ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion - Three ANH Greeblies Found

[NickCline]

all genuine parts? so everything in those pictures are original real parts?!

Everything on the blaster is real, including the MG-81. But that one is strictly for display for obvious reasons.

The two unmounted flash hiders in the photos are DEC repos. One is steel for a more idealized look and the other is made from aluminum which is what I’ll use when take it to the range. Aluminum is lighter, so it helps the action cycle correctly and reliably.

 

[Frogfreak]

Everything on the blaster is real, including the MG-81. But that one is strictly for display for obvious reasons.

The two unmounted flash hiders shot are DEC repos. One is steel for a more idealized look and the other is made from aluminum which is what I’ll use when take it to the range. Aluminum is lighter, so it helps the action cycle correctly and reliably.

that's awesome! i hope you'll have fun with it!

 

[Halliwax]

*pew pew*

Broke down finally and got everything I need to hit up the range. Long overdue.

Build by scottjua using all genuine parts.

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This is legendary

 

[Frogfreak]

This is legendary

i agree 100%

 

[H0llyw00d]

Everything on the blaster is real, including the MG-81. But that one is strictly for display for obvious reasons.

The two unmounted flash hiders in the photos are DEC repos. One is steel for a more idealized look and the other is made from aluminum which is what I’ll use when take it to the range. Aluminum is lighter, so it helps the action cycle correctly and reliably.

Beautiful build, brother! If that is the battlefield salvage FH that was up on ebay a year or so ago you got a helluva good price on it and made the absolute perfect home for it.

 

[deadbolt]

Now all we need to do (part wise) is to identify that damn mysterious scope mount...

Nice build there, Nick


-Carson

 

[eethan]

yeah! sorry I'm didn't take part in this subject before and I might be totally off topic, but that last message reminds me that I once found that picture and I though, Holy ****, the scope mount could be a real part!

 

[Garrett Smith]

On the FM scopes. What are people using in terms of glass. Are you putting the concave one first then flat with the sticker or just the flat one???

 

[deadbolt]

It's hard to say for sure, but like I've said in the past, I somehow doubt that mount was made by Bapty.. It is possible of course that they did, but basing on mounts they've made for other films/shows (Naked Runner, The Man From U.N.C.L.E., etc.) I still think this mount was a found part, obviously very rare if so, but still a tad past how far I feel Bapty would go just for some random Oliver Reed film.

I have my fingers crossed and I still believe that type of mount is out there somewhere...Remember, almost all of us thought at one point that the flash-hider was a fire extinguisher nozzle for several years, well before it was identified as an MG81 flash hider. =b


-Carson

 

[thd9791]

Here's a question - (using the logic I've been using to ID lightsaber parts, etc.) the mount above in post #4347 obviously has a bracket that would mount on top of something and lock onto the right side.

The ANH mount seems to only have a dovetail slot - are we literally looking for rifles with a simple dovetail bar on the side?

 

[Dann]

Well, the dovetail was likely another part that mounted to the rifle/pistol, not a part that was part of an original rifle.

Basically, you'd drill and tap the receiver, then add your dovetail, then the rest of the scope mount.

I doubt you'll find a rifle that was shipped from the factory with a dovetail on the side (maybe an AK or SKS type of thing), but stranger things have happened.

 

[H0llyw00d]

It's generally accepted that the scope mount was custom made for the '67 film "The Naked Runner" with Frank Sinatra.

 

[H0llyw00d]

Then it was used in "Sitting Target" in '72.

 

[H0llyw00d]

The upper and mount from "The Naked Runner" was paired with the scope from "Sitting Target" and added to a new lower on the right side to facilitate the use of a holster and voila:

 

[Gerard2567]

Lol, no need to repost the discoveries made in this very thread.

 

[deadbolt]

Actually, the mount used in 'The Naked Runner' was fairly basic/simple in design for the most part, most definitely not the same mount that was used in 'Sitting Target' which was also later on the ANH Hero blaster (See photo below)

The issue with the ANH Hero's mount is not just it's complexity for such a minor film (no offense to Oliver Reed and the filmmaker..=P), but also the design alone. From the dovetail outward away from the firearm, it doesn't overhang above the center of whichever firearm that it could be mounted to, instead it hangs outward in the opposite direction which doesn't make much sense for a scope mount for a gun at all..it would only throw off the accuracy that much more to whichever side the mount is attached to..

I've thought about it 'maybe' being a mount for a bow or some other sort of weapon, other than a standard rifle or pistol because the design just doesn't make any sense. So it's possible that the outward offset of the mount was meant for something else entirely, maybe even a spotting scope of some sort, kinda like the tank scopes that were used for ESB and ROTJ for example. But that's all just pure speculation.

Also keep in mind that the mount was apparently made for a 22.3mm scope of some sort, so very likely to be European/German basing on the cradle and ring sizes. So overall...For a lack of better words, I don't know where to even start looking aside for just scope mounts in general, from firearms to the extreme even.

'The Naked Runner' Photo courtesy of Pat (kpax)


-Carson

 

[thd9791]

From the dovetail outward away from the firearm, it doesn't overhang above the center of whichever firearm that it could be mounted to, instead it hangs outward in the opposite direction which doesn't make much sense for a scope mount for a gun at all..it would only throw off the accuracy that much more to whichever side the mount is attached to..

I've thought about it 'maybe' being a mount for a bow or some other sort of weapon, other than a standard rifle or pistol because the design just doesn't make any sense. So it's possible that the outward offset of the mount was meant for something else entirely, maybe even a spotting scope of some sort

-Carson

Thank you for this - that's the discussion I was hoping to start/continue. Both of these movies feature a mount on the inside of your body, hanging toward your face at least. And it may be impossible to know, but if the cradle is meant to bracket around the knob, something forward sitting. This is a lot to think about... you're right, where have you started in all these years?

 

[deadbolt]

Pretty much within the first few months or so after the time this thread/project started, roughly. Both Pat and I (as well as many others over the years) had exhausted every possible detail in the available reference material that is currently public..and still no real answers as to the details behind the Scope Mount especially, a total mystery really. There is the possibility that Bapty made it and it's one of a kind (though fairly doubtful), but the possibility also exists that it's a pre-existing mount that's just simply extremely rare, like most of the 'found' parts used in SW.

Just like the Mystery Disk and Barrel Greeblie as well, without better reference photos we may never know the truth behind those puzzles either. The photos are just too bleak and open to too many possibilities to really come to a factual conclusion, unfortunately..


-Carson

 

[Davy Jones]

The Mystery disk definitely isn't a milled out circle like I've seen some do. It hurts my heart to see that happen to Mausers and replicas alike.
I believe strongly that its just an absence of paint where a greeblie was removed.

 

[deadbolt]

I Agree completely as far as the Mausers go. That's why I would really love to see a well made, decent replica of the Mauser C96 (With the ANH Lump!) that's available for people to make accurate replicas from without destroying historical firearms over and over like some have done over the years, it certainly does hurt to see that done to so many historical WW1 relics, undoubtedly.


-Carson