What's the big deal with moving triggers?

[MattMunson]

Not trying to pick a fight here (which I often do..) but I have a genuine curiosity bubbling up in my little head.

I'm confused as to why people are passionate about some props NEEDING to have moving parts. I'm thinking particularly of the MR pieces out of China, and the upcoming Mal pistol. Some people have even said that if it doesn't have a moving trigger, they will not buy it.

So my question:

Why???

Won't this item spend 99% of its life in a box, on a shelf, or in a case??? Why deny yourself an awesome display piece because you cannot pull the trigger? Something you might only do a dozen times during the lifetime of the prop???

I guess that's my angle. But I cannot understand another angle.

Help a brother out.

 

[juno]

I was trying to unload my Mal pistol at a con and freaked out everytime someone picked it up afraid they would pull the trigger right off the thing.

But otherwise, I say screw the moveable trigger -- from now on I'll only buy a gun if it really shoots

Seriously though. . . it matters not to me either way.

 

[Mola Rob]

I would prefer a moving trigger but I'll be damned if I can really tell you why. I know these are non-functioning replicas and I won't be blasting evil thingies into oblivion but I just like the trigger to move. Maybe it's a leftover from playing with cap guns or squirt guns when I was a kid. I like that oh so satisfying CLICK.

 

[Darth Detroit]

Because youalways have that ******* "friend" who wants to pick up your blaster, and pull the trigger... and if its a solid resin blaster the trrigger will breakoff.

I DO see you point, and it seems retarded, but if I were to have any moving part on a replica gun, either E-11 or any other blaster prop, it would be the trigger.

 

[BlindSquirrel]

For the ones I build, I figure "as long as I'm at it...."

I dunno about the MR guns. Maybe it's a human thing that WANTS to pull a trigger when you're holding the gun? Kinda like checking to make sure the letter dropped after putting it in the big blue mail box.

 

[PHArchivist]

I held an MR Sparrow pistol that was a store display. Both the hammer and trigger were broken off and glued back on. :lol I'm doing my own WITH a working trigger and it is just SO COOL.

Its funny -- part of me wants to say that props are "big boy toys" ( :confused ) and cool working parts add to the fun. On the other hand part of me feels moving parts, lights, and sound are gimmicky, increase costs, and will rarely be used.

Maybe it depends on the item. My MR Neuralyzer -- I love the pop-up feature and the lights, but the sound is cheesy, and overall its a bit flimsy. I rarely use it. But I CAN'T pick up any of my replica guns that feature working triggers without pulling the trigger.




<div class='quotetop'>(The Watchman @ Sep 6 2006, 07:27 PM) [snapback]1314127[/snapback]</div>

Maybe it's a leftover from playing with cap guns or squirt guns when I was a kid. I like that oh so satisfying CLICK.
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Oooh -- reading that felt goood.

I have a pair of Mummy pistols that is essentially field-strippable, but the triggers don't move. :cry

 

[micdavis]

I don't get it either despite having several replicas (BR PKD) with broken triggers.

 

[MattMunson]

well, as long as everybody else is just as confused by it as I am, then i guess I can sleep tonight.

if it's just some weird "because I like it that way" debate, kinda like blondes vs. brunettes, then I'm cool.

 

[Darth Detroit]

<div class='quotetop'>(MattMunson @ Sep 6 2006, 02:35 PM) [snapback]1314138[/snapback]</div>

well, as long as everybody else is just as confused by it as I am, then i guess I can sleep tonight.

if it's just some weird "because I like it that way" debate, kinda like blondes vs. brunettes, then I'm cool.
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...brunettes....

 

[PHArchivist]

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<div class='quotetop'>(MattMunson @ Sep 6 2006, 02:35 PM) [snapback]1314138[/snapback]

well, as long as everybody else is just as confused by it as I am, then i guess I can sleep tonight.

if it's just some weird "because I like it that way" debate, kinda like blondes vs. brunettes, then I'm cool.
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...brunettes....
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Hear, hear. Brunettes with working triggers.

 

[moffeaton]

Brunettes. Prefer them with working receivers, too.

 

[Watson]

<div class='quotetop'>(moffeaton @ Sep 6 2006, 02:42 PM) [snapback]1314147[/snapback]</div>

Brunettes. Prefer them with working receivers, too.
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Ha aint that the truth

 

[sapper36]

Redheads all the way baby.

 

[donsolo]

I think the reason is it makes the prop more accurate, and more interesting to have. Really, what's the difference between a full metal gun and plated resin cast if it's just going to sit in a case? Why care if it has real wood grips or some painted plastic ones? Why put all the details on both sides when you will only see it from one on your shelf? None of this stuff needs to be there for display pieces, it just makes them better. Same idea for moving parts... That's just how I feel about it.

Oh, and it's redheads for sure. B)

 

[hydin]

ill add on a vote for redheads as well. if they work, and move, thats even better :lol

as far as the moving trigger debate, every friggin blaster/pistol/gun prop i have owned has had the trigger replaced at least 2 times due to "HAY THIS IS NICE (snap) OOPSIE". :angry

its less "i want this function cause its cool" and more "its less straining on my heart when someone picks up one of my props and plays with it". nothing gets the ol heart rate up faster than a prop newb grabbing hold of something you spent about 20 hours building and painting.

plus, its just cool to have SOMETHING on the replica work. buttons on lightsabers that click, triggers on guns that move, it just adds in that "cool" feeling. there isnt a person on this board who hasnt picked up a blaster, rifle, pistol, lightsaber, ANYTHING and went through the motions of using it (even in thier head). if they say they havent, they are lying.

its not a huge problem for me, where if i see something doesnt have a working trigger i think "NOPE, NOT BUYING" but if i am laying out hundreds of dollars for a replica gun it would be nice if it wasnt just a big hunk of plastic.

chris

 

[Zaphod]

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Redheads all the way baby.
[/b]

Amen brother.
Alleluia...

 

[Luke Skyvader]

I think it's very simple, as Don Solo said, it makes a prop more interesting. Regardless of how much or little you handle it, the more moving parts the better.

Pete

 

[Gojira61]

<div class='quotetop'>(MattMunson @ Sep 6 2006, 03:35 PM) [snapback]1314138[/snapback]</div>

well, as long as everybody else is just as confused by it as I am, then i guess I can sleep tonight.

if it's just some weird "because I like it that way" debate, kinda like blondes vs. brunettes, then I'm cool.
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If the trigger doesn't move back how will you know when to yell BANG. BANG.

Makes little diiference to me, the prop is in it's case 99% of it's life.

 

[Wake]

<div class='quotetop'>(Luke Skyvader @ Sep 6 2006, 09:25 PM) [snapback]1314185[/snapback]</div>

I think it's very simple, as Don Solo said, it makes a prop more interesting. Regardless of how much or little you handle it, the more moving parts the better.
[/b]

That's why I'm really looking forward to the Lawgiver Mark I that Charlie Towers is working on for Termight Replicas. His intention is to give it a moving trigger, rotating rear scope and fine focus dials on the grip, moving ammo selector, and a removable top magazine with a sliding cover slip. I don't know if everything will be possible but if he gets most of the way there it will blow the existing recast of the Bray Studios lawgiver out of the water.

There are a few progress photos in the photos section of the Termight Replicas Yahoo group.

Cheers,

Wake

 

[b26354]

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I think the reason is it makes the prop more accurate,[/b]

Weren't the screws above the trigger of the ESB Solo blaster put there to stop the actors pulling the trigger? A non moving trigger might technically be more accurate