Are there any actual FANS of Star Wars still?
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rodneyfaile
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I think one day Disney will release a blu ray of Star Wars similar to the 5 version Final Cut set of Blade Runner.
Solo4114
Master Member
I certainly hope so, but we'll have to see.
yatia
New Member
Lets face it, a lot of people would buy it (me included no doubt).
Solo4114
Master Member
Sure, but that didn't stop Uncle George from saying "Screw you. They're MY stories." It's certainly possible Disney will do it better, but they have to want to spend the money. I expect they'll do it, but they've got to figure out a way to make it economical. I do think, however, that there's a technological reason for them to do so -- namely the fact that even the SEs are gonna be a generation behind pretty soon. People are already restoring films at 2K and 4K, which makes them ready for the next one or two generations of TV upgrades. But the Special Edition stuff is all done on masters that are, as I understand it, 1024p. Meaning you can't squeeze any extra resolution out of 'em. Meaning they've got to rescan EVERYTHING and develop new digital elements for the SEs anyway, so why not rescan the originals, clean 'em up, and then add in the digital stuff, too, and release the whole thing as a bundle? I'd buy that for a dollar. Probably more than just one. 
rodneyfaile
Sr Member
Of course there are still fans, but is there any Star Wars anymore?
seelsa73
Sr Member
Star Wars is whatever the creator says it is (or Disney now, going forward). The definition of Star Wars has and will always evolve with each new official story told.
rodneyfaile
Sr Member
I can take a dump and call it a iPad, but that doesn't make it so.
Solo4114
Master Member
Horsepuckey.
Star Wars is what the FANS decide it is, on an individual basis. They can tell me "This is Star Wars," but I don't have to agree. That's what you're selling with the Star Wars logo on it. But I, and ONLY I, am the final arbiter of what I consider to be Star Wars.
bwayne64
Master Member
I'm a huge Star Wars fan. Have been since the first chord of the theme music hit my ears in '77. I don't really think of the prequels as Star Wars. I kind of see them like the new Star Trek Movies. It ain't Star Trek but I can watch it and enjoy it. I mean Hollyweird can remake, reboot and regurgitate till the apocalypse, but it doesn't make it part of what we remember and love. I mean just because you build a beautiful piece of furniture, doesn't mean that you can't later spray paint it fluorescent pink, So I guess in regard to the Op's original post, I guess I'd have to answer in the negative. You wouldn't know it by looking at my model collection though, Cheers,
Joe
So I guess in regard to the Op's original post, I guess I'd have to answer in the negative. You wouldn't know it by looking at my model collection though, Cheers,Joe
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seelsa73
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It is the fans choice whether or not to like the story, certainly. And I respect everybody's individual opinion. But my point is; take it or leave it, the story is what the story is as set forth by whoever writes it just as it is with any other series of movies, books, etc. And the reason the prequels are different from the originals is because they are set in two different periods of time within the same universe, the prequels being representative of a peaceful time and evolves, or de-evolves in this case, into a time of hardship brought on by the oppression of the new regime (the Empire). So it's meant to be different in the case of Star Wars.
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Solo4114
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That's fine. My point is more that the relationship between author and audience is a two way street, not a top-down relationship where the author dictates and the audience is passive. Particularly when you're talking about a cultural phenomenon which is also a marketing franchise. I mean, let's bear in mind that "Star Wars" appeared on shoelaces back in the 70s and 80s. You had "Star Wars" brand drinking cups, "Star Wars" brand coloring books, "Star Wars" brand action figures, "Star Wars" storybooks and comics and the radio dramas and the pen and paper RPG and the arcade game and on and on and on.
I suppose it depends on what "Star Wars" means to you, really. If it simply means "The stuff with the logo on it," well then, fine, that's Star Wars to you. If it's the things within the franchise that you love, ok, fine, then THAT's what it means. And so on and so forth. Or maybe Star Wars is the stuff that evokes a particular feeling within you and thus is a lot tougher to define. Fine and dandy.
My point is that, when you're talking about something as big as the Star Wars franchise, all of those viewpoints are legit. I mean, personally, I do NOT accept something as "Star Wars" merely because they slapped a logo on it, but I'm sure there's folks who do. And those folks likely cherish their vintage 1985 Return of the Jedi Trapper Keeper, just as they do their VHS copy of ANH from CBS-Fox Home Video, just as they do the memory of the first time they saw their favorite entry in the film series or the first time they sat down to play X-Wing (1992).
Star Wars may be under the legal control of the Disney corporation now, but that doesn't mean that they control the audience's experience of the franchise.
rodneyfaile
Sr Member
Caddyshack 2 is NOT a Caddyshack movie, I don't care what they call it! I don't have to like Caddyshack 2 to be a real fan of Caddyshack.
They stopped making Caddyshack movies, and they stopped making Star Wars movies. I'm a fan of the ones they did make, and hope they make more.
They stopped making Caddyshack movies, and they stopped making Star Wars movies. I'm a fan of the ones they did make, and hope they make more.
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davey77
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i think the great thing about star wars, and other big franchises is that there is something for everyone. i dont really like anything set before ANH in terms of story, i have fond memories of episode 1 because of the excitment when it came out. but the last coupl eof years i have mainly concentrated on the EU novels. i only really like the OT and the EU novels, and thats great for me. they are my little corner of the star wars universe.
the great thing about any franchise this size is that if you dont like a release, be it film, radio, book, comic etc. then you can just choose to ignore it and go somewhere else. for example if the new stars wars disney films are rubbish in my eyes, ill just shrug and go back to the books, or start on the comics. my main love is batman, and there are certain areas of the batman universe that i love (burton movies, nolan movies, miller comics, anything with Tim Drake's robin etc) and some that make my skin crawl (60s batman, clooney batman etc) but thats great because i can just stick to the batman stuff i like.
james bond and sherlock holmes are perfect examples too. if you dont like one, theres always another version/movie/actor out there for you to delve into instead.
the great thing about any franchise this size is that if you dont like a release, be it film, radio, book, comic etc. then you can just choose to ignore it and go somewhere else. for example if the new stars wars disney films are rubbish in my eyes, ill just shrug and go back to the books, or start on the comics. my main love is batman, and there are certain areas of the batman universe that i love (burton movies, nolan movies, miller comics, anything with Tim Drake's robin etc) and some that make my skin crawl (60s batman, clooney batman etc) but thats great because i can just stick to the batman stuff i like.
james bond and sherlock holmes are perfect examples too. if you dont like one, theres always another version/movie/actor out there for you to delve into instead.
I think from now on I'm not buying any more SW books period until we see whether Disney is going to destroy the EU first. There's been rumors this week that that might be the route they're going. I think they will have to send the book/comic part of Lucas Licensing to the same graveyard as LucasArts if they do that.
Zombie_61
Master Member
Try telling that to George "They're my movies" Lucas. :lol
I agree with you, by the way. Once it's out of the author's/filmmaker's hands and released to the public it either lives or dies depending on the audience's reaction; the author/filmmaker has no control over that.
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Bodie27
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When I hear the Yub Yub celebration song it takes me back to that time and I get to feel the nostalgia and for a few seconds I'm all those years younger and a lot less jaded and caught up in it all. It stops being what was better after viewing it 50 times in slo mo and more that visceral enjoyments. It makes me smile.
vaderdarth
Master Member
I'm a fan of all things star wars. Die hard fan of original trilogy. lukewarm fan of prequels...but each had it's positives. Any opportunity to see SW Universe on screen for me is a good thing. Being in a theater watching Phantom Menace was good because the people in the theater were both old fans like myself and new upcoming fans which brings me great joy. Seeing kids with parents all in costume on opening night at the theater is such a joyous event!!! Entire theater cheering for the hero is a wonderful experience. I've read many of the novels and comics and seen the animated series..........and I enjoy each in it's own way. I'm not a snob like some fair weather fans out there. What they like and what a 10 year old kid likes is NOT supposed to be the same thing at all. For me, Star Wars puts me back in 10yr old wonderland again....and if it doesn't do the same for you when prequel R2 is on screen, you MAY not be a true SW fan. Put away the film critic that we've all become in our old age, and let the force flow through you.......and you'll enjoy SW again.
Put away the film critic that we've all become in our old age, and let the force flow through you.......and you'll enjoy SW again.
cboath
Master Member
Uhhh....ok....
ROTJ is not Casablanca though. Yub yub isn't a week point in the movie, just hardly befitting the ending of a massive saga.
I have to admit, a massive package of all versions is a pretty good idea. If it can work for blade runner, it should work for star wars. After all, star wars is a bigger market. Also interesting that the masters for the SE are such low rez. You'd think a guy who's so big on tech and innovation (and one who pushes the envelope to its edge) would have done it in as high a resolution as humanly possible to make the work down the road much. It may have taken 50ish years for TV to jump to 1080p, but no way in hell it'll be another 50 to the next level. Japan is supposedly going to have 2 or 4k broadcast in the next year or so i've heard.
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