1:1 Millennium Falcon Cockpit Replica - Group Build

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Hi Gang,

A few more updates... and now I DO have to go watch Football! :)

Added more layers of paint
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Got another panel started!
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More to Come... but in a while...
 
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Hi Gang...

Well... Bad news and even more bad news...

First... My team lost in the playoffs... oh well... :)

Worse... The two packs of pin striping I got was bad... really bad! I've never seen it this bad before. Within a few hours the pin striping had all but fallen off or come completely loose... UGH...

So, I wound up having to remove ALL of it. Well... More like just shook it off... I'll pick up some new stuff this week and start over again...

I walked up to this panel and UGH...
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So... I pulled all the pin striping off of each panel. But... I decided to have some fun...

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UGH... What a great way to end the weekend... My team loses and now this? Gee whiz! ;)

More to Come!
 
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yikes! Makes you wonder if any more pin stripes will lose adhesion over x-number of months or years and fall off... ...and of course painting pin stripes on would be a nightmare and probably out of the question... Guess you'll just have to take your chances, eh?
 
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I spray a layer of clear satin once the pin stripes have been laid... but this was SO fast. It was just a bad pack of striping...
 
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Can't wait to see them slider parts in place in the panel, for me it was one of thee most noticable areas of the cockpit - very cool work!

After this weekends pin stripe debacle I'm hoping to have it finished before the weekend - minus rocker knobs. I'm looking very closely at screen shots. I'm really hoping for the best!

Very nice.

Thank you, Sir! :)

awesome awesome awesome....hope to have ever the chance to see this beauty live !

Thank you for the kind words x 3. If you're ever in the area... You're more than welcome! :)

This is going to be AWESOME !!!

Thanks, K! I certainly hope so!
 
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Hi Gang,

You can see in this pic how bad the white pin stripes are compared to the black. I should have known the pack was bad, the edges were frayed and uneven...

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Oh well... I'll pick some up today on the way home from work. :)
 
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First of all...BRAVO on your work so far!!! This is an EPIC thread about an EPIC build...It's...EPIC! :)

Since reading up on your project, and drooling over Stinson's original CG thread that started all this, I've been thinking about how I would go about building one of these as well. So I had a few thoughts I wanted to throw your way.

In regards to the panel striping, and your recent run of "non-stick tape"...Have you ever given any thought to painting the panels the colors of the lines, laying the pin-stripes down as a mask, and then painting the grey and removing the tape? I only ask because you clearly are an ANIMAL of a tape layer (meant completely as a compliment), so the lines would be nice and straight...But you wouldn't have to fear another round of tape pulling up this way.

I know the thought of re-doing all that work sounds overwhelming, but If you guys plan on taking this around to shows, different climates and humidity could cause more issues down the road...And this would remedy that from happening.

I also thought about yet another option...Sign makers use a type of plastic that has color on the outside, and a white core. They then use a small routing type tool to cut letters, designs, etc through the top layer, exposing the white underneath...Think about your average office desk sign or door sign. I believe that stuff comes in various colors and sheens. I was thinking it might be possible to take the original files from Stinson to a sign shop and let 'em rip. To me the only down side would be the additional cost...(ain't that always the case)

Anyhow...GREAT work on this...I stop by for updates several times a day...I think I'm addicted. :D

Jason
 
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I was wondering the same thing Jason ^^ (painting a layer and then masking it off) King I have run into this "tape fail" problem several times in my basement project, and I was giving serious thought to painting the lines going forward to prevent this issue.
 
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Why not just make a stencil of the longest stripe? Then you could block off one end to get the shorter lengths. Weigh it down along the edge so it doesn't bleed, then airbrush it.
 
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Hi Gang,

First of all...BRAVO on your work so far!!! This is an EPIC thread about an EPIC build...It's...EPIC!

Since reading up on your project, and drooling over Stinson's original CG thread that started all this, I've been thinking about how I would go about building one of these as well. So I had a few thoughts I wanted to throw your way.

In regards to the panel striping, and your recent run of "non-stick tape"...Have you ever given any thought to painting the panels the colors of the lines, laying the pin-stripes down as a mask, and then painting the grey and removing the tape? I only ask because you clearly are an ANIMAL of a tape layer (meant completely as a compliment), so the lines would be nice and straight...But you wouldn't have to fear another round of tape pulling up this way.

I know the thought of re-doing all that work sounds overwhelming, but If you guys plan on taking this around to shows, different climates and humidity could cause more issues down the road...And this would remedy that from happening.

I also thought about yet another option...Sign makers use a type of plastic that has color on the outside, and a white core. They then use a small routing type tool to cut letters, designs, etc through the top layer, exposing the white underneath...Think about your average office desk sign or door sign. I believe that stuff comes in various colors and sheens. I was thinking it might be possible to take the original files from Stinson to a sign shop and let 'em rip. To me the only down side would be the additional cost...(ain't that always the case)

Anyhow...GREAT work on this...I stop by for updates several times a day...I think I'm addicted.

Jason

Hi J,

Thanks for the very kind words! Glad to read your interested in building a cockpit/console for yourself! Did you have any specific questions?

So far, this is the first time the pin striping didn't take. I've seen this before and it's no big deal. I probably got a roll that near the end of the larger "roll" that was cut during production. Thankfully, this wasn't a complicated panel so reapplying the striping wont take too long.

I considered painting, but with everything that has to be applied, LEDs, buttons, greeblies, rockers, etc... Once paint goes down... you're basically stuck and have to find a work around.

Once I lay the pin striping I spray several layers of satin clear to help seal both the panel and the striping. So far, other than this roll, I've had ZERO issues (I'm knocking wood as I type).

The console and surround have been in the garage for the past week and it's been really cold - so far so good! : )

All your ideas sound really good but money is tight... I think the pin striping, as of now, is the way to go. We might change our tactic when the cockpit for the full scale build starts. :)

Thanks for the inputs and let me know what your plan for your console is. Would love to hear it!

I was wondering the same thing Jason ^^ (painting a layer and then masking it off) King I have run into this "tape fail" problem several times in my basement project, and I was giving serious thought to painting the lines going forward to prevent this issue.

Hey Fuzz,

If you got a bad roll - that's going to happen. However, make sure the surface area is clean. When you apply the striping tap into place and then make several passes over the striping with your fingers applying more pressure after each pass - the striping may fold over itself so be careful. I then use my finger nail for the final pass. Applying more pressure pushes the striping onto the surface and ensures complete sticky-ocity-ness.

Then spray a clear coat (flat, satin, clear - depends on your project) to help keep the striping in place and also add a layer of protection. Again, I have not had any issue with any of the other striping I've done so far minus the bad roll I purchased. :)

Hope this makes sense.

Why not just make a stencil of the longest stripe? Then you could block off one end to get the shorter lengths. Weigh it down along the edge so it doesn't bleed, then airbrush it.

The longest stencil would be those going around the edges. I like the idea... it reminds me of my airbrush days back in college!

Painting it how I'd do it but it does take longer. More durable though.

As I mentioned above, Chris Lee might want to change the approach when we tackle the ESB version. Painting the striping would take a considerable amount of time and materiel but you are correct, it wouldn't peel and it would last... We'll probably burn that bridge when we get to it. lol

I did pick up some new pin striping and I'll know the moment it peels from the roll if it's a bad roll or not. The signs are petty evident - frayed edges, uneven width... This is the first time this has happened and let's hope it's the last! :)

As always... More to Come!
 
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Have you ever given any thought to painting the panels the colors of the lines, laying the pin-stripes down as a mask, and then painting the grey and removing the tape?

Jason

For the Chris Lee full-scale falcon cockpit, this is the way I would consider going. Better to be safe than sorry. :facepalm All you would have to do (re-worded) is paint an entire panel white, lay the pin stripes down, paint the entire panel gray, then peel away the pin stripes in order to reveal the white underneath, hoping of course that no paint peels along with it.

Good luck, and keep the Tylenol handy.
 
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For the Chris Lee full-scale falcon cockpit, this is the way I would consider going. Better to be safe than sorry. :facepalm All you would have to do (re-worded) is paint an entire panel white, lay the pin stripes down, paint the entire panel gray, then peel away the pin stripes in order to reveal the white underneath, hoping of course that no paint peels along with it.

Good luck, and keep the Tylenol handy.

The only issue is that pin striping tape is not very reliable when it comes to a porus surface. There would be a LOT of bleeding and peeling. I think the traditional route of masking the areas and painting white would be more successful - especially with the new "bleed free" tape that is readily available.

I have LOTS of Tylenol! :)
 
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Yep. The only big concern with painting the stripes is getting perfectly consistent line width.
 
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Yep. The only big concern with painting the stripes is getting perfectly consistent line width.

For a consistent line width... one way is to lay pieces of the wide "bleed free" tape in wherever areas require pin striping. Measure and pencil / mark out the pin striping width. Then use an X-Acto and straight edge to cut and remove the area to be painted. Basically, you use one piece of tape for each pin stripe by using the length of the tape and removing the center of the piece of tape leaving two sides. Then either spray or brush the appropriate color. I really hope I was able to explain that! lol

However... you have to be VERY careful NOT to cut too far into the panel and leave a cut mark. Overlapping tape will create an uneven cut surface forcing more pressure and better chance to cut the panel...

I think it's "six" in one hand, "half dozen" in the other... Any way will work. :)
 
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That would take SO long :lol

I think your quickest bet would be to get pinstripe size making tape, lay it down, apply normal size masking tape on each side, then remove the middle piece. Voila, perfectly straight.
 
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I know from doing home improvements that when wanting to paint stripes on walls, you lay down your masking tape, then paint a layer of the original base/wall color on there first, that way if it bleeds, it is the original color. Then leaving the masking tape in place, paint on your new color.

You should then be able to remove the tape and have NO bleeding at all.

Just a thought. You'de have to try it on a scrap to see if it would work for you on this project!
 
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I know from doing home improvements that when wanting to paint stripes on walls, you lay down your masking tape, then paint a layer of the original base/wall color on there first, that way if it bleeds, it is the original color. Then leaving the masking tape in place, paint on your new color.

You should then be able to remove the tape and have NO bleeding at all.

Just a thought. You'de have to try it on a scrap to see if it would work for you on this project!

Genius! :thumbsup

I've heard a lot of techniques but that sounds fool proof.
 
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Genius! :thumbsup

I've heard a lot of techniques but that sounds fool proof.

Don't you have home-improvement-DIY-tv-soaps over there? :rolleyes

That is the first thing Charlotte and Sonya teached us :love



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There's a new tape for masking called Frog tape that is supposed to seal better then most....
 
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