Red Squadron diorama

Millenniumf

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So I know the Bandai kit is technically more accurate, but I can't help but love the Finemolds X-wing just a little bit more, lol. The incredibly fine panel lines, no extra seams to putty, plus four options for decals give it a bit of an edge over the Bandai one. And the four decal options inspired me to start this project.

I'm working on making a Battle of Yavin diorama of all four X-wing options, and it's been such a blast from the past so far! I started out by painting the pilots. I am still disappointed that they only included decals for Luke and Biggs' helmets, but not Wedge and Garvin Dreis (Red Leader). So I had to resort to painting their helmets by hand. It's not the best paintwork, but it holds up well enough. I also used Luke's central red stripe for Wedge, whose helmet has a black stripe with yellow dashes, but who's going to know?

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I then assembled the cockpits, adding some solder for the hoses that are seen behind the pilots' shoulders. The targeting computers I cut down since I wasn't planning on modeling them extended. I then painted them according to reference photos, then gave them a wash in black and a drybrushing of silver. Then I glued the pilots in place.

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After assembling the laser cannons (leaving the barrels unglued so I could detach them) and drilling holes in the ends of the laser tips, I knolled the parts out on the workbench, because I needed to plan out which option parts to use for each pilot. This got interesting on the engine cans, because while the kit only provides one landing gear door option, the studio models for Luke and Red Leader have no raised ridge on them. So I used the ones sans ridge for the bottom engine cowlings, and cut some panel lines into them to indicate the seams for the landing gear doors.

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Work continued till I got all the major subassemblies built and ready for detailing. Since this diorama will feature lights, I had to add them to the engines before attaching them to the wings. I robbed the road wheels from a 1:72 tank model kit to use as LED holders, since they had details on them that could be seen when the lights are off. I routed the wires through, and then realized that I glued the flat inner wing parts in too early since now I had to carve a channel through them, glue the wires in, and then cover them with superglue for the filler.

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After the subassemblies were completed, I started to add extra detailing. I decided to replicate the styrene chip patterns on the studio models. This was trivial for Red Leader and Red Three, but Red Five and Red Two don't have great photo references, so I had to improvise a bit. I used the Moving Edition Bandai X-wing as a reference for Luke, since from what I can tell, Bandai did a fantastic job replicating the chip patterns on the hero filming miniature. Wedge's X-wing required that I reference a papercraft model kit, which had accurate details on it for Red 2. I also added some missing panel lines that I saw in references. Fun fact, it's abundantly clear that the guys at Finemolds referenced the Red 3 miniature for the details. The panel lines and chips almost perfectly match that miniature. Almost. There are a few inaccurate chips here and there, plus a few missing ones I needed to restore, but overall it's a decent replica of this ship. After the styrene chips were glued on, I added the missing sloped trailing edges to the nose cones of Red 1, 2, and 5 with sheet styrene, then added styrene rod to the trailing edges of the wings. I lost four of the greebles on the back of the wings, so I had to order another kit to replace them, but now I have another whole kit so I can make a fifth one later for a hangar diorama or something.

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After gluing all those tiny chips down, I had to sand them flatter. Using my dial calipers, I determined that the chips on the kit parts are .005" tall, while I used .010" styrene strip to make the chips on my models. So I had to sand them down so they'd match and be in scale with the ships.

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From there, I made the mounting points and electronic plugs for the models. I could have gone with simply stabbing the models onto brass tube and calling it a day like I normally do, but this time I wanted something dynamic. So I put the mounting points on the back ends of the models. I then drilled two holes for the electrical plugs in the bottom of the butt plates, inserted the plugs (which are circuit board interface pins), and then put the sockets from connectors on the other end of the pins before supergluing those in place. I then tied all the engine light wires together and soldered them to the sockets. On one of the X-wings - Luke's - one of the engines didn't light. I dunno where the wire broke, but somehow during construction I broke the positive lead on it. So I had to carefully break open the engine, thread another wire in, and rout it on the outside of the engine can and across the wing into the center of the assembly.

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Anyway, that's all I have now. I'm pretty much at the point where I can start painting these suckers. I still have a sheet of vinyl masks for the canopy, minus one mask I used back in like 2002. I'm planning on painting three of them with base colors and their canopies, then recycling one of the sets for the fourth ship and using regular masking tape for the canopy to keep it paint free while I paint additional panels that weren't included in the decal sheet.
 
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Great work on the pilots!

As accurate and nicely detailed as the Bandai kit is, I agree, the gaps caused by the molded in color snap fit design really caused problems with the fuselage. And combined with the exaggerated panel lines, the Bandai fuselage winds up looking a bit wonky compared to the simpler and finer panel lined Fine Molds
 
So I know the Bandai kit is technically more accurate, but I can't help but love the Finemolds X-wing just a little bit more, lol. The incredibly fine panel lines, no extra seams to putty, plus four options for decals give it a bit of an edge over the Bandai one. And the four decal options inspired me to start this project.

I'm working on making a Battle of Yavin diorama of all four X-wing options, and it's been such a blast from the past so far! I started out by painting the pilots. I am still disappointed that they only included decals for Luke and Biggs' helmets, but not Wedge and Garvin Dreis (Red Leader). So I had to resort to painting their helmets by hand. It's not the best paintwork, but it holds up well enough. I also used Luke's central red stripe for Wedge, whose helmet has a black stripe with yellow dashes, but who's going to know?

dTF9DMm.jpg


I then assembled the cockpits, adding some solder for the hoses that are seen behind the pilots' shoulders. The targeting computers I cut down since I wasn't planning on modeling them extended. I then painted them according to reference photos, then gave them a wash in black and a drybrushing of silver. Then I glued the pilots in place.

GsbtZwy.jpg


After assembling the laser cannons (leaving the barrels unglued so I could detach them) and drilling holes in the ends of the laser tips, I knolled the parts out on the workbench, because I needed to plan out which option parts to use for each pilot. This got interesting on the engine cans, because while the kit only provides one landing gear door option, the studio models for Luke and Red Leader have no raised ridge on them. So I used the ones sans ridge for the bottom engine cowlings, and cut some panel lines into them to indicate the seams for the landing gear doors.

xiKEEDB.jpg


Work continued till I got all the major subassemblies built and ready for detailing. Since this diorama will feature lights, I had to add them to the engines before attaching them to the wings. I robbed the road wheels from a 1:72 tank model kit to use as LED holders, since they had details on them that could be seen when the lights are off. I routed the wires through, and then realized that I glued the flat inner wing parts in too early since now I had to carve a channel through them, glue the wires in, and then cover them with superglue for the filler.

NKavtRX.jpg


After the subassemblies were completed, I started to add extra detailing. I decided to replicate the styrene chip patterns on the studio models. This was trivial for Red Leader and Red Three, but Red Five and Red Two don't have great photo references, so I had to improvise a bit. I used the Moving Edition Bandai X-wing as a reference for Luke, since from what I can tell, Bandai did a fantastic job replicating the chip patterns on the hero filming miniature. Wedge's X-wing required that I reference a papercraft model kit, which had accurate details on it for Red 2. I also added some missing panel lines that I saw in references. Fun fact, it's abundantly clear that the guys at Finemolds referenced the Red 3 miniature for the details. The panel lines and chips almost perfectly match that miniature. Almost. There are a few inaccurate chips here and there, plus a few missing ones I needed to restore, but overall it's a decent replica of this ship. After the styrene chips were glued on, I added the missing sloped trailing edges to the nose cones of Red 1, 2, and 5 with sheet styrene, then added styrene rod to the trailing edges of the wings. I lost four of the greebles on the back of the wings, so I had to order another kit to replace them, but now I have another whole kit so I can make a fifth one later for a hangar diorama or something.

65zjHLA.jpg


After gluing all those tiny chips down, I had to sand them flatter. Using my dial calipers, I determined that the chips on the kit parts are .005" tall, while I used .010" styrene strip to make the chips on my models. So I had to sand them down so they'd match and be in scale with the ships.

MiqVSKC.jpg


From there, I made the mounting points and electronic plugs for the models. I could have gone with simply stabbing the models onto brass tube and calling it a day like I normally do, but this time I wanted something dynamic. So I put the mounting points on the back ends of the models. I then drilled two holes for the electrical plugs in the bottom of the butt plates, inserted the plugs (which are circuit board interface pins), and then put the sockets from connectors on the other end of the pins before supergluing those in place. I then tied all the engine light wires together and soldered them to the sockets. On one of the X-wings - Luke's - one of the engines didn't light. I dunno where the wire broke, but somehow during construction I broke the positive lead on it. So I had to carefully break open the engine, thread another wire in, and rout it on the outside of the engine can and across the wing into the center of the assembly.

Eiz6baO.jpg


nQ4N3ld.jpg


Anyway, that's all I have now. I'm pretty much at the point where I can start painting these suckers. I still have a sheet of vinyl masks for the canopy, minus one mask I used back in like 2002. I'm planning on painting three of them with base colors and their canopies, then recycling one of the sets for the fourth ship and using regular masking tape for the canopy to keep it paint free while I paint additional panels that weren't included in the decal sheet.
Very impressive work, anxious to see the finale.
You seem to be a man who knows his way around an X-wing.. maybe you could give a rookie a tip.

Do you have any advice for masking off the crazy barber pole stripes on Luke's cannons?

In honesty, I'm not there yet and may be overthinking it.. probably as easy as a twirl of the tape.. just mentally it "feels" a bit weird.

Obviously, you have your hands full, and I'll probably find it's easier than I'm anticipating, but if you have a tip I'd be all ears.

I'm building a Bandai 1/72, and it's my third one, I've just never attempted painting (or even water sliding) the blue twirl.
Honestly, never been a big fan of that detail anyway, and may just forego it again..lol.
 
Very impressive work, anxious to see the finale.
You seem to be a man who knows his way around an X-wing.. maybe you could give a rookie a tip.

Do you have any advice for masking off the crazy barber pole stripes on Luke's cannons?

In honesty, I'm not there yet and may be overthinking it.. probably as easy as a twirl of the tape.. just mentally it "feels" a bit weird.

Obviously, you have your hands full, and I'll probably find it's easier than I'm anticipating, but if you have a tip I'd be all ears.

I'm building a Bandai 1/72, and it's my third one, I've just never attempted painting (or even water sliding) the blue twirl.
Honestly, never been a big fan of that detail anyway, and may just forego it again..lol.
Thank you! I am not as well versed in the X-wing as some of the guys around here, but I try, lol!

I plan on using the kit decals for my ships, but if I were to mask the barber pole stripes, I'd first measure the gap between the blue stripes, then either cut some Tamiya tape to the same width or use a precut roll. I'd then start wrapping it around and use my dial calipers to ensure the gap remains consistent throughout the placement. Then I'd mask the rest of the cannon and paint it whatever color I used on the canopy as it appears to be the same color on the miniatures.
 
Very impressive work, anxious to see the finale.
You seem to be a man who knows his way around an X-wing.. maybe you could give a rookie a tip.

Do you have any advice for masking off the crazy barber pole stripes on Luke's cannons?

In honesty, I'm not there yet and may be overthinking it.. probably as easy as a twirl of the tape.. just mentally it "feels" a bit weird.

Obviously, you have your hands full, and I'll probably find it's easier than I'm anticipating, but if you have a tip I'd be all ears.

I'm building a Bandai 1/72, and it's my third one, I've just never attempted painting (or even water sliding) the blue twirl.
Honestly, never been a big fan of that detail anyway, and may just forego it again..lol.

Thank you! I am not as well versed in the X-wing as some of the guys around here, but I try, lol!

I plan on using the kit decals for my ships, but if I were to mask the barber pole stripes, I'd first measure the gap between the blue stripes, then either cut some Tamiya tape to the same width or use a precut roll. I'd then start wrapping it around and use my dial calipers to ensure the gap remains consistent throughout the placement. Then I'd mask the rest of the cannon and paint it whatever color I used on the canopy as it appears to be the same color on the miniatures.

Actually painting the barber pole stripes is extremely easy.

Use 3mm vinyl tape and it wraps around perfectly. You will have it masked in a matter of minutes. The tape has a natural way it wants to form around the curvature and keeps a pretty consistant gap.
I don't know if mine are perfectly sized or not but you can always cut the tape to whatever size you want.


Sorry MillenniumF, not to hijack your thread.

Cheers,
Josh
 
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Actually painting the barber pole stripes is extremely easy.

Use 3mm vinyl tape and it wraps around perfectly. You will have it masked in a matter of minutes. The tape has a natural way it wants to form around the curvature and keeps a pretty consistant gap.
I don't know if mine are perfectly sized or not but you can always cut the tape to whatever size you want.


Sorry MillenniumF, not to hijack your thread.

Cheers,
Josh
I wrap two 3mm next to each other and remove one leaving a perfectly spaced spiral.
 
Okay, update time! I've been chugging away at this project, and it's coming along quite nicely. :D

So after the styrene chips were all applied to the hulls and thinned, the next course of action was to paint the primer coat. This was also the paint I used for the interior of the cockpit, so it would also look great behind the canopies, so bonus! However, before I could do that I had to mask the windows. I had an old vinyl mask set meant for the Finemolds X-wing kit, but it only had three sets left and I have four X-wings under construction. I had originally decided to paint three of them first, then reuse one of the sets on the fourth ship, but I realized it was easier to just apply some Tamiya tape and cut it to fit the frames by hand, so I did that instead. Then I primed the fuselages, wing assemblies, droid strips, and the laser cannon barrels.

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After that, I set about figuring out what the base coat would be. I went back to my references and tried to figure out what would be an appropriate color. I decided the best course of action would be to utilize the highly scientific process of painting some samples of different light grays onto some cardstock and holding it up to photos of the miniatures. I discovered that Red 3 seemed to be painted a darker shade of off-white overall than the rest of the hero ships. I'm sure it's just the heavy weathering on the model, since it doesn't quite make sense to me that the mini was painted a different base color when they were rushing to get the ships painted for shooting and it's more likely they sprayed them all the same base shade of Reefer White. However, I kinda like that one of the ships is a different tone than the rest, as it helps differentiate them all a little bit more. So I painted Red Leader, Red 2, and Red 5 in Tamiya Insignia White, and painted Red 3 in Tamiya IJN Light Gray.

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When the ships were all base-coated, I turned my attention to the droid strips. These needed to be treated as their own individual sections since the R2 units are integral to the parts, so I masked off the primer layer for R2-F2 since it's pretty close to the color used on the full scale droid, then painted the rest of it IJN Light Gray since this is Biggs' droid. I then painted the white bodies of R2-D2 and R2-A3, and the red body of R5-K6 was then painted in Italian Red. I masked the bodies of R2-D2 and R2-A3 and painted their domes silver and Italian Red respectively, then masked off the remaining three droids and painted the droid strips Insignia White. I should also mention at this point that I had carved out the area under the R2-style domes' radar eyes in order to give them the correct profile, as in the kit they solved the undercut issue by simply extending the eye all the way to the base of the dome. They did the same thing with the front and back holo-projectors, so I cut them to a roughly round shape with my eXacto knife, which greatly improved their appearance.

I then needed to figure out how to make the panels of R2-A3. The only options in the kit are red and blue panels, but A3's panels are either white or silver depending on the reference you go with. He appeared with white panels when Luke drove by him on the way to the cantina, but in the Battle of Yavin you can see a shot behind Wedge in the trench where they looked silvery, plus the official Black Series figure has metallic panels. In the end, I decided metallic panels looked cooler and made the droid stand out. But how to paint them... I thought about ordering custom decals, but for a droid the size of a pea, it seemed like I'd be paying a lot for only a little. Plus, I figured since I had the opportunity and an eye loupe, why not try to cut my own masks? Yeah, I'm nuts, lol. In the end I successfully cut out the masks for R2-A3's dome by applying spare R2-D2 decals to the scrap vinyl from the canopy mask sheet, then cutting them by hand under magnification. They're not perfect, but they look good enough from a foot away, so that's fine with me. Then, one at a time, I applied a single mask, painted it in chrome silver, and then let it dry before moving on to the next mask. Then I painted his radar eye silver with a gloss black dot in the middle and applied the blue droid decals to his torso.

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After that I painted R2-F2's light gray and black stripes, painted his radar eye flat black with a gloss black lens, and then applied a spare torso decal to serve as a paint guide. I painted this area the same Insignia White I used on his stripe, then overlayed blue panel decals on top of it to give him his interface arms. I then used light gray panel liner for the panels on top of his head since on the full scale droid they're outlined in white.

R2-D2 was pretty easy, as I simply used the decals as-is. I did screw up the top panel decals, so I scraped off the ones that were hosed and then replaced them with spares from another decal sheet. However, the printing between them all was a bit inconsistent, so the panels I replaced are just a hair brighter than the rest of them. Ah well, it's hardly noticeable. I also painted his eye gloss black as I dislike the Finemolds decal sheet making his eye red. I then painted the status light under his eye red.

R5-K6 was... intimidating. The complex pinstriping on it is really difficult at this scale, and I don't have a brush thin enough to do it by hand, so for now I'm just doing the black and red parts. I painted the top of his flowerpot with black, then painted the black portions of the sides of the head. I then applied the decal for the top panels, as well as the ones around the sides of his head, and finally painted the eyes silver with a tiny dot of gloss black in the center of each. It does feel lacking without the white pinstriping, so I'm going to hunt for a very fine white pen to do that eventually. For now, it looks fine as-is.

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Well, that's it for now! Next up I'll be adding the decals for the paneling and the miscellaneous markings all over the hulls...
 
That is some very impressive work!
I love the idea of painting Red 3 in a different shade. I highly doubt the Rebel Alliance bought a million litres of reefer white and hosed all their ships in it.
There would be quite a bit of variation in reality between paint batches, touch ups, repairs etc so this is a really fantastic idea to break things up a bit.

On an interesting note, the RAL system of colours began with the Nazis in the second world war. They were so particular with the colour matching of their military vehicles they created paint formulas and paint companies were expected to match these extremely closely. There are letters to at least one paint supplier from a Kommandant congratulating them on their superior colour matching efforts. So it is interesting to see a military that did really care about the appearance of their hardware.
The Allied vehicles by comparison got slopped up with whatever was on hand it seems.

That work on the droids is perfect! Such perfection in fine detail gives me something to try and aspire to.

Cheers,
Josh
 
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