What I Like About Star Wars

Discussion in 'Entertainment and Movie Talk' started by Tan Djarka, Feb 10, 2012.

  1. Tan Djarka

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    I was looking at the "bashing" thread and wanted to respond, but then I noticed it was locked, and I couldn't add my proverbial "two cents". Feel free to add yours, but please try to keep it positive.

    Like many here, I saw Star Wars (and the rest of the OT) when it was released, and in it's original glory (a scratchy print in a tiny theater with mono sound), and I loved it. I was ten, what did I know? Turns out, I wasn't alone, and for the many years that followed, Star Wars was a big part of my life. But then I "grew up" after it ended with ROTJ, and I gave away all my books and toys, and got on with my life.

    And then the special editions were released. Did I agree with every change made by Lucas? No. It did enhance some parts of the films, others not so much, but the best part was, I got to see them on the big screen once again. Nothing Uncle George did, or even the die hard naysayers could ruin me re-experiencing the joys and wonder of my childhood.

    Flash forward to the prequels. Did I agree with every plot point Lucas decided to pursue to establish Anakin's back story? Once again, no. But I like Star Wars in general and I liked them, warts and all. Best of all, unlike the younger version of myself that decided I was too old for Star Wars, I discovered I'll never be too old for Star Wars.

    If it weren't for the prequels, I may have never rediscovered that joy. I found a new hobby, building lightsabers. And maybe, best of all, I found this place.

    Star Wars films are like family. There's things about them you love, and there's other things you just can't stand. In the end, life just wouldn't be the same without them.

    Here endeth the rant...
     
  2. Scott Graham

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    What I liked about it from the first time watching it was that it was like watching a foreign movie and getting immersed in that culture of "what the heck is going on here". George makes a good point of this in his commentary for THX. His first three movies all had similar themes to a person wanting to break free of his normal, so so, life and go out and explore. The more familiar and predictable all this got, the less interesting it seemed.

    It was fascinating that it was familiar and so alien at the same time. That's what made the characters, the design, the whole movie work for me. And the design work has always interested me so much that I got into industrial design after seeing the movie and the Star Wars sketchbook. Like comic books, I'm much more interested in the art than the story going on though. But without the interesting story it wouldn't have worked either.

    That's what I like about it and what got me hooked.
     
  3. Clutch

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    If Star Wars had turtles with lasers, it would absolutely rule!
     
  4. Robiwon

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    I saw Star Wars on the big screen when I was 10 as well. It seems hard to imagine that I still remember that experience. I have seen hundreds of movies since then and probably have forgotten most at the theater.

    I was hooked the minute the Star Destroyer flew by overhead in the opening shot. That same day I painted two thirds of a tree branch red and had my very first lightsaber. The story and the underlying meanings didn't hook me as much as the ships and hardware did. Everything looked so real compared to other space movies before it.

    I agree that the movies are not perfect and there are holes big enough for the Titanic to sail thru, but hey, it's Star Wars, not Gone with the Wind!

    I wouldn't be here either if it were not for these movies. If George makes another one, I'll be in line. I'm a lover, not a hater!
     
  5. firesprite

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    I was 'too young' to see Star Wars on the big screen when they originally came out (though ironically, my parents took me to see Raiders in the theaters on its first run :facepalm).

    Even so, Star Wars was a HUGE part of my life. My brother shared his Star Wars action figures with me and I helped create huge excavations in the yard to play with them. So, when the Special Editions were released in theaters, it was my first time seeing the films on the big screen and I loved them. Were they perfect? No, of course not... but it was still an amazing experience, finally seeing the film on the big screen.

    Then came the prequels. Again, I went opening weekend to see each one as it was released and, for the most part, I enjoyed them. As a writer, they're way too indulgent of George and I can definitely see where a strong editor (story-wise) should have given him the proverbial smack upside the head a la NCIS. However, I think that RotS with the culling of the Jedi finally delivered what people wanted to see from Anakin and the prequels.

    Will I go see the movies in 3D? Absolutely not. Will I purchase the blurays? Highly unlikely. I have all 6 movies on dvd and there's nothing on the blurays that makes me need to run right out and get them. Would I purchase them if they had the original, untouched trilogy? Eh, maybe, but again, there'd have to be more on them than that to get me to shell out the cash.

    Do I love Star Wars? Oh, HELL YEAH! Just because I might say I think George has been smoking too much crack because he can't stop tinkering doesn't mean I don't love the stories. I just think that he needs someone to look at him and tell him no like he had back in the day.

    My anger over the prequels stems more from the knowledge that they COULD have been so much better. The strongest parts of RotS (my favorite prequel) were those where you could see Steven Spielberg's influence on the film because it was more subtle and the performances were better (Obi-Wan and Anakin facing off for their final battle, in particular).

    Empire (the movie out of the OT that most people claim as their favorite) was less a result of George's own abilities than the collaboration between him and the people in his life who were also creative and strong enough to tell him that an idea sucks.
     
  6. CessnaDriver

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  7. Solo4114

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    I first saw Star Wars at age 4 on a VHS recorded off of Prism (old HBO equivalent) that some friends had given my folks. I remember playing with these big blue and red tinkertoys (the really big plastic ones) with my dad and playing lightsabres after seeing it. From then until I was probably about 11-12 or something, I watched that Star Wars tape every Sunday morning (we weren't religious and I wasn't interested in the "fake preacher" shows as I called them). It got to where I could recite R2's bleeps and boops from memory.

    I grew up playing with the toys (although I eventually graduated to G.I. Joe, but still kept the AWESOME Star Wars vehicles), too, had the storybook records, etc. I also remember listening to the NPR production of The Empire Strikes Back at age 6. Eventually I got kind of tired of the old stuff (as I said, was more into G.I. Joe and such).

    I was in my teens when the Star Wars revival really hit. This would've been around 1991/1992. LucasArts started putting out TERRIFIC PC games (X-wing, Tie Fighter, Dark Forces, etc.), and I loved 'em all. Even Rebellion! I still do, actually. Also, Timothy Zahn's books had come out. All that together really got me to fall in love with the franchise again, and with this expanding universe of cool additional stories, I was hooked.

    I was super excited for the prequels but was ultimately disappointed by them. I remember feeling sort of dazed and numb after leaving Episode I. I couldn't process it and didn't know what to make of it. Eventually that turned to a real dislike, but I was hopeful that things would improve. I enjoyed the action in Episode II (I still do, actually), but was frustrated at how the Clone Wars seemed to keep getting ignored. When were we going to get to that?! By the time Episode III came out, I was thoroughly frustrated. I'd gotten burned out on the older stuff with the SEs and Lucas' continued tinkering, I'd been burned by playing Star Wars: Galaxies, and everything that was coming out was all-prequels-all-the-time.

    I still love the original OT, and some of the older stuff in the franchise, but these days what I love is less the films and more my memories of growing up with them. When I eventually have kids, that may change, although it may depend on what versions are available by then.
     
  8. E Q

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    Age must have something to do with SW. I saw it as an adult and found it a simple story with Aliens that seemed like rejects from 70s sci-fi shows on tv. My guess is if you saw the original 3 as a kid you really liked it. It seemed aimed at kids, now those kids are adults and it has that nostalgia effect. What I like about Star Wars? It keeps people who may buy the stuff I want occupied and makes it easier for me to get the items I like. Especially since no one can collect it all, and money only goes so far. :)
     
  9. wannab

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    "Sir they're evading our turtle lasers!" lol



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  10. Rupert_Angier

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    The truth.

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  11. Crank729

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    The thing I like about star wars, other than it being completely awesome (prequels included ) Is that it never gets old. 40 years later from the original movie and we are still nit picking every little detail, watching them over an over and still buying the stuff. They are the biggest movies in the world, and I think they will always be.
     
  12. Timmythekid

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    My three year just demanded to see ESB yesterday and I was catching bits and pieces - it hasn't aged AT ALL. It looks just as good, feels just as timeless as it did back in 1980. An AMAZING feat.
     
  13. phase pistol

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    I like space ships. :)
     
  14. Zombie_61

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    I saw Star Wars on the day it was first released here in California. For as long as I can remember I've been a fan of sci-fi television shows and movies, and would (and still do) watch them as often as I could. But Star Wars was unlike anything I had ever seen before. Like many, I was hooked from the moment the Star Destroyer began that "it seemed to take forever" shot across the screen. Yeah, the story was rather simple and some of the dialogue was...unusual...but it was pure fun! Interesting characters, honest performances (particularly Mark Hamill's and Alec Guinness'), good action, John Williams' brilliant score--what's not to like?

    BTW, I was 15 years old at the time; not quite an "adult", but not exactly a kid. Star Wars was released two months before my 16th birthday, and I drove to the theater without a valid driver's license (learner's permit only) because I'd read all of the Starlog magazine articles prior to the movie's release and nothing was going to stop me from seeing it if I could help it. And, I would later find out, I was nursing a case of atypical pneumonia (a.k.a. walking pneumonia) at the time.

    What did/do I like about it? Pretty much everything, warts and all. (I'm referring to the original versions of the Original Trilogy movies, not the not-so-Special-Editions.) The Prequel Trilogy...those movies could have been much better, no question, but I've come to accept them for what they are.
     
  15. Colin Droidmilk

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    For me, aged ten in 1977, it was the spaceships, the robots bickering in the desert, and Han Solo that carried the day. Plus the concept of the events being a fairy tale taking place a long time ago in a different galaxy, with planet Earth being simply disregarded. This idea blew my mind. Nowadays I like it for a lot more reasons too, not least the amazingly seamless blend of film genres and references (I'm still finding new ones), the blend of 30s nostalgia (Leia's hair, TIE/Falcon windows) with futurism and so on, a quality which was dissipated even by Empire. I also really admire Hamill's performance more and more.

    A lot of comments here about playing lightsabres on coming out of the cinema. Not me, I never wanted a lightsabre toy or a SW costume - all I wanted were model kits of the ships. Even today I can't relate to half this board - all the costume and lightsabremaking, lol... what IS that all about? LOL
     
  16. Rivera

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    My first memory off going to the movies is when esb was showing in theatres when i was 4-5 years old.
    Star Wars branded me, and I collected the toys, read the comics, and had my mom sow me up a black cape, and my father made me a stick lightsaber coloured with a red marker.
    The movies has followed me allways, but as others has stated, the chance to see the movies on the big screen fuels the magic to no end.
    And thanks to a friend, I got introduced to the 501st legion some years ago, and now I have costuming as my prime hobby, making friends, learning new skills, and doing good in the process.
    I might not agree with everything Uncle George does, but * I like Uncle Georges stuff.
     
  17. The Wook

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    As a boy in that magical summer of '77, I saw Star Wars about 30 times...20 of those viewings in the first two weeks. My dad would drop me and my buddy Kevin off at the Eric Twin Chestnut Hill at around 11 in the morning and come back and pick us up around 10 at night. One day I convinced Dad to watch the picture with us, even though he hated Sci-Fi. I knew of his love for Westerns, so I told him it was a Western in Outer Space. He capitulated, and sat silent the whole movie. As we walked into the lobby, I tugged his shirt sleeve, and said, "Well Dad, what'd you think?". He answered glumly, "That was no Tom Mix.". But he was happy I'd found something that I loved.

    The film resonated with me in so many ways, but unlike some of you who fashioned light sabers out of sticks, or my bud Tom Spina who instantly knew he wanted to some day fabricate those wacky creatures in the cantina, I was touched mostly on a philosophical, spiritual level. The Force, is what grabbed me most. It opened my mind to...well...forces, beyond the Christian orthodoxy in which I'd been raised. People are surprised to hear that it was not the mighty Chewbacca, who would later become such a big part of my personal and professional life, nor the gunslinging Solo, nor the young farm boy turned hero Luke (who was closest to my age) that I gravitated most closely to, but rather, it was the old master of the Force, Obi-Wan Kenobi, who stoked my imagination most of all. Sure, I loved ALL those other characters, and I could not get enough of the opening Star Destroyer shot, the imposing Lord Vader, the dual sunset, the cantina scene, the hyperspace jumps!, the light sabers (which I thought were called "life savers" :lol at first), and the Falcon turret battle against those evil Tie Fighters. But *nothing* in Star Wars inspired me like the Force. Then, or now.

    When I first saw ESB, I was initially disappointed by the film, because it lacked the triumphant ending of Star Wars. Of course I saw the film over and over again, and loved the AT-ATs and Yoda and all the screen time given to Lord Vader and his badass-ness. But the ending was a buzzkill for me every viewing. And I'd leave the theater frustrated by the knowledge that I'd have to wait 3 whole years--an eternity when you're that age--to see my heroes, and the light side of the Force, prevail. And yet, ESB was Star Wars, and had so much great about it up until the anti-climactic ending, that I still loved it. Just not as much as Star Wars. Then, or now. Although now, I'm not bothered by the abrupt ending. Still, nothing matches the first Star Wars film for me. Not Empire, not any other film ever made.

    Here are some excerpts I really like from an article, which I believe was posted here last year, about one man's opinion on why Star Wars is better than Empire.

    "There's a lot of talk in [Star Wars], but that dialogue is not deployed merely for exposition, as it often is in the Star Wars films, but rather for fostering a feeling of place and community within the picture. Its overall look is rougher, with less chrome and gloss, and more dirt and ash. But that griminess lends the film a mood that—despite the triumphant climax—infiltrates you, rather than pumps you up.

    But the film reveals its characters' personalities in more subtle ways, as well. People hang out a lot in Star Wars. Luke and C-3PO get to know each other in a glorified tool shed; Luke and Ben bond in the latter's hut; space chess and early Jedi training occur simultaneously as our plucky band travels from one spot of adventure to the next. We understand these individuals because Lucas had the courage to simply show them together, during their downtime. Viewed in relation to the rest of the franchise—especially the prequels—[the first Star Wars film's] restraint seems radical.

    [Many films] rely on spectacle as spectacle; [Star Wars] uses spectacle to create meaning. Its loud, splashy moments turn to foster quiet, personal scenes. After Darth Vader strikes down Obi-Wan Kenobi, we see Leia consoling Luke in a hushed, almost maternal manner that pulls the viewer into the screen as we note each gesture, each word. You start to feel like you're riding along with these characters, invested in a way that you weren't previously.

    And as much as we enjoy being thrilled by on-screen action [that moreso characterizes The Empire Strikes Back], and pulling for one side over another, there is nothing like feeling as though you've been rendered invisible and inserted into a film, relegated to stand just out of view, but privy to every breath and whisper. That's what movie magic really is, and few films put it on display better than the first Star Wars."

    As some of you have expressed, Star Wars never gets old. Our initial impressions of the film are so strong, so vivid, and so deeply embedded in our minds and spirits, watching the film(s) today, for the God-knows-how-many time, we are magically transported back to our wide-eyed, wondrously carefree, lazy days of youth.

    I'll have to leave it there...I've got to pay bills, work on my taxes, fix the leaky faucet, walk the dog, and go to work.

    The Wook
     
  18. Scott Graham

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    That was nicely summed up! It's really the original movie that still revs me up. I love the intentionally funny dialogue too and the looseness - before it took itself seriously. Pure fun. Like there was nothing to lose and not many people besides George could understand the vision of it all. It really came together well. I was 11 at the time and it was a perfect escape from the downer and reality of much of the 1970s at the time. Just as American Graffiti was, but I was too young to get into that movie at the time it came out.
     
  19. Jodo

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    I think my favorite memory of SW was as a 10 year old waiting for my grandpa to bring home what he bought me at midnight madness for TPM. He in no way has/had anything to do with Star Wars, but he went to MM for me, and bought me one of almost everything they had. He even picked me up for lunch at school the next day, and we went to Walmart and K-Mart to check if they had put anything else out (Where we cracked open a case of Naboo fighters that was still sealed).

    It's not really even the movies that make me enjoy SW, it's just the joy that was brought along with them. SW definetly made up most of my childhood, until I was about 14. I did enjoy the movies, but I will never forget the year or so waiting for TPM to come out. Recording the trailers as they came on TV, and playing them over and over again. I actually was just thinking of that first trailer they had for TPM, and how magical it was for me that I had it recorded on a tape.

    After TPM was released, my friends and I even started a Jedi training deal, and we kept up a book of missions we had gone on,etc. So really, when I think of Star Wars, I don't really even think of the movies. I think more about the memories that went along with the entire thing, and how that was probably my most favorite time of my life.
     
  20. Timmythekid

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    I'll add that as a 4 year old in 1977, SW WAS going to the movies. And going to the drive-in (man I miss drive-ins). Then in 1979 seeing that insane teaser on TV that said there was MORE to the story?! Holy crap, what were those robot dinosaur things?! Then that agonizing wait between 1980 and 1983 to find out what happened next? Jesus, I'm not sure how my little heart didn't explode sometime during those three years.

    Forget any pseudo-intellectual examination of the films - for a whole generation it was the perfect synergy of our ability to comprehend a storyline at that age, be blown away by visuals, and the emoptional complexity advanced at pretty much the same rate we did; heroes win (duh!), no massive consequences to deal with in SW, then things get really dark and complicated, the heroes are totally failable in ESB, then you end up ACTUALLY CRYING WHEN THE BAD GUY FINALLY GETS WHAT'S COMING TO HIM in RotJ! It grew up along with us perfectly.
     
  21. Apollo

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    I was 16 when I saw the first show on opening day and I remember being gladly drawn into a whole different Universe
     
  22. Timmythekid

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    Then you were a 16 year old with the emotional maturity of a 5 year old. Or you were high. It was the '70s, it's okay man.



    I KID I KID!!!!!!! I was just saying that it defined storytelling and it's development was perfectly synched for an entire generation of us.
     
  23. Rotwang

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    What I like about Star Wars is that it blows all the contemporary S-F films out of the water. We were being served a steady diet of films that showed how the future was going to be horrible, where intelligent speaking apes would force us to live in underground cities, eating Soylent Green and then have us tossed in the carrousel at 30 and outside mutated spiders or strains from outer space would kill us in horrible ways, IF we were spared by Lord Humongus ... It brought the fun and excitement back in Science Fiction films.
     
  24. Eagle

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    That's just it; it's timeless... it'll never be bettered.
     
  25. jun

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    The very first time i watched a Star wars film was not 'A new hope' but ROTJ. Of course ROTJ is the ending to the whole Star Wars story so i thought Star Wars was just this one movie, the ROTJ! I was only 8 at the time, and no one told me there was ANH and ESB. One day i went over to my friend's house and he said, lets watch Star Wars (ANH). I say ok, thinking its ROTJ but its a completely different movie! It was good knowing that there are more Star Wars movies to watch!

    After all these years, I'll watch Star Wars whenever i wanted to get back to my childhood memories, and that's why i love it, its a transport bringing me back to my childhood.
     
  26. niennumb1

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    It is not timeless according to George Lucas' needs of "updating" them.

    Aside the amount of sadness I have toward all the things that screwed up some of the way I loved seeing the OT, Star Wars will always be a huge part of my life and It will never leave my blood. Amongst all the complaining I've done over the last 10 years on it I will always love it.
     
  27. Galactifan

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    I like that even when there's no chance they can do it...the good guys always win! Goota love the Original Trilogy for having a roller coaster good time fun-filled ride!
     
  28. Colin Droidmilk

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    And yet.... the usually acerbic film critic Alan Frank was no child when in 1977 in his book 'SciFi Now', he went absolutely gaga over the film, rating SW as no less than the 'intellectual maturing' of the SF genre, placing it even above 2001... Then there was that middle-aged guy on the Fox board of directors who, weeping, called it the greatest film he'd ever seen... And hey, even my Dad loved it when he took us ( he was 33), and so did my first girlfriend's Dad. And Kubrick liked it. And Hugh Hefner watched it through twice. And when Dino de Laurentiis asked Federico Fellini to direct Flash Gordon, he replied, 'there's no point, George Lucas has already done it'.

    I think the above shows it's more than a movie for kids, it unlocks the kid inside the adult too. Some adults anyway, lol...
     
  29. ralphee

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    Like Steve, the ships, it was always about the ships. I wasnt the kid who looked at them as spaceships though, i looked at them as models, and wanted to see where they tied the wire that made them fly lol.
    Even back then, i just wanted to see how it all worked, it changed my life, at least, formed the way my spare time would be spent.
    Oh and the freezing chamber scene on Cloud City, ALWAYS gives me goosebumps.
    All in all, i love everything about Starwars, its a kids movie and FUN movie, period, adults today who bag on it, are just grouches that probably yell at kids to stay of there lawn's, and are too pished they didnt get to work on it anyway.

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  30. CJS

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    I think that times just change. If the prequels were released way back they would be just as loved. Watching 4,5,6 as kids and the watching 1,2,3 as mostly adults everything will be different. Your imagination and how they get the rabbit out of the hat is different. Everyone that grew up on the originals will have a hard time "growing down" to appreciate the newer stuff. I'm naturally immature, naive, bewildered, live in my own world and a massive space cadet when it comes to the life so they are all cool to me. lol
     
  31. Solo4114

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    I disagree about the whole "It's the nostalgia thing" in the difference between PT and OT.

    I think you can argue that the OOT's f/x have aged, but that many of us who grew up on it don't see it that way because of nostalgia. So, when I say that "The OOT looks more real than any CGI crap out there!!" that's me being a nostalgic curmudgeon. I think you'd at least have a decent argument there, if that's what folks tried to argue.

    However, while admittedly not the greatest drama of all time, the first two Star Wars films (ANH and ESB) still hold up as stories, even if the f/x have aged. And I think they do that a LOT better than the PT. Sure, there are some similarities in terms of the quality of each. Both have their moments of clunky dialogue. Not every performance across the board is top-notch.

    But overall, I think the story of the OT and the characters of the OT are better realized and more interesting than the story and characters of the PT. I could rattle off my reasons why, but I think that the "you're looking at it through different eyes" thing, while true, only gets you so far.

    As has been discussed above, adults within the industry generally applauded Star Wars. It wasn't just that it was a monumental f/x feat. It was also that it was just a solidly told cracking good adventure story. It spoke to the "childlike wonder" in plenty of adults because of how well it was done.

    I don't think the PT's story, characters, etc. hold up nearly as well, though, and that there are large swaths of it that go beyond mere "childlike wonder" and in to the realm of "juvenile nonsense." And while that was present to some degree with the OT, I think it's a much higher degree in the PT.


    Actually, this got me thinking about the degree to which the PT is both the victim of invidious comparison, and the beneficiary of brand name associations.

    On the one hand, you can argue that the PT isn't nearly as bad as many of its detractors make it out to be. Sure it's a lousy film, but the DEGREE of hatred that people have for it stems more from invidious comparison -- it's so far below the OT that cannot help but actually look worse. Kind of like how a beat up car just standing on its own might not look quite so bad as it does when you sit it next to a pristine classic. Even one that may have had some modifications made. ;)

    On the other hand, though, I cannot help but think that many of the people who claim to love the PT really love the PT simply as "more Star Wars" rather than as films unto themselves. By this, I mean that if you stripped out the Star Wars IP from the PT, would people like it as much? Almost certainly not. If the film was titled "Fall of the Galactic Democracy", and a couple of Star Paladins ran around trying to figure out what was going on, and Anakin was renamed Albion and would later fall to become the Black Star Paladin Necrol, and Palpatine was the Star Warlock Baron Nefaar, and the hero's mentor was Kel-Dror instead of Obi-Wan, and they used monomolecular blades suspended in a magnetic containment field instead of lightsabres....people probably would just think of it as some lame Star Wars knockoff that doesn't hold a candle to the originals. Or was, "Eh, ok, but nowhere near as good as the Star Wars movies. And boy was that Vaur-Vaur guy annoying." But instead, slap on the Star Wars name, call those characters Anakin, Obi-Wan, and Palpatine, and all of a sudden you've got lead into gold. The alchemy of branding.
     
  32. Colin Droidmilk

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    This is a bloody good point.
     
  33. Solo4114

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    Oh!! I thought of something I really dug about the PT: Ewan MacGregor's Alec Guinness impersonation. I honestly enjoyed it. I think he's the best thing in the later two films, and is only edged out of the first film by Liam Neeson.

    I think, for me, because I fall into the former "invidious comparison" camp, that I'd actually ENJOY a "Star Wars knockoff" featuring the adventures of Liam Neeson and Ewan MacGregor as Star Paladins or whatever. But I'd enjoy it far less as a "Star Wars" film.
     
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    Except for the "life savers" thing, this is true for me as well. I was raised with Christian dogma forced upon me (no pun intended) and, even though I never really accepted any of it, I went along with it to make my parents happy. The Force, even though it was a "fictional" construct, resonated with me far more than any of the religious teachings I'd been exposed to. It wasn't until many years later that I discovered how many similarities there were between The Force and the study of metaphysics.

    I concur. Ewan McGregor's performance as the younger Obi-Wan Kenobi perfectly complimented Sir Alec Guinness' portrayal in the Original Trilogy.
     
  35. Psab keel

    Psab keel Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    I love the original Star Wars trilogy because it's a modern mythology. It follows the hero cycle in a way that transcends words. The visual metaphors tell the story and the music gives it resonance. Good casting, great production design, archetypal plot, and nearly perfect editing.

    I love the production design of the Prequel trilogy, the music, which was the ONLY thing I wouldn't have changed at ALL. John Williams is a genius through and through. Good casting. Some great actors, that sadly were never given a chance to act in the films.

    But on a positive note, Star Wars resonates with me because it's a journey and it's just * FUN TO WATCH!
     
  36. terryr

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    No Countdowns! Old sci-fi always had a countdown before they did anything.
    "Changing course in 5..4..3..2..1..Fire!" "Firing retros in 5..4..3...2..1..Fire!" "opening the door in 5...4..3..2..1.."
    Even Star Trek had "come to course 123.54 on my mark.............Mark!"

    There was a need to copy modern day NASA for some reason. Star Wars just did it. They got in and drove away.

    It had great sets, not cheap crap, yet didn't shove them in your face.

    It was fast paced and edited for short quick cuts. That was rare then.

    Great music.
     
  37. The Wook

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    Excellent post. Thank you for your perspicacious comments. I'd not thought of the "countdown" absence from the Star Wars galaxy.

    The Wook
     
  38. Colin Droidmilk

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    MacGregor was very good, yes, and the Bergman actress also lent a bit of weight. One of the other things I liked about the film was that - putting the kid and Jar Jar aside - the Tatooine stuff felt sort of like something from a Bible epic, as it had done in the original. It's just a pity that, along with the rest of the movie, half of it made absolutely no sense.
     
  39. MFP 2020

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    I was 12 in 1977. Star Wars rocked my world. It was magic.

    "The Death Star will be in range in five minutes."

    ?

    Except that Lord Humungus didn't make the scene until 1981. ;)
     
  40. terryr

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    That's not a countdown. That's to show how long the Rebels have. If they sat there and went 5:00....4:59....4:58...4:57....
     
  41. drago0013

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    Star Wars is/was a bonding experience. My Dad took me when I was almost 2. I still remember crying when R2 got shot. My wife and I had our first married couple date to Episode 1. My son is named after a Sith Lord. Now, my father has had a series of major strokes and has lost most of his memory, but can still sit and talk about taking me to see the OT as a kid.
    I really don't care what Lucas does to tweak the OT or Prequels. The memories I have tied to the films will be with me...always. :)
     

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