ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion - Three ANH Greeblies Found

Yeah, the Merr Sonn's were cast from an earlier mold before the ESB/ROTJ stunt blasters. I wonder where those molds ended up over the years?..

Pat makes a good point that there may have been 'more' than just two lowers used between the Mausers used in R&H, The Sweeney, Merr Sonn, ANH Hero & the ESB/ROTJ stunts. Which are all confirmed to have the same upper, but surprisingly not the same lowers. As we all knew years ago, the Hero was obviously sporting a different lower than the others..except ESB/ROTJ castings.
I agree as well with the idea, it just took both of us a decade or more to realize it!

Cheers towards a great New Year, everyone!


-Carson
 
Tom, if it helps, the Merr-Sonn casts and the Muppet/Dagobah cast are from different molds entirely. The flash hider is rotated to different angles.
Totally. I meant the Muppet blaster itself: A cast of the hero gun during filming (not the older Merr-Sonn lower). I'm wondering if they glued the new greeblies on to mold it for ESB or if they'd already given it back... and glued greeblies to an existing resin cast and re-cast that
 
Going to be getting in contact with a local welding shop to inquire about adding a mig weld (Carson's Lump) on my Field Marshal ANH upper, wish me luck :)
This SW fanbase is so inspiring in its pursuit of perfection! I’m always chasing my tail myself so to speak as well with regards to this hero.. Currently reworking my scope wheel so its cosmetically more accurate. The top is still a work in progress..
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Looking good, man!! Did you manage to get access to a real scope too?


-Carson
Thanks. No I’ve never seen or touched a real scope but I don’t think one needs it to replicate it. Its a pretty straight forward recreation. It mostly just takes time, a good eye and some patience. For example all those circular knurlings from above.. each one was put in one at a time :oops:. (I’m still learning CAD and there is many ways to fillet a fish)

EDIT: fillets were added one at a time that is. Also that wheel also is far from done. It won’t be hallow and will “work” similar to how it should. Also need to rework the base as well a bit.
 
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I spoke to soon. Just realized I have that wheel at about .230 inches in hight and it’s about .020 short.. with all the cuts, fins & fillets added I can’t simply just add that extra .020. If anyone has a real one to correct me I’m all ears. Time to start over :sick:
 
I spoke to soon. Just realized I have that wheel at about .230 inches in hight and it’s about .020 short.. with all the cuts, fins & fillets added I can’t simply just add that extra .020. If anyone has a real one to correct me I’m all ears. Time to start over :sick:

Don't worry man, that's the majority of the fun!

I remember remodeling the Mount over 40 times, even from scratch right up until the Mega-Run was about to start..a better set of scans courtesy of kurtyboy of the chronicles photos gave me another reason to re-model it all over again at that point.. I enjoyed every second of it.

It turned out that this project wasn't at all about the destination, aka parts, but the journey for all of us, knowledge, fun, collaboration etc.. ;)

Keep at it buddy, you'll get it down in no time. Keep in mind that the knurl nubs are hex shaped too instead of round, it's hard to see in the photos.


P.S. If I remember right, the diameter of the scope's knob was also the same as the diameter of the scope itself, 22.3mm, I could be mistaken though...it's been a while, haha


-Carson
 
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Thanks much I appreciate the guidance. So ur saying the shape is actually a hexagon and not a circle?? I’ve been scouring the web trying to get a good clean look of all things hensoldt scope knobs related but it’s still to hard to truly see. I’ve gathered some pictures below..
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There's almost too many variations of the Hensoldt scopes of that era, haha

They varied their knurls quite a bit. In the photos you posted above as far as I can tell there's, round knurl staggered (top knob) straight knurl (bottom knob), round knurl staggered, straight knurl, round knurl staggered, diamond knurl, hex knurl (which is what the Hero has), and the bottom is another straight knurl.

It almost seems like the manufacture used whatever they could get their hands on that worked.. =b


-Carson
 
The 'Pawn' blaster also has a few moments where you can make out the scope's knurling, and while the base C96 is clearly not the same one used on the hero prop the scope is also widely believed to be the same one used on Han's blaster.

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Can anyone tell me if the Holes on the Fieldmarshal Mount are in the same place as DEC? Or just the measurement of the Fieldmarshal mount from mount hole to mount hole?
 
The hex-style knurl is somewhat visible here, in one of the pre-pro photos:
..hard to tell though for sure, now that I look at it.

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-Carson

So taking all this is mind. Knowing that there is multiple style knurling within these family of scopes this is the math I’ve conducted. I digress here for a second but as far as my eye can tell (and please correct me) I haven’t seen any Hensoldt scopes with a Hex (6 sided) knurling? Not that it doesn’t exist obviously I just haven’t seen it is all.

Personally I think the Hero looks similar to this wheel here except the top has 3 visible knurlings not 2..
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Let’s first look at the actual prop itself. When ever I try to replica these beautiful props I never start with real found parts. I always start with the film prop itself and work backwards. Real parts is great obviously but you can lose the Forrest for the trees. As deadbolt correctly stated there is so many variances so it can be very misleading and distracting. So back to the actual prop itself..
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It’s pretty clear that nothing is 100% here but starting with the fact that the knurling could look like any of these real scopes pictured below (minus as hexagon shape, only because I can’t find a real Hensoldt with it is all).
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This next leads me to the pawn stars blaster as Vanitas mentioned as well. It might provide some answers as the scope is believed to be the same one used in ANH. “Believed” is obviously a key word here..
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Here is a great shot of the knurling from the Pawn Stars scope. Here’s the possible red flag though. It has a visible serial number on the scope wheel base which isn’t visible on the film prop itself?? I did some overlays using this wheel and the film prop that follows. The knurling does seem to match up as well and maybe the possibility of the serial number does exist?
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Lastly using kpax replica comparison pictures I think his scope (it’s a real Hensoldt correct? - if it isn’t then disregard this) is the closest to the ANH hero. Except his only has 2 knurlings on the top part where it looks like the hero prop has 3 but his knurling does look circular?
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All this points me personally in the direction that it’s “around” 8 circular looking knurling marks on the diagonal. 5 on the bottom and 3 on the top? Again going back to using only the actual film prop itself and the best available pictures as a guild..
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So all this leads basically to a question. Is it possible that it’s made up from these two similar wheels? One from the top which as 3 knurled and one from the bottom which has 5? Although the knurling size doesn’t look to be that different (top/bottom) on the film prop itself as it does below which is a concern?
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For whatever its worth, Scott is 99% certain the 'Pawn' blaster's scope is the Hero's (just more weathered with time); and I know he has access to several private images of the thing from when it first surfaced some time ago. I trust his input on the matter a great deal, but that's just me.
 
I’m having some sort of déjà vu! Knurl. Knurl!

The Knurls keep in mind were “rolled” on the metal. This is why there is variation in how high or low the beads are on the disks. Some may take 3 rows. Others 2+.

Different manufacturers had different knurling tools available so some are round. Some are hex etc. some larger beads than others.

My scope is not real. It is a DEC that I customized a bit. The knurls are hex but with some “wear” they look rounded.
 
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