ANOVOS issues (ANOVOS ONLY discussion)
- Thread starter Art Andrews
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Don't know if this is helpful , but here's a shot of a piece on the inside of my jacket that is more distressed. Real jacket on the left.
It's hard to find any actual grain on the screen jacket because it's been weathered to hell. Looks like, in addition to sanding and scuffing, it looks like they pressed it with a hot iron or something in places, which is one way to flatten grain and get some leathers to shine in specific spots. Leather is weird in that it can go shiny when put under pressure, like hitting with a hammer.
In my jacket, you can see the distressing cracks starting to form. There's nothing to be done about the thickness- no matter how softer it gets, it'll always be thicker, but I think the overall look of the jacket will get closer to the screen jacket with age.
I am holding out hope that it will wear well over time. To be fair, I'm sure (like the infamous stories about distressing the Raiders jacket) the costume team did some heavy weathering prior to filming. Maybe even the texture will soften a bit with time,etc. I have a Wested Hero Raiders and the texture was similar to this but with some weathering and a couple applications of Pecard's conditioner it has changed and even darkened...
EDIT - Apologies - I didn't see your follow up post above until after posting this. But it seems we agree on the weathering done to the screen used. Interesting about the hot iron. Might try that...
Can't wait to get it Monday. It's been a long wait.
Cheers
Steven
Still no tracking number for me. 
You have no clueSo Disney Parks getting Anogos items and selling them when said items have NOT been shipped to Customers who have paid in full years ago is not a conflict of interest?
As far as the parks being a separate part of the Company is a moot point.
They are DISNEY and we do NOT have all of our stuff plain and simple PERIOD.
Lichtbringer
Master Member
Sorry, but what is the reason for this statement?
As long as Disney accepts to have stuff from Anovos delivered for their resale, before the persons who ordered AND PAID before, they are a major part of this problem/situation.
Evidentially you need to re-read the posts here to get a grasp of what is going on.
Try and keep up
Try and keep up
Jagjaguwar
Sr Member
Oh? Any evidence to the contrary? Otherwise the same could be said about you.
Doesn’t seem like much of a leap to say that it’s problematic that Anovos seemingly doesn’t have any money (ie can’t refund me a measly $400 within 12 months) and can’t produce anything for individual consumers within the timeframes that they themselves laid out, yet when a new movie opens, here they are making and shipping out completed full sets of armor for Disney to use with marketing, and apparently stocking the shelves in Disney’s parks with their items.
I’m pretty sure that the TLJ stormtrooper helmets were available from the park stores in advance of even the earliest direct Anovos preorders. Who knows what else.
Sidebar: Thought I'd take a chance on something very non-critical. I ordered an "in stock" gray Imperial jumpsuit on Monday. Just got shipping notification. Tracking says it'll be here next week. I do hope this all means maybe things are turning around over there.
Okay, neutral corners. Let’s not turn this into a flame war.
Business for different contracts work in different ways, even in smaller companies, especially when licensing is involved. But others here may work for these companies or have a specific insight because of what they do (i.e. patent attorney or involved in manufacturing processes) and they can see the different side of just this or that.
That being said, let’s all try super hard to be sensitive to people’s experiences and pain. There are a lot of people who have been royally screwed here.
It’s very difficult to see a company, whose owners and employees we have met at conventions and shows; shaken their hands and trusted them not just with our money but with what makes us US. A company of collectors and nerds that wanted to give us the best we could ever get of the specialty items we’ve always wanted. That many of us never in a million years would ever have a chance of getting. And what did they do?
It APPEARS they have passed us, the little guy who helped to finance their operation with our preorders, money and more importantly our trust, for the money of a bigger and better contract. Leaving us to wonder why and what now.
No matter why or how, they are making items for mass markets like the parks and big companies, and we aren’t getting our items.
And to some extent, we deserve a true and honest explanation. Because as literal investors with our money, we’ve got that right when we aren’t getting our stuff. But we won’t get it. But that’s okay, if they deliver.
Anyway, this is a vent forum, and we can and will continues to do so, but let’s all remember we come for separate and truly diverse backgrounds. I’ll be honest and say I used to work for ILM for 10 years. Others here are die-hard fans (not unlike me) and others are dentists, lawyers and baristas. But we are all in fandom together and this needs to be a safe space, okay? Bitch and complain and say what you want, but please do it with respect and understanding of the others on the board.
Business for different contracts work in different ways, even in smaller companies, especially when licensing is involved. But others here may work for these companies or have a specific insight because of what they do (i.e. patent attorney or involved in manufacturing processes) and they can see the different side of just this or that.
That being said, let’s all try super hard to be sensitive to people’s experiences and pain. There are a lot of people who have been royally screwed here.
It’s very difficult to see a company, whose owners and employees we have met at conventions and shows; shaken their hands and trusted them not just with our money but with what makes us US. A company of collectors and nerds that wanted to give us the best we could ever get of the specialty items we’ve always wanted. That many of us never in a million years would ever have a chance of getting. And what did they do?
It APPEARS they have passed us, the little guy who helped to finance their operation with our preorders, money and more importantly our trust, for the money of a bigger and better contract. Leaving us to wonder why and what now.
No matter why or how, they are making items for mass markets like the parks and big companies, and we aren’t getting our items.
And to some extent, we deserve a true and honest explanation. Because as literal investors with our money, we’ve got that right when we aren’t getting our stuff. But we won’t get it. But that’s okay, if they deliver.
Anyway, this is a vent forum, and we can and will continues to do so, but let’s all remember we come for separate and truly diverse backgrounds. I’ll be honest and say I used to work for ILM for 10 years. Others here are die-hard fans (not unlike me) and others are dentists, lawyers and baristas. But we are all in fandom together and this needs to be a safe space, okay? Bitch and complain and say what you want, but please do it with respect and understanding of the others on the board.
ggriffaw
Sr Member
Another thing to keep in mind is that Disney controls the license, so when Disney orders stuff for their parks from a company they granted a license to, there may be extra incentive to keep them happy. For example if Anovos pisses off Disney, they could lose the license or have some other consequence that affects their business in the future. It's kind of like keeping your boss happy.
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cboath
Master Member
if true, it also means Disney knows they've screwed over thousands of people owed stuff in the process. Not exactly a win-win.
ggriffaw
Sr Member
True, but I can certainly believe Disney would prioritize getting whatever costumes they need for cast members over delivering to customers. It would look pretty silly if they had a grand opening of the Star Wars park with very few characters in costume. I think it is suspected that Anovos made the FO TK armor. What about the other characters?
I have no idea how many Anovos items are kept in stock at the stores. I wouldn't think very many.
Overall I don't think this was a huge factor in the delays. Most of the Anovos products should have been being produced in other unrelated supply chains. I don't think it was a coincidence that Anovos and efx both had really bad issues with delivering product at the same time. Both reported significant issues with products being produced by certain factories in China. Hopefully they have both made adjustments that will allow more reliable delivery.
Anovos didn’t make the “cast member “ costumes, they look nothing like the anovos kits.
Anovos did supply the Rise of the Resistance kits and the FOTK and Kylo helmets and complete FOTK you can buy at the park. There’s no doubt they sent our kits to the Rise of the Resistance instead of to customers.
Hopefully now that the parks are being supplied they will finally start shipping to pre-paid customers.
cboath
Master Member
Cast members (employees), yes. But word is attendees are able to buy stuff at the parks that should have gone to others first.
Yes, this is correct. You can buy the full FOTK costume assembled and it will ship to you as well as the FOTK helmet and Kylo Ren helmet and take them home with you form inside the park.
ECOLI
Well-Known Member
Just my two cents...they are starting to ship something....and the fact that the park is selling their items at least shows income to finish projects left on the afterburner. As upset as I am about my stuff being delayed I can also sympathize with what they are trying to accomplish. The helmets etc I have are really nice and of really solid construction. ---At this point Star Wars is at a small hiatus which hopefully allows for a great time to catch up and plan for other items etc. I'm doubtful but optimistic afterakk I'm sure the disney machine wants to tap into this accurate costume etc fanfare. Not an easy thing to do....
If, and I mean IF, supplying the Mouse with product was their only way to save the company and actually start to catch up on all the late orders, then I think it's an understandable move on their part.
They alluded to cashflow problems last year in one of their "celebration updates" due to pre-order cancellations and failed factory deliveries (though they worded it in a way that caused a bit of offense in the community).
It sucks that "new" customers are getting products before old ones, it really does, but if it's either that or no one gets anything, then it's the lesser of two evils.
Shipping the Solo TFA must've been a big win for them, since it's the first of their (many) new garments that need to get done. Hopefully they will be able to keep up the momentum. I'm guessing that it's the same factory producung the Picard jacket and if so, there's reason to look forward to it. Same with the Star Lord. It's gonna be an interesting spring and summer...
They alluded to cashflow problems last year in one of their "celebration updates" due to pre-order cancellations and failed factory deliveries (though they worded it in a way that caused a bit of offense in the community).
It sucks that "new" customers are getting products before old ones, it really does, but if it's either that or no one gets anything, then it's the lesser of two evils.
Shipping the Solo TFA must've been a big win for them, since it's the first of their (many) new garments that need to get done. Hopefully they will be able to keep up the momentum. I'm guessing that it's the same factory producung the Picard jacket and if so, there's reason to look forward to it. Same with the Star Lord. It's gonna be an interesting spring and summer...
...as long as it all arrives before Disney brings back Star Wars Weekends and we are allowed to kit up at the parks, I will consider this long running, bad plot line over...I will never let myself wind up in the 'preorder shuffle' again with Anovos, but at least I will have what I paid for now that the final installment of the ST trilogy is in the can, and on its way to digital.
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