Bandai 1/72 PG Millennium Falcon (also the Revell Germany rebox)
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Jaitea
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Re: Bandai 1/72 Millennium Falcon
Yep a few pages ago:
astroboy said:
Out of curiosity, we've now seen AS-20, The DOA paints and now archive-x paints for the base coats.
Has anyone done a side by side comparison?
So far, I really liked the as-20 I used on my 1/144. It seemed quite white, which I liked for that scale.
Thoughts?
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I asked John Simmons about the comparison between the AS-20 & the Archive X Reefer White, he says they are a very good match for a base coat,....I can't comment on the DOA paints, I don't know anyone who has used them
J
Yep a few pages ago:
astroboy said:
Out of curiosity, we've now seen AS-20, The DOA paints and now archive-x paints for the base coats.
Has anyone done a side by side comparison?
So far, I really liked the as-20 I used on my 1/144. It seemed quite white, which I liked for that scale.
Thoughts?
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I asked John Simmons about the comparison between the AS-20 & the Archive X Reefer White, he says they are a very good match for a base coat,....I can't comment on the DOA paints, I don't know anyone who has used them
J
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Toadmeister
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Re: Bandai 1/72 Millennium Falcon
Tamiya AS-20 is a great color choice IMHO. Problem is that a spray bomb doesn't get fine coverage around small details and greebles. In this and smaller scales of SW models it doesn't work well for me. You can decant the spray can into a bottle but that is one more inconvenient step.
I Mix my own with Tamiya acrylic jar paint. A ratio of about 2 parts White to 1 part deck tan. Looks fantastic to me and much more convenient airbrushing and getting into small detailed areas with a low pressure airbrush. I used this mix or variations of it on most my Star Wars models.
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Tamiya AS-20 is a great color choice IMHO. Problem is that a spray bomb doesn't get fine coverage around small details and greebles. In this and smaller scales of SW models it doesn't work well for me. You can decant the spray can into a bottle but that is one more inconvenient step.
I Mix my own with Tamiya acrylic jar paint. A ratio of about 2 parts White to 1 part deck tan. Looks fantastic to me and much more convenient airbrushing and getting into small detailed areas with a low pressure airbrush. I used this mix or variations of it on most my Star Wars models.
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Murph
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Re: Bandai 1/72 Millennium Falcon
Yeah, that combo of Tamiya paint has never let me down, literally just mixed some up last night for the X Wing I'm working on. Definitely what I'll go with on the Falcon as well.
The only thing I've ever run into that was an issue, and others have mentioned this as well, is that it can look a little cold or blue-ish over black primer. The last time I used it I mixed some brown in with my second primer coat and it made the base coat much warmer, worked out great.
Yeah, that combo of Tamiya paint has never let me down, literally just mixed some up last night for the X Wing I'm working on. Definitely what I'll go with on the Falcon as well.
The only thing I've ever run into that was an issue, and others have mentioned this as well, is that it can look a little cold or blue-ish over black primer. The last time I used it I mixed some brown in with my second primer coat and it made the base coat much warmer, worked out great.
Re: Bandai 1/72 Millennium Falcon
What about Vallejo's Insignia White? I can post a pic later, but I used it on a small Revell Star Destroyer snap kit awhile back, and it looks similar to what you are sharing.
What about Vallejo's Insignia White? I can post a pic later, but I used it on a small Revell Star Destroyer snap kit awhile back, and it looks similar to what you are sharing.
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Solo, did you do the whole thing over the weekend? LOL
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astroboy
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Re: Bandai 1/72 Millennium Falcon
It looks blue-ish until yo start to add the weathering. Then it looks perfect.
IMHO, a lot of the newer "falcon basecoat" paints out there look too brown. Where do you go from there?
It looks blue-ish until yo start to add the weathering. Then it looks perfect.
IMHO, a lot of the newer "falcon basecoat" paints out there look too brown. Where do you go from there?
Shaunpug
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Re: Bandai 1/72 Millennium Falcon
I had great success with using Vallejos White Grey as a base on my 1/144 Falcon. I shot it with a few hits of Insignia White (Vallejo) in heavily detailed areas as well afterwards. It worked great!
Bandai 1/144 TFA Millenium Falcon https://imgur.com/a/tkSZN
For my PG Falcon I'll be using Archive X paints [emoji173][emoji173][emoji173][emoji173]
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I had great success with using Vallejos White Grey as a base on my 1/144 Falcon. I shot it with a few hits of Insignia White (Vallejo) in heavily detailed areas as well afterwards. It worked great!
Bandai 1/144 TFA Millenium Falcon https://imgur.com/a/tkSZN
For my PG Falcon I'll be using Archive X paints [emoji173][emoji173][emoji173][emoji173]
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Re: Bandai 1/72 Millennium Falcon
So here's a question. I apologize if it's been covered. I think I got lucky with my last Bandai 1/144 Falcon and happened to use automotive primer under the AS-20 lacquer as people have said that the paint will crack over Bandai plastic. Has anyone tried using conventional primer such as Tamiya fine under the AS-20?
So here's a question. I apologize if it's been covered. I think I got lucky with my last Bandai 1/144 Falcon and happened to use automotive primer under the AS-20 lacquer as people have said that the paint will crack over Bandai plastic. Has anyone tried using conventional primer such as Tamiya fine under the AS-20?
Murph
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Re: Bandai 1/72 Millennium Falcon
I've sprayed AS-20 over lots of different primers, including Tamiya, on a bunch of Bandai models. Never had a problem. I've also sprayed straight onto the plastic with no issues. I thought it was oil thinners or something that was causing the cracked plastic for some people?
I've sprayed AS-20 over lots of different primers, including Tamiya, on a bunch of Bandai models. Never had a problem. I've also sprayed straight onto the plastic with no issues. I thought it was oil thinners or something that was causing the cracked plastic for some people?
Re: Bandai 1/72 Millennium Falcon
For what it is worth, I have used Weber Oderless Turpenoid directly on unpainted Bandai plastic that has had nothing more than a coat of matte varnish and have had no ill effects
I've used straight AS-20 with no primer coat along with oil washes thinned with Weber Oderless Turpenoid on some of my Bandai 1/72 X-wings with no ill effects
I typically use Army Painter primers and have never had an issue with any Tamiya brands so far except for one incident....
recently I was matte varnishing a Bandai 1/72 Cosmo Falcon where I sprayed the bottom with AS-16 over an Army Primer Black base coat, applied some oils to it, but when I then tried spraying a varnish on it, the paint and the paint cracked. I sanded a bit and resprayed over it, and it was fine.
I had used that paint from the same can along with an extra layer of AS-20 and that same varnish on my Fine Molds falcon and had no problem. One difference here was that I put on an unusually thick coat of the AS-16 (by accident due to using a spray can ).
Maybe it was not fully dry and had some reaction or the varnish was too "hot" since I also sprayed it a little heavy handed as well? I did encounter a similar issue on my moebius BSG 1/72 using the same varnish spray over just plain army primer white that had been weathered with oils. It wasn't all over,, just in a few spots.
So I suspect it is more the varnish's fault
Although just this past Saturday I picked up some Windsor Newton water-mixable oil paints
Yes, they are true oil paints, the only difference is they can be thinned and cleaned with water instead of Weber Oderless Turpenoid or similar
I figured I would give them a try since it is a non-toxic alternative to turpenoid or turpentine and you still potentially get the same results
For what it is worth, I have used Weber Oderless Turpenoid directly on unpainted Bandai plastic that has had nothing more than a coat of matte varnish and have had no ill effects
I've used straight AS-20 with no primer coat along with oil washes thinned with Weber Oderless Turpenoid on some of my Bandai 1/72 X-wings with no ill effects
I typically use Army Painter primers and have never had an issue with any Tamiya brands so far except for one incident....
recently I was matte varnishing a Bandai 1/72 Cosmo Falcon where I sprayed the bottom with AS-16 over an Army Primer Black base coat, applied some oils to it, but when I then tried spraying a varnish on it, the paint and the paint cracked. I sanded a bit and resprayed over it, and it was fine.
I had used that paint from the same can along with an extra layer of AS-20 and that same varnish on my Fine Molds falcon and had no problem. One difference here was that I put on an unusually thick coat of the AS-16 (by accident due to using a spray can ).
Maybe it was not fully dry and had some reaction or the varnish was too "hot" since I also sprayed it a little heavy handed as well? I did encounter a similar issue on my moebius BSG 1/72 using the same varnish spray over just plain army primer white that had been weathered with oils. It wasn't all over,, just in a few spots.
So I suspect it is more the varnish's fault
Although just this past Saturday I picked up some Windsor Newton water-mixable oil paints
Yes, they are true oil paints, the only difference is they can be thinned and cleaned with water instead of Weber Oderless Turpenoid or similar
I figured I would give them a try since it is a non-toxic alternative to turpenoid or turpentine and you still potentially get the same results
Hunk a Junk
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Re: Bandai 1/72 Millennium Falcon
Looks great! Especially like the rust and dent work on the engine vents.
As for you not getting this kit until next year... that doesn't work for me. You're one of the top resident Falcon experts here and I can't wait that long to see you building one of these (and stealing your best ideas)! Dude, go start a GoFundMe page. I'll put in $10! :cheers:lol
Looks great! Especially like the rust and dent work on the engine vents.
As for you not getting this kit until next year... that doesn't work for me. You're one of the top resident Falcon experts here and I can't wait that long to see you building one of these (and stealing your best ideas)! Dude, go start a GoFundMe page. I'll put in $10! :cheers:lol
Jaitea
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Re: Bandai 1/72 Millennium Falcon
Ha Thanks Hunk a Junk,....not an expert,,...just unhealthily obsessed:cheers
The plan is.....to gonna finish my DeAgo & sell it....hopefully,....& maybe my FineMolds
John
Ha Thanks Hunk a Junk,....not an expert,,...just unhealthily obsessed:cheers
The plan is.....to gonna finish my DeAgo & sell it....hopefully,....& maybe my FineMolds
John
Hunk a Junk
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Re: Bandai 1/72 Millennium Falcon
Nothing unhealthy about it. Unless your workspace isn't properly ventilated.
Nothing unhealthy about it. Unless your workspace isn't properly ventilated.
Re: Bandai 1/72 Millennium Falcon
That white grey looks pretty nice on the falcon. Is it just the lighting in the photo's or does it have a warmish yellowish/tanish tint to it?
That touch of yellow or tan that so many SW vehicles have is important to me, cause it really gives it that weatherbeaten aged left out in the sun to long look that just makes SW vessels seem all the more authentic.
That white grey looks pretty nice on the falcon. Is it just the lighting in the photo's or does it have a warmish yellowish/tanish tint to it?
That touch of yellow or tan that so many SW vehicles have is important to me, cause it really gives it that weatherbeaten aged left out in the sun to long look that just makes SW vessels seem all the more authentic.
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