ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion - Three ANH Greeblies Found

[chubsANDdoggers]

But, the bottom of the mount is not rounded. Only the bullnose roundover and rounded edges make it look that way.

Are you saying the bottom of the mount is flat? It looks like it sort of in this picture..

That’s actually how I did my original mount but never really liked it. I also originally did the sides in between the rings flat as well but it’s not that flat so I redid that (among many other small, minor details)..

I changed it for this new mount I’m working no. So it’s now a rounded belly but that I can change easily. This is the only other picture I can find shows the bottom but it’s way to dark to really see anything?

 

[Vanitas]

Hard to say, though the bottom doesn't appear to be flat.

 

[kpax]

No... Sorry,

The very bottom.

 

[Vanitas]

Oh, I see. I thought you meant a flat portion of the cradle's direct underside.

 

[kpax]

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Hard to say, though the bottom doesn't appear to be flat.

It is flat with roughly rounded uneven edges prob by hand.

There is no practical way to machine a curved bottom on a handmill. ( not CNC)
Making the bottom flat is just logical for machining .

 

[chubsANDdoggers]

kpax! Great catch. I was hoping someone would notice that. I did that only because of these pics and it looked “rounded” so I threw it in to see if anyone would notice and throw some guidance back. I appreciate ur eye!

 

[chubsANDdoggers]

Oh, I see. I thought you meant a flat portion of the cradle's direct underside.

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That’s what I was originally interpreting as well.

 

[chubsANDdoggers]

It is flat with roughly rounded uneven edges prob by hand.

There is no practical way to machine a curved bottom on a handmill. ( not CNC)
Making the bottom flat is just logical for machining .

I don’t know machining so it’s great to learn what and why things are the way they are. Thanks!

 

[kpax]

Camera highlights and shadows play with our eyes. We need many different angles and lighting to figure out what's really going on.

Early on in this thread and development of the first DEC parts kit we were trying to figure out the bull barrel using very bad fuzzy images.

There was debate over the bottom of the bull barrel being flat or round. Could not really tell from the poor Q images. No images of the Stunt blasters were online yet and the definitive bottom image of the Stunt blaster was not yet known.

At the time I did not have an MGC or real Mauser to compare or build off of so I modeled a plan view of the assembly in 2d and Carson modeled the Mauser and barrel in 3d which showed the barrel bore relationship to the receiver was off center. Also showed that IF the bullbarrel was full round it would hang down below the receiver more, but we were not completely sure until I looked at how the c96 cycled and was disassembled.

In my experience with modern handguns, the slide is removed toward the front and the barrel is removed. The C96 upper is removed to the rear with a fixed barrel. This was key to determine WHY the bottom of the rifle barrel was flattened. It HAD to be in order to dissemble and maintain the gun.

All seems obvious NOW... but was a real question back then. Of course now better images are available that confirm all our conclusions.

 

[chubsANDdoggers]

Don’t forget perspective as well. I know when measuring from pictures you have to be wary of where things are within the picture itself. For example the mount, the legs and the rail. Each are out of scale if ur just using the picture itself without taking into consideration perspective.. ?

 

[kpax]

no doubt. 3d helps to make better comparisons for sure.

 

[deadbolt]

Don’t forget perspective as well. I know when measuring from pictures you have to be wary of where things are within the picture itself. For example the mount, the legs and the rail. Each are out of scale if ur just using the picture itself without taking into consideration perspective.. ?

Certainly! We have to keep in mind that the Mauser is the primary base to scale from, and the mount's crossbar is just that much closer towards the camera based on it's thickness and the spacers as well, as is the vertical of the mount on-top of it, then the cradle and scope especially are the closest in perspective. (All right-side view, of course)

I think the best way to scale, is to find the difference between the Mauser's scale vs. the Scope/Cradle, including the difference in the vertical difference and the cradle of the mount. That will define the difference between the perspectives and scale of the Hero's Mount the best we can from all of our available photographs.


-Carson

 

[chubsANDdoggers]

deadbolt 100%.. well none of this is actually 100 so maybe 99% then

I used the scope numbers to pull the numbers for the cradle. For the rail I pull numbers off a resin 1:1 Mauser made by Corellianexports I believe. That will line up each pretty accurately. For the uprights it’s a bit of a guessing game and finding something that falls in between each..

Thats obviously just for the numbers. Imagines, interpretation and having the luxury of following a path thats been blazed certain helps as well. I appreciate the insight and have been appreciating it for a long time now. Cheers fellas!

 

[Vanitas]

Went through another round of ghetto lathing this scope into submission... Had a bit of a scare when it rolled off my table and the very end dented on the concrete basement floor!

But I managed to hammer it back using a brass pendulum inserted in the scope. Thankfully that saved it!

Might try and give this scope one more polishing pass before bluing, we'll see.

 

[chubsANDdoggers]

 

[Vanitas]

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[Vanitas]

Was rewatching ANH again for a bit and I think I might have noticed something at the every end of the movie: both Luke and Han are wearing holsters for a gun on their hip, and BOTH of them seem to have some kind of blaster holstered.

I'm not sure f this has been noticed or not before, but if not—could Luke possibly have one of the 'backup' Hero firearms here? After all, Han's Hero blaster 'supposedly' had backups from Bapty (not just the castings). When watching the scene, it seems to have a very long barrel(?).

 

[The 48th Ronin]

I'm not sure f this has been noticed or not before, but if not—could Luke possibly have one of the 'backup' Hero firearms here? After all, Han's Hero blaster 'supposedly' had backups from Bapty (not just the castings). When watching the scene, it seems to have a very long barrel(?).

It's the "DDC Defender":

 

[thd9791]

Sorry I missed all this, busy day today. Yes, I made a rather detailed picture of all the matching gouges on the cradle only, it's pretty far back now, but it seems like the most that came of it was someone saying nothing matched.

I noticed the pawn stars cradle is missing material underneath which fits with that story...it doesn't sound like this whole thing is something people want to discuss though, after this many tries, so dont worry about it

 

[chubsANDdoggers]

thd9791 I remember ur post. Comparing the gouges. Looked very similar. But go back and look at the picture I posted on post #5216. It has been discussed. Just a red flag keeps appearing. Why are those parts different on the PS cradle to the actual hero’s? ?