A question for the Mission Impossible fans...

Discussion in 'Entertainment and Movie Talk' started by Ford W Maverick, Apr 17, 2012.

  1. Ford W Maverick

    Ford W Maverick Well-Known Member

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    I liked the first movie, right up till the ending. On the off chance someone reading this hasn't seen it I won't spoil it, but suffice it to say I know enough about physics for it to royally tick me off.

    Anyways, because the ending of MI:1 went beyond my ability to suspend my disbelief (no easy feat that) I haven't seen any of the others. I do see the trailers for them though and they all seem to center around Ethan Hunt being framed and disavowed, upon which he has to put together a rag-tag team and prove his innocence.

    So this is a two part question.

    Number 1: Do any of the movies NOT involve him being disavowed and hunted?

    And Number 2: How stupid does he have to be to keep going back to the employers that every few years try to kill him?

    I mean, I can understand going back ONCE. Maybe TWICE under the right circumstances, but more than that? Far as I'm concerned, after twice it's just his own * fault.

    I mean, seriously, it's happened like 5 times now...
     
  2. SmilingOtter

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    I gave up on it when they made Phelps the villain. I've seen parts of 2 and 3, but really didn't care.
     
  3. Ford W Maverick

    Ford W Maverick Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, that was something else about the first one that really cheesed me off. Either let Phelps be a good guy or leave him out entirely. Still, I was able to put that out of my mind enough to get through the movie, but that last CGI crapfest stunt ruined me on the rest of the series.
     
  4. nightwind1

    nightwind1 Active Member

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    +100 this. Jim Phelps would NEVER turn coat.
     
  5. DuneMuadDib

    DuneMuadDib Sr Member

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    M:I2 he's straight up on an assignment with the government backing him.
     
  6. Ford W Maverick

    Ford W Maverick Well-Known Member

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    Ok, I didn't know that about M:I 2, but what about 3? I know from the DVD ads that #4 appears to involve him being burned again.
     
  7. firesprite

    firesprite Master Member

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    It's been a while since I've seen it, but I believe 3 was him on assignment and his girlfriend (who bears an extremely creepy resemblance to Katie Holmes) is kidnapped to try to blackmail him or something and he has to retrieve her. The movie was enjoyable, for the most part, but I couldn't help imagining Tom Cruise casting women based solely on how much they look like his RL wife. :p
     
  8. DuneMuadDib

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    Sounds familiar, I was doing other stuff while I had the DVD for 3 in so I wasn't paying full attention but he had to go rogue because of the blackmail so he was justifiably being hunted by IMF.

    In 4 his whole team is framed so they have to go rogue to clear their names and save the day.
     
  9. Ford W Maverick

    Ford W Maverick Well-Known Member

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    So 2 out of 4? Not as bad as I thought, but still not good. Then again, they ARE a super-secret, international spy group and not the lunchtime crew at Burger King...
     
  10. DuneMuadDib

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    Hey, he's gone rogue fewer times than Jack Bauer.
     
  11. Ford W Maverick

    Ford W Maverick Well-Known Member

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    Heh, I've actually never watched 24.
     
  12. terryr

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    I was also POed about Phelps. So I disavowed the rest of the movies.

    But from what I have seen of the stunts it must be happening in the Matrix. Impossible in real life. Stunts:Impossible.
     
  13. Wes R

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    That's what did it for me. Not to mention they didn't bother to get the original back for such a minor part.
     
  14. Ford W Maverick

    Ford W Maverick Well-Known Member

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    Like I said, the Phelps thing really bothered me, but since we've all seen it *spoilers anyway* it was the stunt at the end of the first one that completely turned me off on the idea of watching another one.

    Like Terryr said, outside of the Matrix there's no way in hell a person can be propelled forwards from a helicopter explosion in a tunnel onto the back of a speeding train without being rendered a bloody smear from one end to the other.

    I really liked the first Matrix movie (the other's, meh) but at this point I'm almost sad that it got made because everyone feels they have to top the stunts, but without explaining HOW. The Matrix isn't real, that's why the cartoony stuff was believable, but now every stunts-extravaganza type movie has to have some ridiculous stunt that just looks, well, stupid.

    It's actually the reason I haven't seen Live Free or Die Hard. That scene in the trailer where Maclaine and whatshisname are about to be crushed by the car flipping through the air only to be saved by two speeding cars on either side that are conveniently speeding right towards A: two people in the roadway (you know, like we ALL do when we see people in the road) and B: EXPLOSIONS AND FLIPPING CARS! And then (and I'm only guessing here as I haven't seen the movie) probably not a moment is wasted on the drivers of the cars that saved their lives who almost HAD to have been killed in doing so. In Matrix-land it wouldn't really matter (well I guess even there real people would have died...) but in the 'real world' people are just dying left and right and it's not that big a deal.

    And I'm not an anti-violence person. Hell no, give me violence! I just like some semi-realistic reactions to said violence and I like that violence to act, at least in part, like it's taking place on planet Earth. Unless, of course, it's not taking place on planet Earth. Even then I'd like to see it more or less obey whatever laws of physics apply there.
     
  15. robstyle

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    oddly part 3 was very decent, so much in fact they remade it and called it part 4. Part 2 is unwatchable and part one, looking back it doesnt hold up as it plays on the "80's computer can do anything" mentality.
     
  16. Darth Lars

    Darth Lars Master Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    For me, the movies with Tom Cruise is not Mission:Impossible.
     
  17. Too Much Garlic

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    I liked the 4th one.
     
  18. Kevin Gossett

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    Watched Ghost Protocol the other night, and I really enjoyed it. Thought it was probably the best of the 4. Though, his arm would have been ripped from its socket when he was scaling that building and started to fall... :lol
     

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