NakedMoleRat
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They gave her the wheel and this is what she did with it.
A New Star Wars Trilogy Announced
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You are close though, the rumor is that Lawrence Kasdan is being tapped to return and co-write the new Rey trilogy.
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Lawrence Kasdan rumor in the first 2 minutes of this video.
I'm pretty sure that is a clip of them prepping for the Holdo maneuver in greenscreen.They gave her the wheel and this is what she did with it.
Too Much Garlic
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He was so close with the slide... then he over-corrected. Bummer
Not happening.
It’s just a rumor, and the longest of longshots, but I actually hope it’s true and I hope it actually works out.
The way I see it, LFL is most likely going to make at least one Rey movie, or possibly a Rey trilogy.
Two of the biggest complaints about Disney era saga movies is the poor writing and lack of a cohesive story arc across a 3 movie trilogy.
If they add Kasdan to the writing team and he’s part of writing the entire trilogy story I feel like it might actually be a better story and better movies than if he’s not involved.
Like I said, it seems like they are going to do these movies anyway, I guess I’d like them to be as good as possible.
Define 'writing' the movies.
The "bad writing" that people complain about . . . most of it is decisions that were made by producers & directors. The writers mostly take orders from them and provide details like dialogue.
On a movie like ESB, the writer doesn't invent Yoda. The producers do that. They dictate what Yoda looks like, what his planet is like, what he thinks of Luke, how they leave off at the end, etc. The writer mainly fleshes-out an outline.
This is what Star Wars directors do but it was never like this as a normal Hollywood process in the past. A full script showed up to the producers before the duh-rector was even chosen. This director as creative input is like my mechanic choosing my paint color. The two things are unassociated.
Both TFA and Solo were just pure fan service / easter egg movies, and that was reflected in a) the structure of the plots and b) the dialogues. Kasdan was heavily involved with Abram after the initial writer Michael Arndt was fired from Kennedy, and with Solo, he was involved right from the start. So he had a huge influence on both aspects. They even stated that in the making of TFA. The dialogues are lazy written, and at least here he could have shown that he has a much better quality to offer. But in my opinion he is overhyped by some fans because he wrote two good screenplays 40 years ago.
Disagree. Producers dictating most of a movie to writers is completely normal.
Sure, some movies are really the work of a writer. But those are usually not blockbuster-era summer tentpoles.
I thought the micro-level writing of TFA and Solo did feel pretty accurate to the OT. It's the macro decisions and the other movies where it really veered off.
The OT was full of corny/clumsy dialogue (even ESB, the sacred cow). Kasdan isn't perfect but neither was Lucas or Kurtz or Kershner or Marquand. It took the combo of all of them to produce the best OT stuff.
Yes, you perfectly described why all recent summer blockbusters have lost their fanbase. The new belief that directors are writers. Director's film, while reading the screenplay, it is in the actual definition of the job. But the failures will continue as long as this process continues. But it is far worse because these folks are not creative nor even interested in the original storylines. They openly state they weren't fans of the originals but we are supposed to believe they are now going to write or create new material?
I can see this fan service as good and bad. If it is a cash grab with little more than foundation filler, ala hindsight, then definitely bad. But, if they write a backstory that totally makes sense and is just a great overall watch, then they have actually fulfilled the wishes of their fans.
As for Kasdan's current quality, I would be surprised if it has diminished and in that vein would question what parts were his and how much else was off the hip from the talking heads running the show.
I guess I should share that I very much enjoyed Solo as a stand alone movie. Not defending continuity or attempting to align with canon. I just really liked the show.
As for TFA, it felt like someone's college term paper project with little to no cohesion even if seen as a single run unrelated to Star Wars. Far too much Harry Potter chosen-one feel and forced storyline with a lot of mystery box thrown in for good measure.
I really love a lot of the concepts of Solo; I want to see more SW underworld (enjoyed Outlaws for that reason), and the robot uprising + them driving home the horror of L3 being scrapped and stuck in the Falcon after being an advocate for robot rights. I like that they started to follow up on this in the Mandalorian. But this is similar to Star Trek - if you're going to keep a franchise going for 40+ years, you're going to have to start poking into the weirder cracks to mine good stories. Retreading the same story isn't going to do much. It's why so much of this stuff just doesn't have any feeling of vitality. I'm all for a new trilogy if they get real weird about it and don't default to the "the drama is that our hero is now sad" narrative shorthand that everyone uses because thinking of novel ideas is exhausting.
NakedMoleRat
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Solo is a fun popcorn flick.
Imagine 'Solo' with a bit less fan-service origin bits, no Lando/droid romance, and a cooler actor for young Han.
That's about 3 different specific decisions and it clears most of the movie's problems.
You ain't gonna fix the sequel trilogy that easily. Nor Indy#5. Nor 'The Acolyte.'
IMO 'Solo' deserves more respect than it gets.
That's about 3 different specific decisions and it clears most of the movie's problems.
You ain't gonna fix the sequel trilogy that easily. Nor Indy#5. Nor 'The Acolyte.'
IMO 'Solo' deserves more respect than it gets.
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Prop Collector
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Solo was directed (mostly) by a director with zero point of view.
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