Oh I am sorry SK I misread the post. That is still perfectly fine and was completely in concert with my original belief of what Tier 7 involved. All is good; I have not been this excited for a Star Wars project in a very long time!
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Limited Run 3D Scans of 150+ Star Wars Confirmed Donors
- Thread starter Studio Kitbash
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No worries. You'll still be up to your ears in greeblies and still won't have enough time to build everything you want to build!
Well I personally plan on building pretty much all of the classic Star Wars studio scale models... eventually... I'm particularly stoked about a standard TIE Fighter and a Y-Wing, but I'm thinking an X-Wing, ANH Falcon, ANH Star Destroyer, etc. could also be close behind. The possibilities are basically endless!
Studio Kitbash, you've had the scanner for a couple of weeks now... When are we gonna see the first scan? I'm really excited to see the results!
Studio Kitbash, you've had the scanner for a couple of weeks now... When are we gonna see the first scan? I'm really excited to see the results!
Next week.
The scanner came: awesome.
Then the computer said: Insufficient Memory
So, new computer, new software, troubleshooting, testing, and then...
Then the computer said: Insufficient Memory
So, new computer, new software, troubleshooting, testing, and then...
"8 seconds per scan"... that's what the marketing and advertising for the scanner says.
8 days later... the learning curve is still very steep.
Day One: Set up scanner on kitchen table, excited like a kid in a candy shop - clear/colored object scanned -- no good
Day Two: Light adjusted, move set up to basement -- no good (computer giveing "insufficient" memory problems still)
Day Three: Get/install new computer, software glitches, tech support -- no scans, day of frustration
Day Four: Try scan in new "vampire" basement dark room conditions - no good
Day Five: Spray paint object with grey primer -- no good
Day Six: Spray paint object matt black -- no good
Day Seven: Tech support with Scanner -- no scans today, but some better clues as to how to get results
Day Eight: Spray paint object flat white (on top of black, on top of grey primer) -- RESULTS (9.9 million points scanned!)
Day Nine: Some really good results, but still some holes and wonkiness. So One More Layer of Tamiya XF-27 Flat White (the object you see below has 5/6/7 layers of paint on it, so beware that some of the scan is lacking in precision not as a function of the scanner, but as a function of layers of paint applied. Future scans will have fewer paint layers added, and thus be even higher-definition)
Day Ten: Very Good Results. Try to post RESULTS to RPF, but this is not possible: "The attached file is too large and cannot be uploaded." This message arrives again after compressing file to Zip file for minimizing.
So I can post these Snips instead:
Overhead view
Bottom view
Top view
Underside view (here is where you can visually "see" the most errors - I'm hoping this side doesn't matter to folks)
Quarter view
PM me for the actual file of the results, and then test-print it. I want feedback on how it prints out in ABS, in PLA, in resin, on a Formlabs2 and on an Anycubic or Photon printer. I want to know if it's "good enough" or if it still needs tweaking. Cuz this took WAY longer than I thought it would..
Meanwhile, like everything else in this hobby, practice your personal patience: the learning curve on 3D scanning is a lot steeper than I imagined.
Would also like to hear from all supporters/subscribers -- I'm making these as "watertight meshes" which means ready-to-print. But I can also make these as "non-watertight meshes," in case folks with 3D CAD skills want to tweak, perfect, or otherwise play with them themselves before printing. (Got a preference? If I do BOTH, assume a lot more time needed.)
And if you're NOT already a subscriber to this Project Run, HERE is the answer to the multiple versions of the question: "What quality scans will we be getting?"
Answer: Very High Quality, but with Time Added as a Necessary Component in the quest for QUALITY.
If you think this is worthy, please spread the word.
8 days later... the learning curve is still very steep.
Day One: Set up scanner on kitchen table, excited like a kid in a candy shop - clear/colored object scanned -- no good
Day Two: Light adjusted, move set up to basement -- no good (computer giveing "insufficient" memory problems still)
Day Three: Get/install new computer, software glitches, tech support -- no scans, day of frustration
Day Four: Try scan in new "vampire" basement dark room conditions - no good
Day Five: Spray paint object with grey primer -- no good
Day Six: Spray paint object matt black -- no good
Day Seven: Tech support with Scanner -- no scans today, but some better clues as to how to get results
Day Eight: Spray paint object flat white (on top of black, on top of grey primer) -- RESULTS (9.9 million points scanned!)
Day Nine: Some really good results, but still some holes and wonkiness. So One More Layer of Tamiya XF-27 Flat White (the object you see below has 5/6/7 layers of paint on it, so beware that some of the scan is lacking in precision not as a function of the scanner, but as a function of layers of paint applied. Future scans will have fewer paint layers added, and thus be even higher-definition)
Day Ten: Very Good Results. Try to post RESULTS to RPF, but this is not possible: "The attached file is too large and cannot be uploaded." This message arrives again after compressing file to Zip file for minimizing.
So I can post these Snips instead:
Overhead view
Bottom view
Top view
Underside view (here is where you can visually "see" the most errors - I'm hoping this side doesn't matter to folks)
Quarter view
PM me for the actual file of the results, and then test-print it. I want feedback on how it prints out in ABS, in PLA, in resin, on a Formlabs2 and on an Anycubic or Photon printer. I want to know if it's "good enough" or if it still needs tweaking. Cuz this took WAY longer than I thought it would..
Meanwhile, like everything else in this hobby, practice your personal patience: the learning curve on 3D scanning is a lot steeper than I imagined.
Would also like to hear from all supporters/subscribers -- I'm making these as "watertight meshes" which means ready-to-print. But I can also make these as "non-watertight meshes," in case folks with 3D CAD skills want to tweak, perfect, or otherwise play with them themselves before printing. (Got a preference? If I do BOTH, assume a lot more time needed.)
And if you're NOT already a subscriber to this Project Run, HERE is the answer to the multiple versions of the question: "What quality scans will we be getting?"
Answer: Very High Quality, but with Time Added as a Necessary Component in the quest for QUALITY.
If you think this is worthy, please spread the word.
This looks fantastic! I can't wait to check it out in 3D. I'm sorry to hear you had so many problems getting this first scan done, but it sounds like you are dialing in a process that will work to make future scans a little easier.
As for "watertight/ready-to-print" meshes versus "non-watertight" meshes, I think you are probably best off going with watertight for everything and if people want to tweak things before printing, they can do it to the watertight model. People can take away scan data to make things more manageable, but they can't create scan data that isn't there. Focus your scanning energy on creating a finalized, accurate, properly scaled, and watertight mesh of each part and simpler models can be generated from that if people want. That's my 2 cents!
Keep up the great work!
As for "watertight/ready-to-print" meshes versus "non-watertight" meshes, I think you are probably best off going with watertight for everything and if people want to tweak things before printing, they can do it to the watertight model. People can take away scan data to make things more manageable, but they can't create scan data that isn't there. Focus your scanning energy on creating a finalized, accurate, properly scaled, and watertight mesh of each part and simpler models can be generated from that if people want. That's my 2 cents!
Keep up the great work!
Looking good! Not surprised that the learning curve was a bit steep - I've learned over time that these kinds of things are always a bit more tough than first anticipated (computers and things associated with them are never simple) - but I'm sure the effort you've put in will pay off by making the next bits easier. Keep at it - this is great!
Dan
Dan
I am setting up my print stations this weekend... I should be able to give it a whirl on Saturday God willing. But I still have yet to unravel the mysteries of good slicing and printing... so errors may be my technique vs. bad scan. but I'm willing to give it a try.
I'll PM my email address
To answer your question on what type of files... I would assume printable. IIRC the printable version can be ingested by the modeling programs anyway so 2 birds 1 stone... unless I'm mistaken - which is very possible I'm a noob here taking my first steps in this part of the hobby.
Jedi Dade
I'll PM my email address
To answer your question on what type of files... I would assume printable. IIRC the printable version can be ingested by the modeling programs anyway so 2 birds 1 stone... unless I'm mistaken - which is very possible I'm a noob here taking my first steps in this part of the hobby.
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I am only saving/sharing these as .stl files, which are in "watertight mesh" and "printable" form, they are scaled at 1:1 or 100% of the original object. You may or may not want to resize the very large files, like this one, which originally picked up over 9 million data points on the combined scans.
I wish I saw this thread sooner, I woulda pitched in! A digital library where people can access the incredibly scarce parts/greebs to build their own models, provided by the community, is---dare I say---noble.
Wow, this scan is detailed! Here's a quick render with some approximate materials to the original kit part to give an idea of the quality of this scan. I look forward to more!
Just to let the community know... I was able to print this model on my FDM printer... it was too large for my Resin printer. This was the first successful thing I printed on my printer. As such there was some learning curve failures with Slicer settings, print temperatures and bed heights... but it printed proving that Studio Kitbash's efforts to scan the object were successful. Now in the interest of full disclosure the print isn't perfect - its my first successful one and I'm confident that the quality can only get better from here as I learn to dial in the print settings. when I get home form work I will post a picture of the raw print... just taken off the print bed and wiped a few "strings" of PLA off. I think you'll see that while a bit rough with some TLC could actually be used for a model.
Jedi Dade
Jedi Dade
dtssyst
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Use the free (and easy to use) software 3D Builder to split the file so it can fit onto the bed of your resin printer.
Here's the pic of the FDM printer part by the way... Certainly not perfect but its my first real print so I'm happy it printed at all
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