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    Mar 9, 2017, 7:35 AM - Re: Graflex Bank - EVERYTHING you need to know about the Skywalker lightsaber prop! #26

    I find it hilarious that after all these months, and me complaining to myself in my head about the fonts looking crap when I knew they were supposed to look good...

    font-family: 'Monteserrat', sans-serif;

    That's what I had in my CSS - but it's Montserrat, not Monteserrat... How in the world did I not notice that?

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    Mar 10, 2017, 10:44 AM - Re: Graflex Bank - EVERYTHING you need to know about the Skywalker lightsaber prop! #27

    The Graflex Bank reached 1000 unique visitors last night... To me, that's crazy! Thank you all for the support

    Some more stats (Started keeping track of stats Jan 11th):

    Unique Users: 1,006
    Pageviews: 6,844
    Avg. Session Duration: 00:03:57
    Avg. number of pages viewed per session: 4.04

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    The site's design has never been good enough in my mind. I've been stuck in a mindset of not having any idea what I want it to look like, but I think I've had my epiphany moment, realizing I want to sort of go for a "modern vintage" look.

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    Left new - right old

    Would love some input on this!
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    Mar 11, 2017, 3:50 PM - Re: Graflex Bank - EVERYTHING you need to know about the Skywalker lightsaber prop! #28

    Uploaded current progress on the redesign here: http://graflexbank.com/redesign/

    Again - would love some input

    Cheers
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    Mar 11, 2017, 4:14 PM - Re: Graflex Bank - EVERYTHING you need to know about the Skywalker lightsaber prop! #29

    TITLE- I can't dislike either one! Any history behind the logo in the hex?
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    Mar 11, 2017, 4:48 PM - Re: Graflex Bank - EVERYTHING you need to know about the Skywalker lightsaber prop! #30

    Toadmeister said: View Post
    TITLE- I can't dislike either one! Any history behind the logo in the hex?
    Honestly, not really :/ I was googling vintage graphic design for inspiration and decided I wanted a badge of sorts. Didn't put much thought into why I chose a hexagonal shape, it's just what popped into my head and I liked it.

    I'm not really sure what I'm doing with any of this, I make it up as I go and learn from that! Slow learning for a slow learner, works out best this way
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    Mar 13, 2017, 5:50 PM - Re: Graflex Bank - EVERYTHING you need to know about the Skywalker lightsaber prop! #31

    Wohoo, updated the site!

    - New website design uploaded! Will continue to fix and change things as usual
    - KR Sabers links in Where To Buy fixed to link the new website
    - Darklyte Customs Graflex related shirts added to Apparel
    - Graflex Bank new logo shirts available! Doubt anyone will buy this, but I wanted one for myself, so...
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    May 2, 2017, 2:25 AM - Re: Graflex Bank - EVERYTHING you need to know about the Skywalker lightsaber prop! #32

    Hey! If any of you more knowledged people could go over the site and make sure there isn't any wrong information, I'd appreciate that a ton!

    I know there's some errors in bottom stamping info, but I'll get that fixed asap

    My memory is pretty bad (which is one of the reasons I made the site), so me going over everything myself isn't that helpful


    (also hey im excited, my first vintage (2 cell, missing red button) should arrive soon! it's chillin' in customs atm)
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    May 2, 2017, 10:22 PM - Re: Graflex Bank - EVERYTHING you need to know about the Skywalker lightsaber prop! #33

    This is the first I'm seeing this site and I have to say it looks great. You did a really nice job. I like the design and layout. Here are some things that stand out to me as far as prop info:

    It's not possible to know what was stamped on the bottom of the ANH saber.

    It might be more accurate to call the ESB beer tab "missing" rather than "removed", since we don't know why it's not there.

    The brass screw in the clamp lever of the Ranch saber is the only thing holding on a broken lever. To my knowledge it is not known whether it was like this during filming, so maybe swap the order of the Dagobah and Ranch sabers and list the Ranch saber before the Dagobah saber... Note what we know about the Ranch saber since it is easily observed, then in the Dagobah saber listing you can say it's the same prop and note what we can or cannot surmise from observing the Ranch saber and looking at screencaps.

    Severed Hand Stunt has two cone knobs deep-set inside the two front cord outlets. The same cone knobs appear on other Star Wars props.

    The Bladed Stunt was not made into Darth Vader's lightsaber for ROTJ. It was likely dressed up to look like Darth Vader's lightsaber some time after ROTJ.

    The grips on the Holiday Special saber are not likely to be T-track. It is not known what they are.

    Also I would separate the movie props and the replica props (Launch Bay, Prop Shop, etc) into two different sections once you add more replicas (Larbel, GR, RE, etc) to the list.

    Again, nice job!
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    May 8, 2017, 3:20 AM - Re: Graflex Bank - EVERYTHING you need to know about the Skywalker lightsaber prop! #34

    This is just the kinda feedback I've been craving!

    Jedi Reali said: View Post
    This is the first I'm seeing this site and I have to say it looks great. You did a really nice job. I like the design and layout.
    Thank you!

    Jedi Reali said: View Post
    It's not possible to know what was stamped on the bottom of the ANH saber.
    I am aware, but was not at the time of originally compiling the information. Fixing this!

    I believe @SethS said the glass eye was in the Folmer style - can I get a double confirmation on this?

    I've removed the stamping info from IV hero and IV promo saber - should maybe include something about the folmer style glass eye

    Jedi Reali said: View Post
    It might be more accurate to call the ESB beer tab "missing" rather than "removed", since we don't know why it's not there.
    Changed to missing

    Jedi Reali said: View Post
    The brass screw in the clamp lever of the Ranch saber is the only thing holding on a broken lever. To my knowledge it is not known whether it was like this during filming, so maybe swap the order of the Dagobah and Ranch sabers and list the Ranch saber before the Dagobah saber... Note what we know about the Ranch saber since it is easily observed, then in the Dagobah saber listing you can say it's the same prop and note what we can or cannot surmise from observing the Ranch saber and looking at screencaps.
    I'll look into changing this eventually

    Jedi Reali said: View Post
    Severed Hand Stunt has two cone knobs deep-set inside the two front cord outlets. The same cone knobs appear on other Star Wars props.
    Huh, yeah. Why didn't I add this already? Welp. Thanks, added!

    Jedi Reali said: View Post
    The Bladed Stunt was not made into Darth Vader's lightsaber for ROTJ. It was likely dressed up to look like Darth Vader's lightsaber some time after ROTJ.
    Hmm, where'd this misinformation come from? I think I may have pulled this info from Parts of SW - was this just some outdated inaccurate information? Made it strike-through for now

    Jedi Reali said: View Post
    The grips on the Holiday Special saber are not likely to be T-track. It is not known what they are.
    So I should drop the second half of this sentence?

    "6 black grips of an unknown material were added to the bottom half of the prop, speculated to be hard plastic T-track from old cupboards with sliding doors."

    Jedi Reali said: View Post
    Also I would separate the movie props and the replica props (Launch Bay, Prop Shop, etc) into two different sections once you add more replicas (Larbel, GR, RE, etc) to the list.
    I'll move remove Prop Shop from this list eventually and keep it strictly in the replica list ( http://graflexbank.com/replicahistory.html ), but Launch Bay doesn't really fit in there as the list is meant to be of purchasable replicas. It is mentioned that these were not used or seen in the film, but I could make this point more highlighted

    I'm doing this at work (with permission from the boss!), so it'll take a few hours before I have the changes uploaded to the site. I'll try to hurry uploading them after going to pick up my vintage 2 cell from the post office

    Anyway, many thanks for the feedback!
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    May 8, 2017, 3:17 PM - Re: Graflex Bank - EVERYTHING you need to know about the Skywalker lightsaber prop! #35

    Title said: View Post
    This is just the kinda feedback I've been craving! Thank you!
    Oh good, you're welcome!

    Title said: View Post
    I believe @SethS said the glass eye was in the Folmer style - can I get a double confirmation on this?
    There are a few versions of glass eyes, and it's thought that the one on the ANH prop may be a Folmer version due to how it appears to be very unreflective in the promo photos. It's the later non-Folmer glass eyes that are very shiny, earlier ones had a duller finish.

    Title said: View Post
    I've removed the stamping info from IV hero and IV promo saber - should maybe include something about the folmer style glass eye
    Honestly, I don't think it's worth mentioning. It's not known, it's one of those extra obscure little details that we here on the RPF like to speculate and obsess about. I feel like there's a time and a place for obsessing about the unknowns of stamping info and glass eye versions, and it's here in a prop forum, and not on a website that seeks to be an easy reference guide. That's just my opinion though.

    Title said: View Post
    Hmm, where'd this misinformation come from? I think I may have pulled this info from Parts of SW - was this just some outdated inaccurate information? Made it strike-through for now
    POSW hasn't been updated in a very long time, and there is no evidence that the Graflex Vader saber ever appears on screen in its current state.

    Title said: View Post
    So I should drop the second half of this sentence?

    "6 black grips of an unknown material were added to the bottom half of the prop, speculated to be hard plastic T-track from old cupboards with sliding doors."
    Honestly, I wouldn't even say there is "6" of whatever is there. To my eye it looks more like a solid wraparound with ridges in it, but it's really open to interpretation. People like to use T-track on their replicas because we can't tell what's really there, and T-track will always "look right" on a saber.

    Title said: View Post
    I'll move remove Prop Shop from this list eventually and keep it strictly in the replica list ( http://graflexbank.com/replicahistory.html ), but Launch Bay doesn't really fit in there as the list is meant to be of purchasable replicas. It is mentioned that these were not used or seen in the film, but I could make this point more highlighted
    Ah, I gotcha.

    Title said: View Post
    I'll try to hurry uploading them after going to pick up my vintage 2 cell from the post office
    Congrats on the 2-cell!
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    May 8, 2017, 4:18 PM - Re: Graflex Bank - EVERYTHING you need to know about the Skywalker lightsaber prop! #36

    Jedi Reali said: View Post
    To my eye it looks more like a solid wraparound with ridges in it
    ????????????
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    May 8, 2017, 5:09 PM - Re: Graflex Bank - EVERYTHING you need to know about the Skywalker lightsaber prop! #37

    Treadwell said: View Post
    ????????????


    Well, more like one piece than six pieces. I actually think it's four wide rectangular pieces with some kinda ridges or cutouts in em. But I'm not trying to take this thread too far off topic. My point is it's definitely not 6 T-tracks.

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    May 8, 2017, 5:24 PM - Re: Graflex Bank - EVERYTHING you need to know about the Skywalker lightsaber prop! #38

    OH, I completely missed we were talking about the HS.
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    May 8, 2017, 8:05 PM - Re: Graflex Bank - EVERYTHING you need to know about the Skywalker lightsaber prop! #39

    If by Graflex Vader saber we're referring to the one with bolts all over it, it IS seen on screen. About the time vader swoops and leans on the railing and lets Luke wail on his arm. (Before the close-up)

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    May 8, 2017, 8:49 PM - Re: Graflex Bank - EVERYTHING you need to know about the Skywalker lightsaber prop! #40

    thd9791 said: View Post
    If by Graflex Vader saber we're referring to the one with bolts all over it, it IS seen on screen. About the time vader swoops and leans on the railing and lets Luke wail on his arm. (Before the close-up)

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    tom refresh my memory, that is the saber vader throws are luke as well right? the part where the blade is embittered out the wrong end
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    May 8, 2017, 9:42 PM - Re: Graflex Bank - EVERYTHING you need to know about the Skywalker lightsaber prop! #41

    You're most likely correct, that could be the one he throws.

    That or possibly the Strobonar version. But there was never a blade in the Strobonar hilt.

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    May 8, 2017, 10:04 PM - Re: Graflex Bank - EVERYTHING you need to know about the Skywalker lightsaber prop! #42

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    You're most likely correct, that could be the one he throws.

    That or possibly the Strobonar version. But there was never a blade in the Strobonar hilt.

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    tom refresh my memory, that is the saber vader throws are luke as well right? the part where the blade is embittered out the wrong end
    Most likely not

    The saber thrown at Mark or his stunt double had no blade. That's why one had to be added post production, and they rotoscoped the wrong side - OR decided the butt of the saber was oriented better and figured people wouldn't notice.

    Also, the graflex-vader is pretty darn heavy. It most likely has one of those solid cylinders inside, countersunk and bolted in, to anchor the blade.

    The thrown saber also seems to have foil tape between the grips. I've fantasized that versions like the strobonar were made to cast solid resin pieces for things just like this.
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    May 8, 2017, 10:05 PM - Re: Graflex Bank - EVERYTHING you need to know about the Skywalker lightsaber prop! #43

    thd9791 said: View Post
    Most likely not

    The saber thrown at Mark or his stunt double had no blade. That's why one had to be added post production, and they rotoscoped the wrong side - OR decided the butt of the saber was oriented better and figured people wouldn't notice.

    Also, the graflex-vader is pretty darn heavy. It most likely has one of those solid cylinders inside, countersunk and bolted in, to anchor the blade.

    The thrown saber also seems to have foil tape between the grips. I've fantasized that versions like the strobonar were made to cast solid resin pieces for things just like this.

    aaah! good looking out tom!
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    May 8, 2017, 10:10 PM - Re: Graflex Bank - EVERYTHING you need to know about the Skywalker lightsaber prop! #44

    thank you! its weird watching our knowledge change over the years

    lets see if I have pictures

    it does seem to have a graflex top

    dull silver body, maybe painted. some greeblie in front and shiny stuff between the grips, what I'm guessing is foil tape like on other props.
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    I remember someone telling me the blade would have covered his face and not "hit" his chin had the blade been correctly positioned.

    edit: it seems to have no "shoulder" like the MPP fakes do. this could be a cast of the ANH stunt to be honest.
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    May 9, 2017, 12:18 PM - Re: Graflex Bank - EVERYTHING you need to know about the Skywalker lightsaber prop! #45

    Right, I forgot about the backwards blade, which would rule out the ROTJ Graflex.

    I keep coming back to the Strobonar idea, or a casting of it. It's real hard to tell in that photo, or in any screenshot probably, because the thing is moving so darn fast.

    I see what you mean though about it looking like there's no shoulder up top, suggesting just a black painted emitter end like the ANH Stunt.

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    May 9, 2017, 4:52 PM - Re: Graflex Bank - EVERYTHING you need to know about the Skywalker lightsaber prop! #46

    thd9791 said: View Post
    If by Graflex Vader saber we're referring to the one with bolts all over it, it IS seen on screen. About the time vader swoops and leans on the railing and lets Luke wail on his arm. (Before the close-up)

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    Cool! I stand corrected.

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