ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion - Three ANH Greeblies Found

I remembered the Sweeney, but couldn’t remember the Protectors. Lol. Randall and Hopkirk got glossed over completely, thanks for the refresher deadbolt.
 
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2nd is from: The Sweeney - Ep. 'Big Brother' (1975)
Note the Lump is visible, and the entire case setup is virtually identical to the set we see in the NR caps, although red lined, just not the same one.. So this appears to be the 2nd set made by Bapty that ended up as the ANH Hero's upper.
Thanks to Dpp1978 for the discovery and dcarty for the photos!

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-Carson


I don't remember if it has been noted elsewhere in this thread but I strongly suspect that the red lining in the case is spray painted. You can see a bit of a band around the edge where it looks to be the brown-gray color of the NR case as well as areas where the color isn't fully saturated into the fabric or has worn/flaked away. My guess is the director took a look at it and said "It'd look much cooler and register on camera better if it were red", lol.

So glad to see this thread still thrives :)

Dave C
 
Just these so far..
Note these were a few years 'before' Star Wars started production as well.

But very much likely to be the upper that became the ANH Hero's. Note the missing 'lock' on the barrel too that Pat kpax discovered too! So definitely the same configuration and basic setup as the NR Mauser, just a different/2nd one as far as we have been able to tell so far..

1st is from: Randall and Hopkirk (Deceased) - Ep.'Who Killed Cock Robin' (1969).
Note the serial on the upper, certainly the same, although we can't see the lump on the other side.. Thanks towards scottjua for the discovery, photos and noticing that the lock-assembly is likely the same..which is odd, since a lot of Mauser C96 parts aren't super interchangeable..?

But certainly not the same lower, just the Upper and lower internal assy, possibly.

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2nd is from: The Sweeney - Ep. 'Big Brother' (1975)
Note the Lump is visible, and the entire case setup is virtually identical to the set we see in the NR caps, although red lined, just not the same one.. So this appears to be the 2nd set made by Bapty that ended up as the ANH Hero's upper.
Thanks to Dpp1978 for the discovery and dcarty for the photos!

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-Carson
This is fantastic. I didn't realize such a high-res shot existed with matching serial numbers! I'm not well-memorized in everything in this ancient thread. The sweeny shot is interesting, looks like the barrel might be screwed on 1/4 short? I'm thinking thats the flat bottom on the side facing up.

Also, wondering if I can ask for a reminder about what carson's lump is, or what page it's on, if it's not too annoying

Does anyone know if those knurled knobs are countersunk or actually cone shaped on the back? What are the chances they just flipped them around for the ANH cross bar when they swapped lowers
 
Got it, thanks Vanitas and kpax

Didn't pick up that it was one side and not both *facepalm
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Not much to talk about, though I did get the right walnut grips in the mail today from Chris and OH MY GOSH they're so nice! They're SO much more comfortable than the cast grips that came with this, and I don't regret upgrading them in the slightest!

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I've also started work on finishing the scope mount after a LOT of smoothing out the cast steel bits, and ttied my hand at manually weathering the crossbar (in part because I wanted to try, but also because I'd like to do as much as I can myself before sending it off to Scott so I can save money haha)
 
I don't know if anybody has asked this before or not, but could these thumb knobs also be the same ones on the hero prop?

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I can't help but notice that they have the sane straight edge knurling pattern to them, though they do seem to have a concave surface.
 
Doubt they are the exact same ones but they certainly look to be taken from the same drawer of parts..

And Merry Christmas and happy holidays
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people.
 
Just these so far..
Note these were a few years 'before' Star Wars started production as well.

But very much likely to be the upper that became the ANH Hero's. Note the missing 'lock' on the barrel too that Pat kpax discovered too! So definitely the same configuration and basic setup as the NR Mauser, just a different/2nd one as far as we have been able to tell so far..

1st is from: Randall and Hopkirk (Deceased) - Ep.'Who Killed Cock Robin' (1969).
Note the serial on the upper, certainly the same, although we can't see the lump on the other side.. Thanks towards scottjua for the discovery, photos and noticing that the lock-assembly is likely the same..which is odd, since a lot of Mauser C96 parts aren't super interchangeable..?

But certainly not the same lower, just the Upper and lower internal assy, possibly.

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Merry Christmas!

I have never seen R&Hd or this close up from R&H before now. Must have missed it. As Carson said, no doubt the same upper with serial number. ! Nice confirmation.

What I notice here is the "gold-ish" brazing under the front scope disk mount.

I note that the claw mount front riser is curiously in the same location as the damaged left side rail in the postproduction images. I always thought there was some greeble thing glued there but.... maybe the damage was caused by the mount banging into it at some point as putting the scope on and off?

Did anyone else watch the episode of the Sweeney?
Weird. They show the guys driving and opening the gun case. Then show the guy holding the gun and pointing at camera. The close up Carson posted with the lump. Seems the upper is the same as the R&H gun. Same gun case in NR, Sweeney and HR too BTW.

After the shot of the guy aiming at the camera, they never show the gun being used or ever again in the episode! What happened?
Do they have a follow up episode? Doesn’t make sense they would tease the gun and possible murder and then not show anything.
Weird.
 
On the preproduction Babty photo of this blaster is the back thumb knob flipped to the front for the post production photo?
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On the preproduction Babty photo of this blaster is the back thumb knob flipped to the front for the post production photo?View attachment 1524162View attachment 1524163
The whole crossbar is flipped from to back on the post production.
If you look close you will notice that there is more material on the front end of the crossbar from the rod to edge than the back on the preproduction and vice versa.
 
The whole crossbar is flipped from to back on the post production.
If you look close you will notice that there is more material on the front end of the crossbar from the rod to edge than the back on the preproduction and vice versa.
Offset like this you mean? But I wasn’t sure if the screws were reused or not.
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Flipped like this you mean? But I wasn’t sure if the screws were reused or not View attachment 1524485
Yes. As for the nuts, I am sure they were taken on and off and reversed many times as the gun was cleaned etc. they seem to be the same to my eye but as they are blackened it’s hard to be 100% sure for both nuts.

Those scrapes and gouges on the crossbar are from the mount being slid back and forth as they removed it. The edges line up perfectly. That little center scrape in front of the mount is from the center thumb nut.
 
A bit more work on these bevels..

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I had to make a special jig in vice to hold the barrel in place, otherwise the bevels would have probably came out crooked and wavy. At this point I'm just nitpicking minor details myself since I don't have have else to do haha
 
mildly unrelated topic, just hit me, those greeblies on the muppet gun are part of the cast. Thinking back, is the consensus that they already had a "stunt" .... glued things to it... and molded the stunt to make a recast blaster body? The alternative would mean they were in possession of the original gun, temporarily glued stuff to it and molded it.

The scope and bracket I've always understood as a solution to using the original welded nuts on the side of the gun. but those greeblies are not added onto an existing cast... they're part of it
 
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