different things at different angles... Your new photos are straight on into a bright white gloss surface that isn't really objective as by nature it hides a lot... If you want to compare at least try and simulate the same shot...

 

[Qui-Gonzalez]

My crystal ball says the next line will read something like "If what I posted is not proof enough, nothing will be, so I am not taking more pics."

I could be wrong though.

 

[GINO]

I said it before, regardless whether the bump is there or not on YOUR helmet, it's insignificant when compared to the bird's eye shot.
That is the smoking gun evidence.
Anyone who doesn't feel that is 'smoking gun evidence' doesn't really understand the impossibility of getting a sculpt from scratch to match that exactly.

The fact that the bump does appear on some (earlier versions) only strengthens that conclusion. But is not by any means the basis of it.


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[runnriottt]

Fair enough.. I can try to get the same angle. I will print it and try again.

Birds eye view. Yesterday. Too much shadow I thought. But here they are...

TE2

TM

Together...

The only thing I could figure to do was put there noses to the wall so to speak. It is hard to line up a wonky uneven surface. I will listen to any suggestions though...

 

[Tim Allen]

I suggest snapping individual pictures of each helmet in the mirror. That might help a bit

 

[GINO]

Good suggestion!
Or even better yet, someone could take pics of one of my helmets, or TE, or TE2 along with pics of a TM and just flip them both horizontally in photoshop.
I think this would be VERY telling.


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[runnriottt]

OK...

 

[GINO]

Wow. Look at that. TM must have alien skills to be able to sculpt that good.

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[Tim Allen]

Im no Stormtrooper expert but as a sculpter I would def. say thats a carbon copy, or at least the face plate is.

 

[micdavis]

Wow. Look at that. TM must have alien skills to be able to sculpt that good.

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Seem to me he's got the same skills you have. Pouring material into others parts. :lol

 

[GINO]

Seem to me he's got the same skills you have. Pouring material into others parts. :lol

:lol

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[Veedox]

What I find humorous is the fact that Gino has literally been posting his attacks in 2 forums simultaneously seemingly every 15 minutes for over 2 days.

This has got to be the most nerdy waste of time I have ever witnessed.

Do ya just not have anything better to do Gino?


I swear, the Stormtrooper prop community has more a-holes in it than the US Congress.

 

[defstartrooper]

Those "bumps" are anything but obvious, you have to be looking for them and have specific lighting/ angles for them to show up otherwise they blend right in with the white helmet.

When I was sculpting my 300 helmet I used a small flashlight placed at angles to tell if I had any bump/lumps similar to what GINO is talking about

I did say obvious on the form not the helmet.
This bump would be pretty prominent on the form i really don't think it would be easily overlooked.
Vacuum forming always softens details and lines Gino knows this just as he knows there are a number of tiny bumps and pits that were present on the original forms which only show on the inside of the pulls because they aren't prominent enough to affect the outside.
Which to me begs the question how can someone who is deliberately looking for these tells and sanding and filling to erase them overlook this one ?
It's visible on the outside of a pull then it is inherently visible on the form the pull comes off,the forms not going to be shiney gloss white.

As for the birdseye view being impossible to replicate that is just nonsense there is an abundance of photographic regference available of trooper helmets and i've no doubt TM had other helmets he could of used as reference too and which he could view from every angle possible.
It's simply not the impossibility that Gino says it is for a competant sculptor.

I'm not saying Gino is right or wrong about it being recast, just that the evidence shown isn't enough.