Bandai release schedule

Am I disappointed Bandai didn't make a huge SD? Sure, but I understand why they might not have.

As someone mentioned above and if I recall, did Revell not sue Bandai over distribution rights since Revell reboxed the Zvezda for distribution in Europe and Bandai was rumored to rescale the Destroyer down from 1/2700 to 1/5000 so as to avoid a competing claus in the licensing contract? I know several years ago Hasbro sued Bandai over the pilot figures in their kits and they ended up only molding seated figures and not stand up ground crew figs any longer.

I have read that the Sequel Trilogy crashed and burned in Japan - and that ST kits were peg warming there in the primary Asian market - and the hobby is pretty much limited to 40-70 year olds here in the States, so why would we assume Bandai should make kits that their primary market is not interested in?

As much as I love their kits - and drool at the idea of a Bandai TIE Bomber, Tyderium, Razorcrest or Moff Gideon's cruiser - I think that their profit margins are not as big as we would assume in our market for those kits. Toss in the licensing costs and constant lawsuits from Revell over distribution claims - and Bandai might assert it is not within their financial interests and goals to retain the Star Wars license. I could not blame them for that decision. It would suck if that is anywhere near the case - but I will simply be grateful for what we have been blessed to buy and build from them while they were gracing us with these kits of excellence.
 
100% agree, Invar. I’ve suggested a few times that that this could be the end for Bandai’s SW license, and ppl get defensive. Thing is, we have zero access to their market data, only what we think could be true based on personal, anecdotal observations. I think the actual business data would be surprising, maybe even shocking vs what we think we know.
 
I have read that the Sequel Trilogy crashed and burned in Japan - and that ST kits were peg warming there in the primary Asian market - and the hobby is pretty much limited to 40-70 year olds here in the States, so why would we assume Bandai should make kits that their primary market is not interested in?

Given that, at least in my area, the ST kits are collecting dust on the shelves while all of the other kits have become impossible to find, it might be that they aren't doing so well over here, either. I think it's pretty fair to say that even a lot of people who liked the ST films still found the "new" ship designs to be rather uninspired.

How long did Fine Molds have the license? And didn't they stick mostly to well known vehicles?

It's almost like these companies have access to market research to help guide them.
 
I have talked to more than one Hobby Shop owner over the past few years that said the Bandai Star Wars kits just were not selling that much compared to other lines like Gundam.

I think for a while they did not really catch on here as quickly as expected. Like Hasbro, they were overextended. It also did not help that they were most likely fulfilling obligations to pump out stuff from the newer trilogy as a higher priority which no one was buying

Oddly enough, I think they are more popular now that supply has dwindled than they were initially. This year especially there seems to be an influx of new hobbyists.
 
Not sure if this was posted but this is from Revell Germany’s 2021 release catalog.

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Good for them. At least someone is making new kits. But god I do not trust them to get the scales correct.

They list the Tie as 1/65 but the tie they have now that is little bit bigger than Bandai's 1/72 even though it was listed as 1/110 when it was first released so who knows what we might get

I assume that tie will be the folding wings one.

Either way, I am guessing this is their existing tooling for the body with new foldable wings so 1/65 does sound about right

But again the ******* box scale nonsense. Would it have killed them to knock it back to 1/72 or bump up to 1/48

Their Slave-1 was not too bad for what it was and it was around 1/80 scale. They skimped on the wing details and some of the greeblies on the back, bit everything else was quite good so I am looking forward to their Razor Crest

Hopefully Bandai follows suit, but I am guessing if we got a Razor Crest from them it would be a 1/144 kit. At least it will pair nicely with their Slave-1
 
Not sure if this was posted but this is from Revell Germany’s 2021 release catalog.

Looks like Revell is going to be 'cooperation' with Bandai - meaning reboxing or private labelling the Bandai kits with their own label - same as they did for the Zvezda Star Destroyer. While that may be welcome news for those in Europe and in areas wanting the A-wing and Y-wing, look for the costs to be at least double what they were direct from Japan if you were able to score them from a seller on Amazon or direct from someone like Hobbylinc. So an initial $28 (US) kit would be about $45-$52 in a Revell box if my guesstimates on what the Zvezda ended up being private labeled via Revell.

Curious how this arrangement is going to work, or if it is simply a limited arrangement for Revell to package remaining stock Bandai already 'printed' in production runs.

Less enthusiastic for a Razorcrest on a Revell catalog rather than one Bandai was engineering and molding. But if that is all there will be in styrene - looks like that may be the only way to have such a kit.
 
"Bandai cannot produce large kits because houses in Japan are small"

Straw man. Nobody said "cannot".

It's obvious from what we can see that Bandai do not prioritize production of large kits as that's not where they make the bulk of their profits. They produce occasional large kits as special events, such as the PG Falcon and big Gundam robots. They're going to produce more of the latter since that's where the sales are.
 
Here's what I am not getting... For all that people decry the decreasing popularity of Star Wars, and that affecting model kit sales, for all that I keep hearing "big kits don't sell in their primary market", for all that I hear their primary market is Japan and not the US...

The PG Falcon sold out one production run, and they had to get another out, when I am pretty sure they hadn't initially intended to. And it was not cheap. B-Wings and Y-Wings are much harder to find these days. Even the oft-released X-Wings are fewer and pricey as heck. Without getting into quality assessments, the newer films aren't as iconic. I see lots of "Poe Dameron's X-Wing" kits sitting around -- TFA, TLJ Boosted, TROS orange-and-white. I see the odd TIE Striker, sometimes Darth Vader's TIE, but no TIE Fighters, and certainly no TIE Interceptors. The occasional First Order Special Forces TIE, but semi-frequently their standard TIEs. I have not seen their 1:144 Slave I anywhere, ever.

For some reason, companies seem to underestimate the appeal of certain craft and/or scales, while overestimating others. I find more 1:144 kits listed on Amazon and eBay, and, usually, for less of a price increase since release, than 1:72. And when a Slave I is listed, the most common is FineMolds' 1:72 AOTC/Jango version or Revell's box scale. Less frequently Bandai's 1:144, and, once in the last year, FineMolds' 1:72 Boba, for a lot. Just looking at the markets... The US has close to three times the population of Japan, and maybe a little over half the population of Europe. Bandai would be stupid to ignore their domestic market, but equally stupid to ignore the many times more customers elsewhere. I don't know what sorts of non-competition agreements they have to reach with other companies, but I'd argue that Bandai releasing a 1:72 Slave I would be nowhere near as large as their Falcon, and not competing with Revell's box-scale offering. People will buy the scale they want.

Even if it's 3-to-1 small domestic-appeal to larger international-appeal per year, that'd still be a not-unwise investment. They can look around and see what's still sitting on virtual store shelves as easily as I can. They can see what of their fellow-Japanese company's releases are still highly-sought-after on the secondary market. They can see people passing over 1:144 models and driving the price up on 1:72. They can see people ignoring box-scale kits in favor of scaled. They can see post-Disney items rusting unsold while OT and even PT items dwindle in availability and increase in price. They can see what garage kits are being offered of various craft and how frequently they're unavailable and sought after.

Bandai has been in businees for decades. Trust me, they know. They know the demand and the market and that they could release certain things, even as a limited edition, even only to the US market, and it'd still be printing money for them. I think their biggest misstep was the star destroyer. It was in an awkward size -- a little too big to be convenient for the space-limited, a little too small to compete with the Zvezda. The people who want big still have the latter as an option, even with all the up-detailing required. The people who want small will look at the Bandai and go "too big". Do I remember right that it's smaller than the old MPC of enduring re-pops? There are enough aftermarket mods for that one that, if I were to be in the market for a star destroyer kit, I'd go with an up-detailed MPC over a Bandai. But I also don't really care. Biggest Star Wars kit I want is a 1:72 ESB Falcon. And I cannot see how that hasn't been released. They already have more than half the tooling, the ANH was already designed in a way that facilitates the five-gear ESB lower as an option, and they have to know at least one run would sell through.
 
Japan and the Asian Market that is Bandai's main demographic for sales is not the same as North America's or Europe. Their tastes and preferences are not the same as ours.

We think a plastic model kit of a cup of ramen noodles is silly and stupid - but they sell gangbusters there in their prime market. We prefer bigger 1/48 to 1/72 scale kits - the Asian Market sells more of the business card sized mini-kits there. Then there is the COVID pandemic and all it's effects on the global supply chain.

Business exists to make money and profit - and efforts are directed towards that purpose. We do not know what effect the myriad lawsuits and license costs have cut into the profit margin of their kits to North America and Europe. We do not know what kind of legal limitations Lucasfilm and Disney are putting upon Bandai's distribution of Star Wars kits.

If Bandai's main market demographic would support 1/48 scale ships from the Star Wars line - and Disney granted them license to produce and sell them in their own market demographic - we would likely have such kits produced. However, if I had to guess - the larger market share of such kits are in North America and Europe and Bandai does not have an open license agreement to sell direct to our markets. Revell has that license I believe . I think that is why Bluefin became the Distributor for Bandai kits to North America in order to circumvent the limits on direct sales.

I am still very curious of this "kooperation" agreement with Revell for reboxing the Y-wing and A-wing kits. Is it to clear out already produced kits - or is Bandai experimenting with using Revell as a distributor of their kits to North America and the European markets rather than Bluefin?
 
Revell is reselling Bandai Star Wars kits for more than 1,5 years in Europe, already. And they're much cheaper than buying them from Japan.
You're a bit late to the party, INVAR. ;)
 
I am fairly certain that our speculation on WHY Bandai hasn't made more Star Wars kits is just that: Speculation. Bandai is a pretty big company, and the reasons could be things that we can't even imagine. If anyone has ever come across an interview with a bonafide Bandai executive delineating the reasons for the lack of new Star Wars kits, I'd be happy to see a link.

I am also fairly certain that lone voices won't make much difference, but maybe many voices would. That was why I posted an email address on the previous page. At this point, I am not choosey about what they make, as long as it is not something I have purchased from them three times. (Yes, I know you can never have too many X-Wings, but still...:)). I will purchase and buy any new ship/vehicle they make.

Does anyone know how to make a petition? Maybe that would help...
 
Maybe now that it's out of the bag that Revell is making a Razor Crest, Bandai will put theirs out now! Fingers crossed! Or at least a 1/48 Y-Wing.

SB
 
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