1:1 'Ghost' Of ObiWan Kenobi...

Chewie15

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I'm working on another 'little' project where I'll be using a translucent urethane, so I had to make a 'Ghost' Obi-Wan Kenobi bust as a 'test' piece ;) It comes out looking like water from the mold, so I sprayed a light amount of blue tint to eluminate him...

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The urethane used on this bust was a 'fast set'... so it did get a few air bubbles, bit the ones I'm using on my future skull project will be slow set, and have no bubbles ;)

H

www.howardsstudios.com
 
In the films, the ghosts of obi wan or yoda are not perfectly clear.
Clear cast pieces always just look like ice sculptures to me. Same with the toy action figures.

I think it would look closer to what we see on film if it was not a clear resin casting, but just a regular casting painted in such a way to emulate the washed out blue tint that we see on screen. You would still paint skin tones etc.. but they would be very greyed out, bluish in palette.

Very similar in approach to that awesome paint job camper did with that frankenstein's monster head. The one where it looked like a 2-d painting, but was just an optical illusion.

Just my .02c and trying to think outside the box.

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OMG...I really really want one of those. I have not been interested in getting any human like busts because I have no finishing skill...no chance that I could do lifelike flesh tones. But this one....I could display it proudly. Howard..anychance of making these available? PM me if you don't want to discuss on the board.
YOu have done a great job sir!
 
I'm working on another 'little' project where I'll be using a translucent urethane, so I had to make a 'Ghost' Obi-Wan Kenobi bust as a 'test' piece ;) It comes out looking like water from the mold, so I sprayed a light amount of blue tint to eluminate him...

GhostBen1.jpg

GhostBen2.jpg

GhostBen3.jpg

GhostBen4.jpg

GhostBen5.jpg


The urethane used on this bust was a 'fast set'... so it did get a few air bubbles, bit the ones I'm using on my future skull project will be slow set, and have no bubbles ;)

H

www.howardsstudios.com

It looks like an accident waiting to happen - an ice sculpture sitting on a heater. :)
 
Really cool. Wish you could shoot me a pm on what urethane you were using.

Also... to emulate the "ghost" look I do think the clear resin is the right approach, though, it should be painted up like a regular bust, only with thin layers of paint and in a more colder and bluish tone and then lit from within to make the glow!?
 
He needs painted eyes to look real and human. Right now he's pretty lifeless.

Looks awesome otherwise, wish I could afford one.
 
Also... to emulate the "ghost" look I do think the clear resin is the right approach, though, it should be painted up like a regular bust, only with thin layers of paint and in a more colder and bluish tone and then lit from within to make the glow!?

That was my first thought as well.
However if that were done, then the head would look hollow rather than ghost-like because you would still see the back of the head (including it's inside surface) when looking from the front.

In order to get the look from the film, you cannot approach it in clear or transparent because on film you are seeing a super slight transparency of a 2d image. In real life a transparent 3d object looks like colored glass or ice.

Best to sacrifice any real transparency, and go for the correct color tones/hues of what is seen on screen.

In the end, I think it would be a closer effect.

I'd love to see someone give it a try.


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You could see thru him in the movie... so I think the transperancy is a must. I do think he'd be cool with some transparent paints (like a friend suggested)... painted as if he was real, but still translucent.

Bust this is more of a 'test' piece than anything else. I think in person it looks pretty sweet as is :D
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www.howardsstudios.com
 
I sure didn't mean to put down this piece.
I think it is cool as is, just like if someone were to do an all bronze piece etc..

But for an accurate depiction of what he looks like as a ghost in the film, I think anything transparent has to be sacrificed. Keep in mind in the film it is a 2d image that is transparent. Impossible to recreate that look in 3d.

Best you could hope for is to match the washed out & blue-ish tones with very low contrast.

Here's a crappy screen grab to jog everyone's mind of how it looked on film.

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You need to do the ghost of Yoda with your new sculpt. Maybe you could tint the resin?
 
Well you sort of can't see the back of his head when looking through the front in those pictures Howard posted of the clear urethane cast. I say it's certainly worth seeing what it would look like painted up. Sometimes "Close Enough" is the best you can get, because perfection is utterly impossible in regards to the goal.
 
I think it is great. If you take away the transparency you will loss what it looks like on screen.
I think that would be a mistake, it looks fantastic as it is, and I have never seen a "paint job" make something look like a ghost you can see through, ff course just my 2 cents, but it seems lots of folks were giving them so I wanted to chime in.
Great work as always:thumbsup
 
Don't get me wrong, I think a clear bust has it's own merits as a stand alone piece. And I think this piece is cool in and of itself.

But if you are trying to capture the ghost look as seen on screen, you are barking up the wrong tree.

A bust painted up with the correct color palette and low contrast with look closer to what your brain interprets as the ghost as it appears on screen than anything transparent (even semi-transparent) in real life.

Look at this side-by-side.
I don't know about you, but I see flesh tones, white/grey-ish colored hair tones ect..in that ghost from the movie.
If you can't see what I'm talking about then I don't know what else to tell you.

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If you want the 'idea' of a ghost and don't care if it looks anything like what is in the film then great, do it as transparent.

But if you care at all about what it looked like in the movie, then it HAS to be painted in opaque colors. The color palette and low contrast will create the illusion better than anything transparent.


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