ALIEN (1979) motion tracker questions

Well, I got the icecube tray from that online place I posted earlier. Let's just say that we have to keep looking.

Even though the description clearly says 12 cubes (both at the store site and on his ebay page), the tray is a 21 cube (3x7) tray.

I may take a standard 14 cube tray, cut out the middle row and glue it back together. Why a 12 cube tray is so hard to find is beyond me :(.

-Fred
 
There's a place online inthe uk that allows you to select from 12, 14 or 24 (i think), but you have to buy in quantity and there aren't any decent pics.

Have you tried checking out local bargain stores?

I will try and get out to South London this week, where there are plenty of those places.
 
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Same for this one... didn't want it to fall off without at least being archived. ;)
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I'm working on restoring my Alien flamethrower right now, then I'm finally going to make a start on putting this thing together :)
 
Darth Detroit has identified the the greeblies on the plate behind the the gully covers as aircraft nutplates.

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Now, what the hell is the plate behind the gully cover? It would seem strange for the prop boys to rivet all these nut plates to that flange for no reason. So, my theory is that the nut plates were already a part of the flange.

The flange is about 7" in diameter, looks to have a 5" tube and then 7" diameter with 1" inside lip. The gully cover is attched to this lip, but it looks like it fits on too perfectly, like they were designed to fit together somehow. That leads me to believe that the thing that the gully cover is sitting on is part of a drain system designed for high volume water drainage. If the cover and pipe/falnge are bolted on to another section of pipe, this all makes sense.

Hopefully, we can get this figured out.

-Fred
 
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Now, what the hell is the plate behind the gully cover? It would seem strange for the prop boys to rivet all these nut plates to that flange for no reason. So, my theory is that the nut plates were already a part of the flange.

The flange is about 7" in diameter, looks to have a 5" tube and then 7" diameter with 1" inside lip. The gully cover is attched to this lip, but it looks like it fits on too perfectly, like they were designed to fit together somehow. That leads me to believe that the thing that the gully cover is sitting on is part of a drain system designed for high volume water drainage. If the cover and pipe/falnge are bolted on to another section of pipe, this all makes sense.

Hopefully, we can get this figured out.

-Fred
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You're probably right about the plate, but I'm not so sure about the nutplates being part of it. We know that the whole Nostromo set was was decorated from parts from an airplane wreckers yard, so it's not too much of a leap to assume that the nutplates were aquired there too. I'm also inclined to believe that the part we had previously thought to be some kind of speedo is some sort of vintage cockpit gauge.
 
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Darth Detroit has identified the the greeblies on the plate behind the the gully covers as aircraft nutplates.

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I didnt find the right ones, as soon as I do I willpost them. Those are low temp self locking nut plates. From what I can make out of the picuture youguys are looking for the all metal, without an insert0 high temp self locking type. Lemme see what I can do I'll get back to you later today.

Studying that picture again, I'm not 100% sure that plate with all those nut plates, is an ACTAUL part. Most of the time when we use these plates we only need about 8 of them for something of that size.
 
Thanks DD :)

There seems to be a plate with regular mounting holes, slightly larger than 7", which the gully cover is mounted on.

gully1.jpg


Beneath that is the raised section, then the second smaller plate with the nuts on.


gully2.jpg


My best guess is some sort of shower or drain trap.

gully3.jpg


It could also be possible that our gully cover is not correct at all, and that something more like this exists/existed:

gully4.jpg
 
The only probelm with the plate theory is, there would have to be more holes. One for each rivet to mount the nutplate, and one hole for th escrew to go into. So there would be holes in sets of three. There would have to be a lot more holes. Unless.. they later drilled out the plate OR just glued the nut plates on. :)
 
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The only probelm with the plate theory is, there would have to be more holes. One for each rivet to mount the nutplate, and one hole for th escrew to go into. So there would be holes in sets of three. There would have to be a lot more holes. Unless.. they later drilled out the plate OR just glued the nut plates on. :)
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If they weren't originally part of the plate, they're probably glued on. I doubt they'd rivet something that's just cosmetic.
 
If they weren't originally part of the plate, they're probably glued on. I doubt they'd rivet something that's just cosmetic.
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Thats what I was thinking... thats a lot of work. I'm on my way to go get some nut plates... wish me luck that they are the right ones. If not, I know another place that has them and will post later tonight.
 
Alrighty, I have other plates, but this is the most accurate one I have. Ther other ones will require grinding down and some reshaping. This one is made of silver, and I used a dime for scale.
 
Well, the shape of the baseplate is correct, but the center is wrong. If you look at the original,

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you can see the shaft sits flat on the base (plus the base appears to be thicker on he original as well). The one posted, the shaft sits on a "hump". I know it seems nitpicky, but welcome to the RPF :lol

We'll just keep looking - they have to be out there somewhere.

-Fred
 
....Yeah, I didnt notice the thicker base until you pointed it out. Hmmm.....

Let me go look again, and I'll get back to you. I need a few more day though. I know which ones to look for now, I DID notice the "bump" youwere talking about. Apearently this type I posted is for a pan head screw. The kind your looking for is for a button head screw, it would have a straight shaft without the recess fo the screw head for it ti fit flush. But did I get the size correct?
 
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