RhinoActual
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Ok... Now I need a Looking Glass mask.
Watchmen (HBO TV series)
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Analyzer
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Each episode keeps getting better
It wasn't much of a surprise with the Senator's reveal. I kind of had a bad feeling about him.
Fingers crossed Looking Glass (aka mirror guy
) was able to survive but I doubt it
And Veidt's reveal about being on Jupiter's Moon was not expected. I figured he was kept somewhere on Earth. Obviously that is a prison created by Dr Manhatten
Fingers crossed Looking Glass (aka mirror guy
) was able to survive but I doubt itAnd Veidt's reveal about being on Jupiter's Moon was not expected. I figured he was kept somewhere on Earth. Obviously that is a prison created by Dr Manhatten
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no worries - and I realize my post last week about wanting to see more AHS:Minutemen, was answered, and not the way I expected. this is not the comics I bought back in the 80s, but it is the direct continuation.sorry, maybe I should put that in spoiler tags just to be safe
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As to where Nite Owl is...
www.denofgeek.com
"Laurie’s current apartment has an owl in a cage, and Dan was known to study owls and write about them in academic journals. Is this one of Dan’s owls, or merely something she keeps to remind herself of her former lover? In any case, Senator Joe Keene, Jr. reminds her of the power of a Presidential pardon, offering that it could even get her owl “out of that cage.” It’s a pointed choice of words, and almost certainly not coincidental.
HBO’s official supplemental materials help fill in the blanks about what happened between 1985 and 2019. One of those details is that Dan and Laurie were arrested in 1995 for violating the Keene Act. So their costumed adventuring continued for a decade after the final page of Watchmen. As it turns out, Dan and Laurie (in her new heroic identity of the Comedienne) were apprehended after stopping Timothy McVeigh from carrying out the bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City. Although, based on the transcript of Laurie's interrogation by the FBI, "stopping" McVeigh involved killing him, another sign that Laurie had taken on other traits of her father's. By this point, however, Dan and Laurie were no longer romantic or crimefighting partners, with Laurie citing "irreconcilable differences." Specifically, as she put it, "He wanted kids and I wanted guns."
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Watchmen: Nite Owl Details Revealed
HBO's Watchmen continues to hint at the final fate of Nite Owl. We explain what it all means.
www.denofgeek.com
"Laurie’s current apartment has an owl in a cage, and Dan was known to study owls and write about them in academic journals. Is this one of Dan’s owls, or merely something she keeps to remind herself of her former lover? In any case, Senator Joe Keene, Jr. reminds her of the power of a Presidential pardon, offering that it could even get her owl “out of that cage.” It’s a pointed choice of words, and almost certainly not coincidental.
HBO’s official supplemental materials help fill in the blanks about what happened between 1985 and 2019. One of those details is that Dan and Laurie were arrested in 1995 for violating the Keene Act. So their costumed adventuring continued for a decade after the final page of Watchmen. As it turns out, Dan and Laurie (in her new heroic identity of the Comedienne) were apprehended after stopping Timothy McVeigh from carrying out the bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City. Although, based on the transcript of Laurie's interrogation by the FBI, "stopping" McVeigh involved killing him, another sign that Laurie had taken on other traits of her father's. By this point, however, Dan and Laurie were no longer romantic or crimefighting partners, with Laurie citing "irreconcilable differences." Specifically, as she put it, "He wanted kids and I wanted guns."
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I was looking into it. Apparently the material is Lamé fabric for the masks. I'm not sure how it will look because it looks like its a bit of CGI to polish up the mask. Just FYI I don't think you can see through Lamé fabric very well.
Thanks I was wondering about that too. I need that mask
RhinoActual
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Yeah I read that there was only one in Lame and he couldn't really see out of it. It is just for display for me anyway.
Analyzer
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From what I had read, there are several versions of the mask, although apparently the silver lame is your best bet for cosplay purposes
www.polygon.com
Kasperlik used a variety of methods to accomplish the reflectiveness, rather than a single silver mask that could do the job. “We had five different masks,” the designer says, explaining that exactly what Nelson was wearing would change depending on the demands of the scene. Some of the masks were for motion tracking, featuring a special print that would aid with motion capture and tracking, keeping track of the orientation of Nelson’s face at all times. Others were purely green screen or spandex, while yet another — the only mask that wouldn’t require the reflectiveness to be added via CG later — was made of lamé, a type of fabric that has metallic fiber woven throughout it, meaning only one of the actual masks used during shooting was that distinctive silver.
The CG effects on Looking Glass’s mask not only added color to the reflections but made sure that, via motion tracking, “all of the anatomical features were [there]; you could see the shapes underneath without giving away his eyes and his actual mouth.”
On top of that, the use of CG ensured that Nelson could actually see. One of the masks was completely solid, but for the sake of visibility and “to be able to connect with the other actors,” Kasperlik explains that they ended up building a mask with mesh where the eyes would be.
While it’s a disappointment to know that Looking Glass’ look isn’t quite replicable in real life unless you’re willing to wear a full head of (likely low-visibility) shiny lamé, the CG-heavy process for getting Looking Glass looking great is another way Watchmen is pushing the envelope of what’s possible on TV.
And here Tim Blake Nelson describes filming with the Mask
www.menshealth.com
When the 55-year-old actor is in costume, he describes the chrome mask (which covers his entire head) as “a little more than translucent” when looking through—which made things so difficult that his goal was simply see 40% of the actors he was shared scenes with. “You need your partner, and what they're giving you, so that you can give back to them. It's like ping pong—you don't want a situation where you can't see the ball.” Luckily, this challenge didn’t persist throughout the entire production—eventually, Looking Glass’ mask had holes cut where his eyes were (with the eye slots digitally painted over in post-production), so that 40% skyrocketed to a more plentiful 100%.
What the hell is Looking Glass’ mask made out of?
Watchmen costume designer Meghan Kasperlik reveals the hero’s secrets
www.polygon.com
Kasperlik used a variety of methods to accomplish the reflectiveness, rather than a single silver mask that could do the job. “We had five different masks,” the designer says, explaining that exactly what Nelson was wearing would change depending on the demands of the scene. Some of the masks were for motion tracking, featuring a special print that would aid with motion capture and tracking, keeping track of the orientation of Nelson’s face at all times. Others were purely green screen or spandex, while yet another — the only mask that wouldn’t require the reflectiveness to be added via CG later — was made of lamé, a type of fabric that has metallic fiber woven throughout it, meaning only one of the actual masks used during shooting was that distinctive silver.
The CG effects on Looking Glass’s mask not only added color to the reflections but made sure that, via motion tracking, “all of the anatomical features were [there]; you could see the shapes underneath without giving away his eyes and his actual mouth.”
On top of that, the use of CG ensured that Nelson could actually see. One of the masks was completely solid, but for the sake of visibility and “to be able to connect with the other actors,” Kasperlik explains that they ended up building a mask with mesh where the eyes would be.
While it’s a disappointment to know that Looking Glass’ look isn’t quite replicable in real life unless you’re willing to wear a full head of (likely low-visibility) shiny lamé, the CG-heavy process for getting Looking Glass looking great is another way Watchmen is pushing the envelope of what’s possible on TV.
And here Tim Blake Nelson describes filming with the Mask
‘Watchmen’ Star Tim Blake Nelson Could Barely See Through His Mirror-Faced Mask
The longtime character actor tells Men's Health his goal was to see 40% of what his scene partner was doing.
www.menshealth.com
When the 55-year-old actor is in costume, he describes the chrome mask (which covers his entire head) as “a little more than translucent” when looking through—which made things so difficult that his goal was simply see 40% of the actors he was shared scenes with. “You need your partner, and what they're giving you, so that you can give back to them. It's like ping pong—you don't want a situation where you can't see the ball.” Luckily, this challenge didn’t persist throughout the entire production—eventually, Looking Glass’ mask had holes cut where his eyes were (with the eye slots digitally painted over in post-production), so that 40% skyrocketed to a more plentiful 100%.
Gimpdiggity
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Amazing episode.
Also, this is my new favorite show. I look forward to it every week, and that’s pretty rare for me with TV these days.
Looking Glass is going to survive...he’s listed as being in 9 episodes on IMDB, which could be wrong...but let’s face it, he’s clearly a doomsday prepper with a bunker in his back yard, and I’m guessing he’s GOT to have some sort of panic room.
He also just kind of seems like a character that they wouldn’t kill off this early to me.
So, what does everyone think 7K istrying to do with the teleporter? Get to Europa to get Veidt? Something else? Definitely intrigued by that.
He also just kind of seems like a character that they wouldn’t kill off this early to me.
So, what does everyone think 7K istrying to do with the teleporter? Get to Europa to get Veidt? Something else? Definitely intrigued by that.
Also, this is my new favorite show. I look forward to it every week, and that’s pretty rare for me with TV these days.
Yes I think there was some serious planning on Veidt's part, but how far can that portal reach? I have to admit lightning and basketballs dropping out of the ceiling is annoying, and probably not the most efficient way to calibrate the device, but the 7K is planning something big in Tulsa
Analyzer
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I could be wrong, but I think the 7th Kavalry simply want to expose Veidt's hoax and effectively reverse the ending of the comics. I don't think they are helping him. They are simply trying to get the device working as needed to show the world what really happened
Also there are these...
https://www.bustle.com/p/5-adrian-v...chmen-that-will-make-your-brain-hurt-19360095
Some of the more interesting being the theory that Vedit's story line is not current but started 7 years before the events in current day Tulsa
Lindelof said on the official Watchmen podcast that Veidt's storyline is not running "parallel" to Angela and Laurie's stories, but they are "converging lines"
Each time Veidt's cake is shown, it has another candle, and in Episode 4 he says he's been stuck there for four years. If that's indeed a pattern, that means Veidt has three more episodes before he catches up to the year 2019 — and possibly meets his golden demise at the hands of Lady Trieu. i.e. the statue of Veidt in Lady Trieu's Vivarium may actually be Veidt himself
Lady Trieu and Will Reeves might be in effect the new Veidt. manipulating the Kavalry and others to create an "empathy" bomb
This theory supposes that Lady Trieu captured Veidt and forced him to run tests about how to make people suddenly absorb information and memories, which is what he does to an extent with his cloned servants, Crookshanks and Philips. Also similar to the effects of Nostalgia
yeah my brain hurts now. that episode with the comment on how old the statue looks, it did look slightly different. I need a Linus blanket, or a shiny mask to deal with all this while we wait for next week's episode
Analyzer
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Also, Bass Reeves "The Black Marshal of Oklahoma" and inspiration for Will was actually based on a real person
en.wikipedia.org
Bass Reeves - Wikipedia
so say we all. the music, lighting, the history the writers were attempting to show though film. wont say anymore.
Analyzer
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I really love the way the flashbacks were done and all the cue's that were used.
Very well done for basically an entire episode of flashbacks. Rather than a boring "simply cutting to an earlier time" point of view. It was a nice way to convey the flow of memories as part of a dream like state
Things like exiting the police station into the street. His mother playing the "Trust the Law" theme whenever he went into vigilante mode, the flashback to the plane/riot whenever Tulsa was mentioned. The mix of black and white dreaming with color, having Angela stand in at times
Very well done for basically an entire episode of flashbacks. Rather than a boring "simply cutting to an earlier time" point of view. It was a nice way to convey the flow of memories as part of a dream like state
Things like exiting the police station into the street. His mother playing the "Trust the Law" theme whenever he went into vigilante mode, the flashback to the plane/riot whenever Tulsa was mentioned. The mix of black and white dreaming with color, having Angela stand in at times
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