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    Jul 8, 2011, 10:01 PM - Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion #551

    Does anyone know anything about the UK show "The Protectors". Seems the NR SW may have been used in the show.

    Sorry if it has been asked before.

    Any results? Pics?

    Counting on the Brits...
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    Jul 10, 2011, 10:42 AM - Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion #552

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    Jul 10, 2011, 11:19 AM - Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion #553

    ...Speaking of the Grill, now that you mention it, Has it ever bothered anyone else that the Grill doesn't seem quite straight, like it has been depicted in all the models and images. I know it is most likely plastic and sloppily applied on the HERO with residue and all, but if you look real close, and straighten out the pics and make then as square as possible, you will notice that the Grill fins are not straight even, parallel rings at all.

    As discovered by participants of this thread a little while back and never before depicted on any MR or replica blaseters, the bottom fin of the grill is cut off in the front to allow it to fit over the Mag bump at the bottom of the frame.

    In addition, I would like to propose that the entire grill, is not made up of straight even rings as on the MR, but that the top 1/3 set of rings is actually tapered back, being smaller at the top, which some others RPF members have noted.

    I propose that that the CENTER and LOWER section ring sets are vertically flipped versions of the TOP section and taper down from larger to smaller as shown in the drawings below. I know it has been said that the parts were from a model plane engine etc. ant put together like this.

    The only real point I am making is that I don't think the rings are straight, but are tapered as shown below.

    (unless this has been discussed and found before in which case... never mind)

    I kept checking because they just don't look straight in the HERO shot and actually look like the grill bulges in the middle but this is due to the overall OD lines at the heave joining rings I think.

    Just thought I'd through a little monkey in the wrench for you guys to ponder.

    Let me know what you think.

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    Jul 10, 2011, 11:44 AM - Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion #554

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    Jul 10, 2011, 1:16 PM - Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion #555

    I like wonky plastic!

    I had noticed that the grill was made up of three parts but I hadn't noticed one was flipped upside down. Well spotted, guys.
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    Jul 10, 2011, 1:19 PM - Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion #556

    Lonepigeon, does the fin size and spacing match the Merr Sonn parts?
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    Jul 10, 2011, 2:26 PM - Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion #557

    Heres what I have on the Merr Sonn images

    These parts look like they could be the same.

    I can't quite rationalize the ring fins which look very regular on the ANH HERO and on the Merr Sonn until you line it up.

    The profile of the fins don't look it... but could these be threads of some sort?

    It is hard to visualize the twist of threads if there is any but look at the area where the rings come together.

    I'm confused.

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    Jul 10, 2011, 2:38 PM - Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion #558

    No, they're definitely not threads. The rings/fins are all parallel. They're just warped in that area. Maybe a felxible plastic or just damaged.

    There is
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    Heres what I have on the Merr Sonn images

    These parts look like they could be the same.

    I can't quite rationalize the ring fins which look very regular on the ANH HERO and on the Merr Sonn until you line it up.

    The profile of the fins don't look it... but could these be threads of some sort?

    It is hard to visualize the twist of threads if there is any but look at the area where the rings come together.

    I'm confused.

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    Jul 10, 2011, 2:51 PM - Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion #559

    I see your point the fins to the left are all kinda bent to the right.
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    Jul 10, 2011, 3:10 PM - Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion #560

    so if the longer - straighter section was available as seen in the middle section of the Merr-Sonn... why didn't they use it on the Solo HERO. The sections are defiantly separated by those other thicker rings.


    take a look;

    rings still look askew a bit but line up fairly well. I sized each hero as close as I could.

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    Jul 10, 2011, 3:15 PM - Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion #561

    When I was at MR, Jason Joyner, who owns a number of original SW props, told me that they are "plumbing adapter" parts that are stacked together to make the longer pieces we see.

    He said the fins are soft plastic to fit into the ID of pipes.

    I am not saying that is right or wrong, so don't attack me. I am just passing on what I was told. FYI.

    I dunno.
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    Jul 10, 2011, 3:21 PM - Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion #562

    are we sure they are not threads? Maybe just sloppy fitting.

    Sure they never figured anyone would be looking so close!

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    Jul 10, 2011, 3:33 PM - Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion #563

    SD Studios said: View Post
    When I was at MR, Jason Joyner, who owns a number of original SW props, told me that they are "plumbing adapter" parts that are stacked together to make the longer pieces we see.

    He said the fins are soft plastic to fit into the ID of pipes.

    I am not saying that is right or wrong, so don't attack me. I am just passing on what I was told. FYI.

    I dunno.
    Very well could be former Qmx steve. Wish we could find some, although I personally don't want it on my model, but would be great to know the accurate size.

    Thanks for the input!
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    Jul 10, 2011, 6:10 PM - Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion #564

    Very nice observation Pat! It certainly appears to be two larger tapered pieces with a smaller, more tapered piece on top as you show. I remember it being brought up a long time ago about it being 3 pieces, but I never realized the taper to the lower pieces.

    I think the threaded look to it may just be because the lower pieces are tapered and the bottom piece is tipped to where it looks untapered, leaving the fins angled kinda like threading.

    -Carson
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    Jul 10, 2011, 6:42 PM - Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion #565

    Yes, they are not threads. The bottom one is just slanted.
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    Jul 10, 2011, 6:53 PM - Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion #566

    I am of course assuming that it's the same piece that's on the Merr Sonn. As you can see, those are definitely not threads. And they are not pointed fins either but square cut and flat on top.

    It's an odd looking plumbing piece that's for sure!

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    Jul 10, 2011, 7:37 PM - Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion #567

    Hmmmm.....

    Plumbing adapters:




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    Jul 10, 2011, 7:56 PM - Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion #568

    Now that I look at the Merr Son's grill pieces, I do see a possible slant to those fins as well. The bottom edge of the small un-finned area doesn't match the fins angle. Hard to say for sure, the bottom could of just been cut off crooked or something instead.

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    Jul 10, 2011, 8:05 PM - Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion #569

    SD Studios said: View Post
    When I was at MR, Jason Joyner, who owns a number of original SW props, told me that they are "plumbing adapter" parts that are stacked together to make the longer pieces we see.

    He said the fins are soft plastic to fit into the ID of pipes.

    I am not saying that is right or wrong, so don't attack me. I am just passing on what I was told. FYI.

    I dunno.

    Thanks for the tip, Steve! Anybody know someone with knowledge of vintage plumbing parts? You never know, we may get lucky.

    -Carson
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    Jul 10, 2011, 9:14 PM - Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion #570

    Wow Kurty! That is a much nicer shot than I had to work with! Do you have the whole section? Whole pic? Any other shots including these elements?

    Really good discussion. You can see how flat the fins are from that shot.

    The lower piece may indeed have been just cut anf=d glued sloppy and at an angle. That fuzzy pic makes it hard to tell. Anyone have any better?

    Now what to do. If it is agreed that the HERO has these tapered parts as depicted, how do we feel about that? Do you all agree that the HERO, forgeting what it really is and going just by what it looks like, has the TOP section tapered towards the top and the center and bottom section tapered toward the bottom?

    Looks like Deadbolt has his work cut out for him.

    The size, funny enough is just about the diameter of the booster or the diameter to fit just inside the FH.



    kurtyboy said: View Post
    I am of course assuming that it's the same piece that's on the Merr Sonn. As you can see, those are definitely not threads. And they are not pointed fins either but square cut and flat on top.

    It's an odd looking plumbing piece that's for sure!

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    Jul 10, 2011, 10:03 PM - Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion #571

    Take a look and tell me what you guys see..




    Threaded Insert, Threaded Inserts, Plastic Insert - Component Force - UK

    It's not the same but it's clearly very similar, and it comes in a bunch of different sizes.

    -Carson
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    Jul 10, 2011, 11:07 PM - Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion #572

    getting closer...

    nice find carson
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    Jul 10, 2011, 11:41 PM - Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion #573





    going off of Carsons lead - Still not quite right. Only problem here is the profile of the fins... maybe in 1977 they were blunt on the edge.

    note the angled rings like the hero I posted. curious.
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    Jul 11, 2011, 12:29 AM - Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion #574

    Even closer, nice job! I still haven't found a match yet either. I could definitely see the ANH prop guys having a box of something like this laying around, considering their reputation for using common pieces like this one.


    The First post has been updated with Pictures of the Finished Flash Hider

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    Jul 11, 2011, 12:47 AM - Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion #575

    That's one sweet lookin FH! Great job Carson.

    I hope Kurty or someone else has some more better pics.

    I was searching tube connectors, ribbed tube connectors etc.



    May be on the right track.

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