Alleged Screen Used Hero TOS Phaser up for auction (now the aftermath)

[ghostryder]

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[JMSupp]

Ummmm.... Question. I thought Greg Jein owned the Epsilon and Zeta communicators. The one shown above doesn't really match either, it's closer to the Theta phaser, with the red jewel in the leftmost position.

Is there an 11th phaser?

 

[Leinads]

Unreal

 

[NitramS]

Can someone provide context to the above post?

 

[Captain Dunsel]

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Woah…if the Jein estate is selling these pieces, this is huge.

- The Tricorder is the only—known—Wah Chang Hero Tricorder (the blue watch crowns version) to still be in existence.

- The Phaser II appears to be the famous Greg Jein Hero.

- The communicator I have never see before. If that is a screen-used comm, it could be a previously undocumented one.

 

[Captain Dunsel]

Wow—the Jein Cage Laser too…

If these pieces are up for auction, you are going to see some record-level bids for franchise props sold at auction.

 

[Captain Dunsel]

You know…is that communicator Zeta, but fully assembled and with the indicator jewel hubs rearranged?


Zeta (still in its dissembled state and temporarily assembled for the photo):

The auction communicator:

 

[Apollo]

It was only a matter of time before Gregs collection went up for sale.

All of us owe him a HUGE debt which can never be repaid to him

 

[Gregatron]

You know…is that communicator Zeta, but fully assembled and with the indicator jewels rearranged?


Zeta (still in its dissembled state and temporarily assembled for the photo):

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The auction communicator:

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Looks that way.

 

[Lightning]

You know…is that communicator Zeta, but fully assembled and with the indicator jewels rearranged?


Zeta (still in its dissembled state and temporarily assembled for the photo):

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The auction communicator:

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I think you might be right, the solder joints on the grill edge match

 

[Gregatron]

It was only a matter of time before Gregs collection went up for sale.

All of us owe him a HUGE debt which can never be repaid to him

No kidding.

I'd like to reiterate that Mr. Jein's "authentication" of the PiH "hero phaser" was a lot less ironclad than it was made out to be. He was quoted as saying, "If it's a fake, then it's the best I've ever seen".

And also that I never heard a single negative comment about him from insiders during that fiasco.

 

[Captain Dunsel]

I think you might be right, the solder joints on the grill edge match

I was excited, for a minute, that a previously undocumented screen-used comm had been discovered. Darn.

Yeah, the more I stare at the details, the more it seems to match Zeta.

I’m just not sure what they did with these indicator hubs. They clearly aren’t the same hubs.

Zeta hubs (maybe these were placeholder hubs for the photos—the comm was still in its dissembled state when the photos were taken):

These two auction comm hubs are completely different, though clearly vintage (maybe these were the actual original indicator hubs that were stored with the radio grille and Velcro? I recall that Herocomm said that these items were stored elsewhere when they snapped photos of the communicator)

 

[JMSupp]

I'm on board with it being a reassembled Zeta, with a few issues. A lot of the wear details matchup to the photos on HeroComm (Glad its back up!).

The replaced hubs are not ideal, but what can you do?

 

[asalaw]

I'm gobsmacked. The billionaires are going to swarm all over this.

 

[Gregatron]

It’s quite refreshing to see ACTUAL props from the show going up for auction.

I can’t even begin to imagine how much these will sell for. Priceless artifacts with solid provenance.

 

[joberg]

I'm gobsmacked

 

[Captain Dunsel]

I'm gobsmacked. The billionaires are going to swarm all over this.

Yeah, the TMP Enterprise miniature, currently displayed at Blue Origin, may end up with some company displayed next to it…

Hopefully, with some glass around these items, though….

Otherwise, these items are likely to disappear from public view, which is sad.

 

[ghostryder]

I know this is only tangentially related, but was this follow-up video (not the original) about Heritage and video game grading posted?

 

[joberg]

I know this is only tangentially related, but was this follow-up video (not the original) about Heritage and video game grading posted?

It's been posted before... A reminder for the folks who missed it the first time.

 

[AdmiralBaxter]

As I speculated (in post 1774), it sounds exactly like Jon Paul. He sells a bunch of stuff on eBay and has burned many bridges. I would never do business with him nor pay any attention to his assertations. I suspected he was involved in the fraud phaser when it first appeared as it looked to have his nozzle and other parts on it.

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No, thats not Jon Paul as he has no interest in anything other than TOS props.

I have done business with him for parts as they are quite nice.

The phaser does have one of his early adjustable barrels...

I can state for certain he doesn't have the skill to do the type of aging involved on the fraud phaser. I know several people who own some of his "museum quality replicas" and let's just say R. Shanko does much better work...

With RJS & JPL both producing such convincing replicas it sure murkies the waters.

RJS does far better mids than JPL's which tend to be a lighter grey on the P2 as he tends to prefer the mid's that were painted like the crap's early on in season 2

Are there any parts on this one that identify themselves as replica? Is there anything that connects this phaser to the Heritage one originally discussed in this thread?

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The ten turn is a JPL as is the "crispy" and the acrylic emitter....

That's a good question. I'm not intimately versed with Shanko or the history of his kits.

In some of my conversations with Ron on FB he stated he got to examine and take detailed measurements and notes on the West Coast Collectors.

Here is a picture of one I own that was made by him: