AND yet ANOTHER BTTF question...

[Jedifyfe]

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I'm sorry, but this is why I don't like these movies anymore, the timetravel concept is wrong and along the lines of the lame time travel concept in the Lost In Space Movie, so damn wrong and annoying

Really? You hate these movies because they didn't cover every angle of time travel perfectly? You realize these are tongue in cheek movies right?

I actually like that these are so inaccurate. It makes the suspense of disbelief that much easier. But to each his/her own.

 

[Moviefreak]

Really? You hate these movies because they didn't cover every angle of time travel perfectly? You realize these are tongue in cheek movies right?

I actually like that these are so inaccurate. It makes the suspense of disbelief that much easier. But to each his/her own.

:lol I hope he was being sarcastic :lol

 

[Jedifyfe]

:lol I hope he was being sarcastic :lol

Not sure. I mean he DOES like the Harry Potter films...sick

 

[Roland]

... Here is another question:

In BTTF when Doc asks to see the photo of Marty's family, wouldn't the entire photo disappear, not just the people? If they were truly being erased from existence then that photo never would've taken place. Right?

Don't forget the "ripple effect". That's the only answer you need.

... Congratulations to J.K. Rowling for the only successfully written time travel concept I've seen so far.:thumbsup ...

Yes, part three is my favorite Potter. I like time travel stories. But if you want to see a movie with a really logical time travel concept, you have to watch this one:

 

[Roland]

Not sure. I mean he DOES like the Harry Potter films...sick

How can you know that he talked about the movies? They could really be better. But the books are great.

 

[Jehudah Design]

I just want to tell you both, good luck, we're all counting on you.

 

[Too Much Garlic]

Congratulations to J.K. Rowling for the only successfully written time travel concept I've seen so far.:thumbsup

Watch The Terminator (not the sequels) & Twelve Monkeys. Have the same "locked in place" timeline time travel concept.

...I met your father because my father hit him with his car, but then I didn't meet your father that way because my son travelled back in time and got hit by my father's car instead, but somehow that first thing and that second thing happened at the same time because of the stupid excuse called alternate timelines...

That one can easily be explained by the parents not wanting to go into the whole menage a trois with Calvin (Marty in '55). Remember, Lorraine also doesn't tell the truth about how she was a boy chaser when she was young.

However... with the other alternate time line events that happen in the movie... it can go either way.

 

[Vivek]

Time Travel is all theoretical, we in our current technologically advanced status have not yet openly witnessed the effects of time travel. Though we can argue endlessly how things would occur with time travel and its aftermath, there is no way to prove if any of the theories is indeed correct or wrong.

Of course it's always fun to analyze, that's one of the things that's so appealing about time travel in fiction, the endless discussion about the implications of time travel. Movies and other works of fiction establish their own rules of time travel and they try to stick by their rules (yes, some better than others), still they may not necessarily always conform to the audience's interpretation of how time travel should work and what rules it needs to abide by.

Too bad these reasons might be preventing people from enjoying the BTTF movies.

Don't forget the "ripple effect". That's the only answer you need.

And Roland brought an excellent factor which many forget while discussing time travel theories in the BTTF movies. In the BTTF universe, lot of the cause and effect can be attributed to the ripple effect still catching up.

And I will just re-iterate about I keep posting in most of these BTTF threads.

Every plot hole in the BTTF trilogy put forward by fans have been explained by other fans countless times with various theories. But those theories are based on rules which were derived upon through the scenarios in the movies. Of course since there is no actual proof to witness the effects of time travel, there is no way to accept nor deny those theories. But I still believe that there are really no plot holes in the BTTF movies, people just need to be thinking fourth dimensionally.. a lot.

 

[bleyd]

Time travel holes or not. Ya gotta admit a time machine out of a Delorean? Pretty darn cool. Like Doc said if you're gonna make a time machine out of a car why not do it in style? Most people seek that car out because of the movies and I'm sure is why it's coming back again.

 

[Contec]

Time travel holes or not. Ya gotta admit a time machine out of a Delorean? Pretty darn cool. Like Doc said if you're gonna make a time machine out of a car why not do it in style? Most people seek that car out because of the movies and I'm sure is why it's coming back again.

It's better than using a time traveling fridge at a atomic bomb test-field that they had in the first script.


Who knows what kind of movie we would have gotten ......

 

[Michael Bergeron]

Time travel doesn't exist yet (if ever). Nobody knows how it works so for someone to say "they got time travel wrong" is ludicrous.

 

[Contec]

Time travel doesn't exist yet (if ever). Nobody knows how it works so for someone to say "they got time travel wrong" is ludicrous.

Tell that to the time traveling lady with a cellphone.

 

[Jehudah Design]

I just want to tell you both, good luck, we're all counting on you.

 

[Vivek]

Take the Twin Pine/Lone Pine Mall incident for example. First it's called Twin Pine before Marty goes back in time and runs over a pine tree, changing the sign to Lone Pine in the future, but here's the catch boys and girls - What happened in the 50's was that one of the pines got run over, meaning that in 1985 the sign should have said Lone Pine to begin with, not the obvious plot hole setup that two different things can happen at the same time just because the main character takes a backwards trip, it just wouldn't work that way, just like my example with the fading photo - Marty succeeded in the end anyway, so the photo from 1985 should NEVER have faded at all.

In relation to time travel in the BTTF universe, I am not sure if you're aware of the ripple effect theory that was suggested by Bob Gale and Robert Zemeckis, it can shed light on this subject and help realize why those scenarios you mentioned still works.

Back to the Future™ Frequently Asked Questions
I would request you to read through the above FAQ as it helps viewers understand the time travel rules and theories as setup by the creators.

 

[Frank]

Congratulations to J.K. Rowling for the only successfully written time travel concept I've seen so far.:thumbsup


---Just hate me all you want for being smart enough to realize it:behave

yea, using it as a deus ex machina on one book and then never mentioning it again :rolleyes

 

[Contec]

Take the Twin Pine/Lone Pine Mall incident for example. First it's called Twin Pine before Marty goes back in time and runs over a pine tree, changing the sign to Lone Pine in the future, but here's the catch boys and girls - What happened in the 50's was that one of the pines got run over, meaning that in 1985 the sign should have said Lone Pine to begin with, not the obvious plot hole setup that two different things can happen at the same time just because the main character takes a backwards trip,


And to make myself even more hated and sound like a self-centered smart ass, I was tested one morning when I was really tired to be smarter than 99,9% of everyone else in Norway because, surprise everybody, there's a condition that made all the geniuses through time as smart as they were, so I'm well capable of overthinking this series as wrong just by logic alone.

Enjoy.

You do know that Marty traveled to an alternate Universe, than the one he came from right? He never came back to his real universe.

Universe A : Twin pine mall /Doc Shot and killed, Martys parents and brother/sister are fat,ugly and unsuccessful ...

Universe B
Lone Pine Mall / Doc Shot but survives, Marty's parents and brother/sister are better looking, successful...

"fourth dimensional thinking"

 

[Roland]

@Jehudah Design

If you allow the possibility of creating parallel universes, each time when the time traveller changed something in the past, then each time travel concept becomes logical.

 

[Vivek]

The whole skewed timeline explanation by Doc seems more likely for Marty's better understanding and for the viewer ourselves. There are no multiple timelines in the BTTF Universe. Any changes in the past, replaces the old timeline with a new history. And those changes in history will catch up to people living in the present or future slowly through the ripple effect, including time travelers. But maybe a little late for time travelers as they are not in the linear timeline.

 

[Jehudah Design]

I just want to tell you both, good luck, we're all counting on you.

 

[Michael Bergeron]

Ya, I hate Star Wars because lightsabers aren't logical... :rolleyes