Alleged Screen Used Hero TOS Phaser up for auction (now the aftermath)
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JPH
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Ha!! It happened RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU
Magic in PLAIN SIGHT!
Yoda even knew! In an incredible marketing maneuver with Lucas Film, they arrange this scene where Yoda says, "there is another surprisingly refreshing bevergae from the CocaCola Company."
It was BOLD, it was BRILLIANT, and I am gonna make a killing hocking this swill ...er, fine, gentle beverage to the HIGHEST bidder!
**Wrings hands***
Mwahahaha!!!
robn1
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New Coke was fake, it only existed to distract from the sweetener change.
It's not a conspiracy theory, it's a conspiracy.
JPH
Sr Member
this isn't SPAM were talking about!!!
Cherry Coke, Diet coke, all OUTLIERS!!!
You know dern well there are only THREE Cokes!
Stop tryin to burst my bubble, man!
Buh-loody Vikings!
Personally, I find what's going on here quite interesting. Mind you, I am not out to deliberately embarrass anyone on here but I find some of these comments patently absurd.
You are all behaving as if these things weren't "work-a-day film sodas" that were written-off (as accounts see things) or "consumed" during drinking. At the time these things were never religious Icons of any sort. One MUST keep in mind, these were used and greatly abused during the eating of an original lunch. Have any of you ever worked on so much as one actual "Atlanta" production?
That said, by your own comments, it appears you are all experts, (and that's despite one claim to the contrary) why is it then that Heritage Auctions did not ask any of you to in come and give your opinions as to the authenticity?
----Are any of you aware of just who it was that they did ask to do this verification, and provide truly genuine expert authentication?
To further explain what I am postulating:
1) None of you noticed both grips are made entirely from glass, with the correct bottlecaps on both ends for conversion to the new recipe. Were any of you aware of that tid-bit prior to the announcement of this new Coke?
2) Not one of you noticed under that early-on shooting schedule repaint into red, the initial white paint appears where there are letters.
3) It feels as though you guys have a tough time accepting the reality of/with the final appearance and genuine crudity of that period's Coke bottles.
Perhaps most important:
I get a distinct feeling that you guys have some deep seated fear, that according multiple known and true expert opinion(s) of those retained by the (not in-expert) people themselves at Heritage Auctions, and after lengthy physical examination that this actually is a genuine, Coca-Cola Classic bottle.
Are any of you considering the source of your own skepticism? Could this be due to the fact that the reality of this situation is the hammer conspiracy of this "item" in all probability will be greater than each of your total self-worth? And therefore, not one of you will be the one to ultimately own this Coke bottle?
As all of you would say: I'm just saying....
You are all behaving as if these things weren't "work-a-day film sodas" that were written-off (as accounts see things) or "consumed" during drinking. At the time these things were never religious Icons of any sort. One MUST keep in mind, these were used and greatly abused during the eating of an original lunch. Have any of you ever worked on so much as one actual "Atlanta" production?
That said, by your own comments, it appears you are all experts, (and that's despite one claim to the contrary) why is it then that Heritage Auctions did not ask any of you to in come and give your opinions as to the authenticity?
----Are any of you aware of just who it was that they did ask to do this verification, and provide truly genuine expert authentication?
To further explain what I am postulating:
1) None of you noticed both grips are made entirely from glass, with the correct bottlecaps on both ends for conversion to the new recipe. Were any of you aware of that tid-bit prior to the announcement of this new Coke?
2) Not one of you noticed under that early-on shooting schedule repaint into red, the initial white paint appears where there are letters.
3) It feels as though you guys have a tough time accepting the reality of/with the final appearance and genuine crudity of that period's Coke bottles.
Perhaps most important:
I get a distinct feeling that you guys have some deep seated fear, that according multiple known and true expert opinion(s) of those retained by the (not in-expert) people themselves at Heritage Auctions, and after lengthy physical examination that this actually is a genuine, Coca-Cola Classic bottle.
Are any of you considering the source of your own skepticism? Could this be due to the fact that the reality of this situation is the hammer conspiracy of this "item" in all probability will be greater than each of your total self-worth? And therefore, not one of you will be the one to ultimately own this Coke bottle?
As all of you would say: I'm just saying....
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JPH
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And so it begins...
Searching for the weakness in the armour, anyway to disprove the third Coke story and deprive me of my riches.
Well, I will have you allllllknow that the bidding is well into the over-37-cents range, so, you envious scoundrels are just gonna hafta deal with my newly deserved wealth... HA!
I wonder how many private jets I can get for THIREEE-SEVEN CENTAREENOS!!!
Oh! Is that crying I hear?
I wonder how many noise cancelling headsets I can get with ten times THREE PLUS SEVEN copper Lincolns.
Whoooosh!!!
Searching for the weakness in the armour, anyway to disprove the third Coke story and deprive me of my riches.
Well, I will have you allllllknow that the bidding is well into the over-37-cents range, so, you envious scoundrels are just gonna hafta deal with my newly deserved wealth... HA!
I wonder how many private jets I can get for THIREEE-SEVEN CENTAREENOS!!!
Oh! Is that crying I hear?
I wonder how many noise cancelling headsets I can get with ten times THREE PLUS SEVEN copper Lincolns.
Whoooosh!!!
Four cokes, then. Because indeed, each of those four has different ingredients. Coke with cocaine in it again, would sell if cocaine ever becomes legal again. (Yes, kiddies, selling cocaine was once LEGAL)
<CLICK THIS LINK> Yoda
That's my voice dubbed over a video I grabbed off YouTube. I bet I could get even better at Yoda if I practiced.
USS Endeav
Sr Member
Very convincing!Four cokes, then. Because indeed, each of those four has different ingredients. Coke with cocaine in it again, would sell if cocaine ever becomes legal again. (Yes, kiddies, selling cocaine was once LEGAL)
<CLICK THIS LINK> Yoda
That's my voice dubbed over a video I grabbed off YouTube. I bet I could get even better at Yoda if I practiced.
So it's probably a fake.
No electronic manipulation. I just used the mic on my webcam to record my voice and Adobe Premier to align the audio with video.
I didn't even edit the video, only the audio to align with the mouth movements.
If someone is a animator and wants to do some fan-fiction cartoons, I can voice Yoda for you! I think that would be cool to see my name in the credits as Yoda.
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JPH
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Well, I'm NOT Frank OZ, (spoilers, sorry!) so yes, it is fake Yoda. But it is a real dubbed voice, so not fake as in simulated in any way....but if Yoda is saying something that Yoda wouldn't say...then back to fake. I have trouble if something is both literal and not literal at the same time.
JPH
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PicasoX
Sr Member
Not saying I think its real but I wouldn't mind having it either way.
I don't see how comparing it to known original and pointing out the differences disproves anything.
These were hand made, they didn't come from cookie cutters.
It's perfectly logical to assume that each one would have it's own differences.
I don't see how comparing it to known original and pointing out the differences disproves anything.
These were hand made, they didn't come from cookie cutters.
It's perfectly logical to assume that each one would have it's own differences.
feek61
Sr Member
Except we know that most likely all of the production phasers came from a mold from a single master and this HA phaser is the only phaser body that does not match with every other known, confirmed original phaser. I have no doubt that it is a fake.
USS Endeav
Sr Member
I'm going to be less polite than my compatriot Feek and just come out and say what everyone is thinking....
Are you nuckin futz?
I want to win the Lotto, so I can make an offer to OWN this phaser.
I already did a quick google search to find a lab, where you can send objects to, and have them do all kinds of extreme analysis on the object(s) to determine their composition.
I am beyond certain that if the components of this phaser are scientifically checked out, that at least some of the components will prove to NOT have existed in the ratio of this phaser in the 60's. Meaning that the composition of the elements will prove that this is a modern replica. Not vintage.
P.S. Paintings are one of a kind, but a painting that has nothing in COMMON with a Picasso painting because of all the observable differences, should not be claimed to still be a Picasso based on the idea that all-paintings-are-unique.
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