Are there any actual FANS of Star Wars still?

[TK9120]

He did write the outlines for them, if that makes u feel better. Which is basically the same as it was for ESB and ROTJ.

It does. And that's why I have hope they will be good.

 

[rodneyfaile]

I used to feel that only the original trilogy by Lucas was really Star Wars, and all the expanded universe was no more than fan fiction, lots of fun, but still no more valid than stories I made up myself.

Then came the horror of the special editions with wimpy jabba, greedo shooting, fake wampa, and a musical number. The impenetrable Lucas armor was severly cracked. Then came jar-jar, and the rest of the prequels.

There are good parts and bad parts to be found in the new stuff, but nothing has ever matched the place The Original Trilogy and Lucas once held.

I guess what I'm saying is Lucas has damaged my love of Star Wars with his tinkering, bad prequels, and not releasing the unaltered original trilogy.

I still love Star Wars, but sadly not like I one did. There was a time when it was unquestionably #1 on any list imaginable.

The only good thing to come out of "the fall" is that now I am readily open for Disney to scoop it up and raise it back up. I don't know if it can ever reach the heights it once was, but movies like The Avengers make new feel that kid in me is still ready for a valid bandwagon to jump on.

 

[Solo4114]

I used to feel that only the original trilogy by Lucas was really Star Wars, and all the expanded universe was no more than fan fiction, lots of fun, but still no more valid than stories I made up myself.

Then came the horror of the special editions with wimpy jabba, greedo shooting, fake wampa, and a musical number. The impenetrable Lucas armor was severly cracked. Then came jar-jar, and the rest of the prequels.

There are good parts and bad parts to be found in the new stuff, but nothing has ever matched the place The Original Trilogy and Lucas once held.

I guess what I'm saying is Lucas has damaged my love of Star Wars with his tinkering, bad prequels, and not releasing the unaltered original trilogy.

I still love Star Wars, but sadly not like I one did. There was a time when it was unquestionably #1 on any list imaginable.

The only good thing to come out of "the fall" is that now I am readily open for Disney to scoop it up and raise it back up. I don't know if it can ever reach the heights it once was, but movies like The Avengers make new feel that kid in me is still ready for a valid bandwagon to jump on.

That's about where I came out. I had a somewhat different relationship with the EU. I used to gobble it up, but by the late 90s, the EU books were getting pretty weak (this was in the depths of the Del Ray years, I think). I still loved the comics, though, in the form of the Classic Star Wars and early KOTOR stuff. The games were usually quite good. X-wing/Tie Fighter/X-Wing Alliance were all awesome. Dark Forces and Dark Forces 2 were quite good. Jedi Knight 2 less so. It went downhill from there. Then came the prequels and that basically killed my love of the franchise as a whole.

Since 1999, my enjoyment of the franchise has diminished considerably. The brand itself now stands for "Prepare for disappointment" rather than "Prepare for awesomeness." Sometimes I'm pleasantly surprised. Most times I'm not. I basically "divorced" Star Wars.

HOWEVER, last year, on May 25, I sat down and watched my "Bonus Disc" version of Star Wars/ANH, and remembered why I loved the films. It still sucked to see it all squished on my computer monitor, and there's basically no way to play it on my 55" plasma without feeling like I need a new prescription, but there's still something there.

If Disney can release a restored version of the non-SE OT, I will happily pay a premium for it. Hell, release it with the SE versions throughout the years, and let me optionally watch scenes with the changes as a curio. I wouldn't mind. Just give me back my originals and do what you will with the franchise. If they can do that, I expect I'll rekindle my real love for the originals, while being able to treat the rest like the Star Wars Buffet -- take what you want and leave the rest.

 

[Michael Bergeron]

That's about where I came out. I had a somewhat different relationship with the EU. I used to gobble it up, but by the late 90s, the EU books were getting pretty weak (this was in the depths of the Del Ray years, I think). I still loved the comics, though, in the form of the Classic Star Wars and early KOTOR stuff. The games were usually quite good. X-wing/Tie Fighter/X-Wing Alliance were all awesome. Dark Forces and Dark Forces 2 were quite good. Jedi Knight 2 less so. It went downhill from there. Then came the prequels and that basically killed my love of the franchise as a whole.

Very similar experience here!

HOWEVER, last year, on May 25, I sat down and watched my "Bonus Disc" version of Star Wars/ANH, and remembered why I loved the films. It still sucked to see it all squished on my computer monitor, and there's basically no way to play it on my 55" plasma without feeling like I need a new prescription, but there's still something there.

If Disney can release a restored version of the non-SE OT, I will happily pay a premium for it. Hell, release it with the SE versions throughout the years, and let me optionally watch scenes with the changes as a curio. I wouldn't mind. Just give me back my originals and do what you will with the franchise. If they can do that, I expect I'll rekindle my real love for the originals, while being able to treat the rest like the Star Wars Buffet -- take what you want and leave the rest.

If you have a digital media player then there are ways you can see the non-SE OT in HD. It's a huge difference in experience for sure!

 

[Solo4114]

I do, yeah. I can stream stuff from my PC to my Xbox, but Windows Media Center has been....kinda weak in terms of things like resolution and transfer speeds and such.

 

[Michael Bergeron]

I do, yeah. I can stream stuff from my PC to my Xbox, but Windows Media Center has been....kinda weak in terms of things like resolution and transfer speeds and such.

For $100 you can get yourself something like a WDTV that'll stream full Bluray resolution to your TV either over your network or via USB. Maybe something to look into. I got one and never went back!

 

[Solo4114]

That could be worth it. I've been using a range extender lately, but it's not exactly optimal. I need to reorganize how my network's laid out physically in my home, I think. That or get a range extender for in between the main brick wall separating the media room from the rest of the house...which would mean I'd have an extender on one side of the wall, and an extender on the other.

 

[Bigdaddy]

For $100 you can get yourself something like a WDTV that'll stream full Bluray resolution to your TV either over your network or via USB. Maybe something to look into. I got one and never went back!

:thumbsup The best media investment I've made!
HD non-SE Star wars:confused Simply the best viewing since I saw it in the theater:cool! I've watched it 6 times in the last month (purely for prop research ) my wife is ready to club me facepalm

Listen to MB, the Force is strong with this one:thumbsup

 

[seelsa73]

That could be worth it. I've been using a range extender lately, but it's not exactly optimal. I need to reorganize how my network's laid out physically in my home, I think. That or get a range extender for in between the main brick wall separating the media room from the rest of the house...which would mean I'd have an extender on one side of the wall, and an extender on the other.

I consider myself pretty knowledgeable with computers, but that just confused the hell out of me.

Anybody know where i might find the Young Jedi Knights books? I read some of them as a kid and wanted to read more, but I can't find them anywhere.

 

[Solo4114]

I consider myself pretty knowledgeable with computers, but that just confused the hell out of me.

I'll explain. At the front of the house, I have my router which is hooked up to a cable modem. One room away, I have my PC which is hooked up to a network range extender (which is basically another router that can catch a signal and bounce it elsewhere in the house). The problem is that two rooms and a brick wall away, I've got all my media devices. They have wifi, but their wifi SUCKS. Seriously, the wifi components on Panasonic TVs and Blu-Ray players are garbage. My receiver isn't much better. The only device with a halfway decent wifi adaptor is my X360.

The other problem is that, in the current configuration, even my PC, sitting less than 50 feet from the main router, has issues with the internet. It'll sometimes take repeated hits of the "enter" key for it to remember to continue a search. It's like it loses connection for fractions of a second. Very annoying. So, I'm thinking I need to adjust how the network is setup in the house in terms of where all the various bits and bobs are placed. I'd put the router in the media room, if I had the choice, but the problem is it's gotta hook into the cable modem, and the only cable line in the media room is dedicated to, well, the cable TV. I could run a splitter in there, but it'd degrade the signal considerably.

I'm thinking my eventual solution will be to add a cable jack to the room with the PC and move the router to there, which will bring the router closer to the media room.

 

[jmgrice]

Re: Re: Are there any actual FANS of Star Wars still?

I'll explain. At the front of the house, I have my router which is hooked up to a cable modem. One room away, I have my PC which is hooked up to a network range extender (which is basically another router that can catch a signal and bounce it elsewhere in the house). The problem is that two rooms and a brick wall away, I've got all my media devices. They have wifi, but their wifi SUCKS. Seriously, the wifi components on Panasonic TVs and Blu-Ray players are garbage. My receiver isn't much better. The only device with a halfway decent wifi adaptor is my X360.

The other problem is that, in the current configuration, even my PC, sitting less than 50 feet from the main router, has issues with the internet. It'll sometimes take repeated hits of the "enter" key for it to remember to continue a search. It's like it loses connection for fractions of a second. Very annoying. So, I'm thinking I need to adjust how the network is setup in the house in terms of where all the various bits and bobs are placed. I'd put the router in the media room, if I had the choice, but the problem is it's gotta hook into the cable modem, and the only cable line in the media room is dedicated to, well, the cable TV. I could run a splitter in there, but it'd degrade the signal considerably.

I'm thinking my eventual solution will be to add a cable jack to the room with the PC and move the router to there, which will bring the router closer to the media room.

I know its a pain. But asides my mobbile devices. Everything is connected with ethernet because of these problems

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[BenCozine]

Fan of the first two films only (1977 & 1980) everything else is crap IMO.

 

[Michael Bergeron]

Really? ROTJ is crap?

I know a lot of people have issues with the Ewoks but aside from that I love it. Great scenes with Luke, the Emperor, and Vader and an unbelievably impressive space battle seals the deal for me.

 

[Solo4114]

ROTJ isn't crap, but it's basically a suped-up version of the first film with some closure thrown in on the Emperor/Vader/Luke thing. But hey, at least Sophia Coppola isn't in it...

 

[scottjua]

I've come recently to discover the phantom edit and attack of the phantom and those two feats made my enjoyment of at least two of the prequel trilogy jump immensely.

They're actually pretty decent that way. If only I could watch those versions in full hd. >_<

That said I still WANT to like ROTS but there's just too much in awful dialog, continuity, and full on retard scenes that kill it for me. In spite of it being pretty "the high ground" it does NOT hold.

Ugh.

As for the SE OT, I don't mind MOST of what GL has done, but the Han and Greedo changes are unforgivable. UNFORGIVABLE!!! Horrible travesty.

That, the new end song in Jedi (i miss my yub yub), and Vader's "Noooooo" grate on me to no end. Everything else I can live with to a degree.

 

[cboath]

It always surprises me how many people are attached to yub-yub.

For what was supposed to the finale' of a trilogy with no more really planned it seemed on the lame side to me. I don't want teddy bears singing me out of the greatest trilogy ever.

 

[Solo4114]

It always surprises me how many people are attached to yub-yub.

For what was supposed to the finale' of a trilogy with no more really planned it seemed on the lame side to me. I don't want teddy bears singing me out of the greatest trilogy ever.

For me, it's less about an attachment to Yub Yub itself, but rather two other somewhat related issues.

First, I think some of us have reached the conclusion that, whatever its imperfections may have been (and there were plenty), the OOT was a product of its time, a monumental achievement in that time, and something that deserves to be preserved rather than "improved."

Second, the "improvements" are decidedly a matter of taste. I find the replacement music to be bland and lacking in character. It sounds totally generic to me. Other changes are worse. I hate the CGI Jabba band. Actually, I hate the bulk of the CGI in the SE OT precisely because it obscures the actual technical achievements of the OOT.


So, with Yub Yub, it's less that I want Yub Yub itself back, but just that I want people to leave what was done alone and quit trying to "improve" it. I mean, I could colorize Casablanca and stick in a Will Smith clone to spout funny one-liners during the film, then call it a "Special Edition." Wouldn't make it better, though.

 

[scottjua]

It always surprises me how many people are attached to yub-yub.

For what was supposed to the finale' of a trilogy with no more really planned it seemed on the lame side to me. I don't want teddy bears singing me out of the greatest trilogy ever.

For me, it's less about an attachment to Yub Yub itself, but rather two other somewhat related issues.

First, I think some of us have reached the conclusion that, whatever its imperfections may have been (and there were plenty), the OOT was a product of its time, a monumental achievement in that time, and something that deserves to be preserved rather than "improved."

Second, the "improvements" are decidedly a matter of taste. I find the replacement music to be bland and lacking in character. It sounds totally generic to me. Other changes are worse. I hate the CGI Jabba band. Actually, I hate the bulk of the CGI in the SE OT precisely because it obscures the actual technical achievements of the OOT.


So, with Yub Yub, it's less that I want Yub Yub itself back, but just that I want people to leave what was done alone and quit trying to "improve" it. I mean, I could colorize Casablanca and stick in a Will Smith clone to spout funny one-liners during the film, then call it a "Special Edition." Wouldn't make it better, though.

I agree in a way. To some degree I don't mind a little tinkering... like in ANH, the end battle of Yavin additions really work for me. So does the scene where Han runs into the entire death star's compliment of troopers instead of the same three he was chasing...

but the song that replaced yub yub... well, it just sucks. Even blinking ewoks... as unnerving as they are, are passable for me.

Back on topic-ish... I'm pretty much game for anything star wars, and LOVE the clone wars cartoon. Anakin's fall to the dark side is so much more believable through that story arc than in EpIII.

However, I do take them all with their flaws, and try to mentally files those parts away.

 

[Michael Bergeron]

For me I just find it unbelievable that the Emperor dies and then all of a sudden they're throwing stormtroopers off of buildings in Coruscant. Does his death throw things into chaos? Sure, but it doesn't mean that all of a sudden the troops' blasters stop working and there are no military commanders.

As cheesy as the Ewok celebration was it was far less contrived than the SE ending. It was about Luke's personal battle being over, not necessarilly the rebellion's.

 

[rodneyfaile]

It always surprises me how many people are attached to yub-yub.

For what was supposed to the finale' of a trilogy with no more really planned it seemed on the lame side to me. I don't want teddy bears singing me out of the greatest trilogy ever.

It's like changing "As Time Goes By" in Casablanca. Just don't do it.