As you've all probably noticed, I'm working on ODST armor, and need help with knife.

[darkesword2020]

I figured some of you might know where to get a knife similar to the one this the ODST Buck has on his chestplate as well as the respective sheath? Maybe it would be easier to get one made? I don't know, that's why I wanted to pose this question to you guys, I figure we have both sides of the coin here, those whom know similar knives, and those whom could possibly make it.

- Fitz

 

[Guardian Devil]

Re: As you've all probably noticed, I'm working on ODST armor, and need help with kni

Just looks like a modern bayonet/special forces style survival knife.
Search around google a bit, I'm sure you'll come up with some very close ones

 

[darkesword2020]

Re: As you've all probably noticed, I'm working on ODST armor, and need help with kni

Just looks like a modern bayonet/special forces style survival knife.
Search around google a bit, I'm sure you'll come up with some very close ones

Nick it helps but at the same time doesn't, I'm not the kind of dude that settles for close enough, i've done a fair bit of searching but was hoping for some more direct replies with people whom know their way around knives.

 

[Grey]

Re: As you've all probably noticed, I'm working on ODST armor, and need help with kni

If your capable of making the rest of the armour, I imagine it'd be pretty easy for someone with your skillset to get something like an M9 Combat Knife and sculpt/carve a new set of grips for it if your dead set on it being an exact match. Certainly much cheaper than trying to have a professional custom make a knife for you.

Also i'm not sure how that knife is staying in the sheathe in that picture other than by magic since there's no retaining strap.

 

[Jeeves]

Re: As you've all probably noticed, I'm working on ODST armor, and need help with kni

This is a CG image, correct? If yes, and if you want it to be exact, I'd say you need to get it made.

The two things I notice that are a little unusual - the proportion of the handle width to the blade width is a little unusual - the blade seems narrow. In that sense, it does look like a bayonet.

The swell on the handle also looks a little unusual - again, to match it up, you'll probably need some custom work. The handle looks thick and rounded, so a wood or a micarta handle material would be optimal (black canvas micarta probably best). The image doesn't show it clearly, but it doesn't look like the blade tang is exposed (no metal exposed down the spine and the front of the grip). If that's the case, that's unusal as well - and could end up costing a bit more. It would, however, explain why the blade itself is so thin in relation to the grip.

Sheath is kydex (a thermoformed plastic). It also shows signs of not being a real world design, because in order to grip adequately, especially for inverted carry, a kydex sheath would probably extend over the guard a little more. It'll work, though.

Good news is that there are tons of people who can do this for you - probably in the $300-$600 range. There are tons of knifemakers, but there are fewer of them that do the fittings (the guard and the pommel) which may be cast items.

Go find a couple of knife forums, or google custom knives, and you'll find lists of custom makers. The ones that are in demand are not going to take your order...or if they do, you'll get your knife in 7-10 years. Go for a smaller, lesser known maker who is willing to take on your custom project.

LMK if you have more questions!
-Raj

 

[Guardian Devil]

Re: As you've all probably noticed, I'm working on ODST armor, and need help with kni

..those whom know similar knives..

Sorry I took the comment in the first post to mean, you would be happy with a similar knife.
If it's something perfectly accurate you're after then a custom job would be the only way to go for the exact details and proportions.

 

[Paracord Junky]

Re: As you've all probably noticed, I'm working on ODST armor, and need help with kni

let's see here. the blade and looks like kabar, but it seems a bit too long, and i dont know of a kabar/USMC that has a full tang.
the guard and looks like a plain bowie style.
I'd say the sheath is kydex except for the silver showing through in spots. that could be from something else though and not the sheath. if you want that neat blade profile in the sheath kydex would be the way to go i think.

i agree custom is probably your best bet if you want exact, but as the blade isn't visible i'd suggest remounting an existing blade rather than an entire custom piece.

 

[darkesword2020]

Re: As you've all probably noticed, I'm working on ODST armor, and need help with kni

let's see here. the blade and looks like kabar, but it seems a bit too long, and i dont know of a kabar/USMC that has a full tang.
the guard and looks like a plain bowie style.
I'd say the sheath is kydex except for the silver showing through in spots. that could be from something else though and not the sheath. if you want that neat blade profile in the sheath kydex would be the way to go i think.

i agree custom is probably your best bet if you want exact, but as the blade isn't visible i'd suggest remounting an existing blade rather than an entire custom piece.

Mind explaining remounting, sounds pretty viable?

 

[tubachris85x]

Re: As you've all probably noticed, I'm working on ODST armor, and need help with kni

Mind explaining remounting, sounds pretty viable?

he means get a knife that's similar instead of scratchbuilding

 

[Paracord Junky]

Re: As you've all probably noticed, I'm working on ODST armor, and need help with kni

he means get a knife that's similar instead of scratchbuilding

not quite, but close.

Mind explaining remounting, sounds pretty viable?

basically you find a knife with the right blade(in this case a kabar/USMC fighting knife or similar), and put a new, accurate handle on it. this would be much less expensive than commissioning a whole custom knife, and you might even be able to do it yourself. i've never shopped for a kydex sheath, as i prefer the look of leather, but they're not too expensive, and with a common blade type like this you might be able to find one "off the shelf" and not have to get it custom-made.

 

[darkesword2020]

Re: As you've all probably noticed, I'm working on ODST armor, and need help with kni

not quite, but close.



basically you find a knife with the right blade(in this case a kabar/USMC fighting knife or similar), and put a new, accurate handle on it. this would be much less expensive than commissioning a whole custom knife, and you might even be able to do it yourself. i've never shopped for a kydex sheath, as i prefer the look of leather, but they're not too expensive, and with a common blade type like this you might be able to find one "off the shelf" and not have to get it custom-made.

Alright,

Well what would be a good base model to use for the handle, and for the blade? The blade looks to be just a little over eight inches long.

- Fitz

 

[Paracord Junky]

Re: As you've all probably noticed, I'm working on ODST armor, and need help with kni

a full-size ka-bar blade is 7.75" long, so i'd start there. you could check flea market as some of the common knock-offs i've seen have slightly longer blades. the handle will probably have to be custom, the pic you posted is about as good as it gets for proportional reference
take a look at this.

called an "alabama bowie."

 

[darkesword2020]

Re: As you've all probably noticed, I'm working on ODST armor, and need help with kni

Hrm. How much does that run generally speaking? I could potentially sculpt the remaining details, mold it, and make plastic casts of the knives....

 

[MisriahArmory]

Re: As you've all probably noticed, I'm working on ODST armor, and need help with kni

Or rubber casts for conventions

 

[BigJoe88]

Re: As you've all probably noticed, I'm working on ODST armor, and need help with kni

i could do it myself but you would still need to find the sheath, that i cant do. the pommel and guard can be done from varying thicknesses of bar stock.
honestly though with some initiative you could probably crank it out in a week or two with some power tools and a descent set of files, as school is a bit up my butt right now.

 

[BigJoe88]

Re: As you've all probably noticed, I'm working on ODST armor, and need help with kni

also as a suggestion if you were to do it yourself, the handle is pinned in, as a way to do that yourself take some steel nails that are a bit thicker than the holes you would drill through it drive them through, and just grind em flat before you polish the handle.

also based on the screenshot the blade appears to be a kind of extended ka-bar style blade.

 

[darkesword2020]

Re: As you've all probably noticed, I'm working on ODST armor, and need help with kni

Hey Joe, I'm not in a particular hurry to get the knife done as it's an accessory, but that being said, you seem to know what you're doing and I'd like to ask for your help with this, if you have the time...later on?

 

[BigJoe88]

Re: As you've all probably noticed, I'm working on ODST armor, and need help with kni

alright then, well heres a little something for you to do till then. think you can get me something i could use as a template for the blade that you would be happy with.

 

[Dyonisis]

Re: As you've all probably noticed, I'm working on ODST armor, and need help with kni

That's not the traditional Kabar. For those who don't know,it's pronounced (K-bar). This is a Marine issued weapon. This is usually black,as opposed to silver(stainless steel)to not reflect light,and is for close combat,or stealth missions. Most(not all)of the ones I've seen can be attached to the muzzle of your rifle. This would also have the U.S. Marine symbol on it.

You can probably find one at any Army surplus store. We have one fittingly named - G.I. Joe's Army surplus store here in town. This has an old WWII practice bomb outside painted in camoflouge. They sell all things military issued. All the boots,and uniforms are used,but the coats sometimes were actual phased out surplus. Most of the time you'll see a soldiers' name inside the neck of shirst,and coats,or written inside the waistband,of slacks. Sometimes they even have full-dress uniforms from someone who has recently deceased.

You'd have more luck from a place like this where you can buy anything from primerless,(and powderless)grenades,to gas masks. I'm sure you'll find it,if you're looking for the Marine Kabar.

 

[ruze789]

Re: As you've all probably noticed, I'm working on ODST armor, and need help with kni

Here's a link to a screenshot on B.net of the blade:
http://www.bungie.net/Online/Halo3UserContentDetails.aspx?h3fileid=95366712