Various OT lightsaber parts (TFA clamp covers and bottoms now available)

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  1. PoopaPapaPalps

    PoopaPapaPalps Master Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Re: Various OT lightsaber parts (update page 8: luke ROTJ v2 lever available)

    Tell me about it! I've been looking at options up and down on trying to somewhat conceal it.:p
     
  2. RexKramer

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    Re: Various OT lightsaber parts (update page 8: luke ROTJ v2 lever available)

    Are you referring to the hole with the 'flap'?

    Roy would it be anything difficult to create a 'cap' for this hole that would curve and sit flush to plug up the hole?
     
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  3. DorkDaddy

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    So lemme just throw this out there:

    I'm a noobie to the game (but longtime dreamer). I just got my first Graflex yesterday and I'm so *STOKED* to dive in and make it happen. But I am a little nervous. I'm only going to get one shot at this thing and I don't want to screw it up.

    Roy... Roy, Roy, Roy... dude, you made it so easy. Between your tutorial and the pieces on your site... I think the only thing I had to dig for was an extra Graflex red button (Ebay... $16... BOOM!).

    Thank you so much from the guy on the edge of the lightsaber-making pool nervous about dipping my toes in. I've got the tutorial. I've got all the pieces. I guess the only thing I have left to do is jump in.
     
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  4. roygilsing

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    NICE! CONGRATS. Good for you!
    TOO EASY? Maybe :)
    Enjoy your build and make it your own; not two sabers are the same.

    Roy
     
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  5. Luke the Belter

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    Re: Various OT lightsaber parts (update page 8: luke ROTJ v2 lever available)

    Roy your MPP shroud looks great.
    Couldn't help but had to order one just 5 minutes ago.

    Great work :thumbsup
     
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  6. roygilsing

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    I only just now saw your message. Sorry for the delay.
    Are we talking about the big hole on the bottom? It says 'remote' on my Heiland and then the third hole above that. It sits right below the shroud and when the hilt is dangling on your DV costume's belt it's right into view. That hole? I don't think a plug will improve anything. Maybe a piece of glossy mylar tape?
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  7. RexKramer

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    Re: Various OT lightsaber parts (update page 8: luke ROTJ v2 lever available)

    Here's another one for you..

    Are there any specifics for the bulb button planned?

    I was wondering if you were going to make use of the screw hole and screw from the original Heiland button?
     
  8. roygilsing

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    Yes, that one is next on the list. It'll be a vacuum cast resin part with an aluminium pull button (buttons non functioning).
    I haven't checked it yet, but I do think that the existing screw hole can be used.
     
  9. PoopaPapaPalps

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    Got inspired by this to go looking for local alternatives for my Heiland. Unfortunately, I couldn't find a source for mylar tape locally and had to resort to foil tape. The color's a bit off but it's a decent alternative; in some lights and angles, it almost disappears completely.
     
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  10. thd9791

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    I had this problem with my Heiland. The MPP bulb release's screws sit above and below the current Heiland holes. I don't think either can be used.
     
  11. roygilsing

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    Tom, thanks for letting me know!
    Just a question: the existing Heiland screws keep the flash innards in place. How do you solve fixating it when those screws are removed? Should the screw from the bulb release do that?

    Roy
     
  12. thd9791

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    Oh balls, this is why my ESB Heiland is mirror flipped. The other side has a screw hole high enough for an MPP. You're right, the socket has to be held in - I never found a way around it, I bet someone else has though! Or....or I'm wrong and they're the same height hold on
     
  13. thd9791

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    Here is the button hole and the other side - that being said in not sure how my button is going up and down, was there a spring in blast techs?
     
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  14. thd9791

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    Sorry HERE it is. I can feel the button beneath the Mylar.
     

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  15. Sym-Cha

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    This is how I converted one of my Heilands ... the bulb release is covering the brand name 'Heiland' but is attached in one of the remaining screw holes, thus sits a little lower in the shroud with a remaining 0.5 cm gap :

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    I just left the opening of the Heiland release button for what it is ... open :

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    This variation on the Vader lightsaber theme only has 4 rubber T-tracks, a plastic Blast-Tech shroud, clamp and currently a Larbel MPP endcap :

    [​IMG]

    I added an extra black x-screw to the shroud to avoid it slipping off when being worn on Darth 'Ugly' Vader's costume.

    Chaim
     
  16. RexKramer

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    Just out of curiosity..

    Is an accurate endcap out of the question?
     
  17. roygilsing

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    You're asking me?
    Well, I'm afraid yes: it requires expensive tooling (for deep drawing) which would make the price ridiculously high for a small quantity (I'm talking a few hundred). And the higher the price, the less will be sold. I don't think I can work it out. And I don't see other techniques to make it; the part needs to be thin.
     
  18. RexKramer

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    Ah, understood.

    Just thought I'd ask since I haven't seen it brought up.
     
  19. Country Paul

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    Re: Various OT lightsaber parts (update page 8: luke ROTJ v2 lever available)

    After ordering one of Roy's new MPP shrouds to upgrade my Parks MPP

    then I started looking at my Vader sabers & realised that I'm gonna need a few more trips to Wannawanga :lol

    my ANH only has 6 grips, my MR ESB doesn't have any grips (because I melted them) & my ROTJ needs a Kobold D-Ring

    I was going to put my old Parks Shroud on my Heiland but then thought I'd make the Technical Manual Saber given that it is clearly based on a Heiland down to the 2 step shroud, Hex end cap & bulb release :lol

    I actually quite like it I read this book so many times as a kid & until I joined here I just thought that was what Vader's Saber looked like
     

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  20. thd9791

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    Here is me deciding what to do about said problem above. You can't spin the guts, since the screw holes are different heights, must stay put. SO

    heiland2.jpg heiland1.jpg The bulb release also can't slide into the flash in the second photo (where you would normally put it on an MPP, the space is larger than the heiland. This is why i chose the button side, first photo.
     
  21. PoopaPapaPalps

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    Ugh, I can't begin to tell you how I wait with great anticipation every day for the post to show up with my Roy bits-and-bobs.
     
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  22. PoopaPapaPalps

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    Got all my bits in today and assembled everything that needed assembly! I'll post pics as soon as everything dries:D.
     
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  23. RexKramer

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    While I was trying different 'friction' solutions with my bubble strip I had a thought..

    Would be cool to have a thin layer of some sort underneath that would not only provide extra thickness for the TCSS clamp, but would have the circuit board printed on it.
     
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  24. roygilsing

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    I'm happy everything arrived. Was everything fine? Are you pleased?

    Roy
     
  25. SpeedRacerx

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    Re: Various OT lightsaber parts (update page 8: luke ROTJ v2 lever available)

    If anyone is having this problem, take a look at my recent thread to see my solution:

    http://www.therpf.com/showthread.php?t=246731
     
  26. PoopaPapaPalps

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    Everything but the bubble strip is fine but we'll work that out.
     
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  27. roygilsing

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    PoopaPapaPalps I've send you an PM, I'll replace that faulty bubble strip of course.
     
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  28. PoopaPapaPalps

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    Re: Various OT lightsaber parts (update page 8: luke ROTJ v2 lever available)

    So here they are, all the parts on their respective sabers!

    The V2 lever and the D-ring finally complete my Luke V2 from Starkiller's run (many thanks to Trooper_trent, once again for the clamp!).

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    But everyone's seen that, what I'm really pleased with is how my Heiland ESB/ROTJ Vader came out. Here it is with Roy's grips, bubblestrip, shroud; Parks' clamp, Blast-tech's bulb release, and many thanks to MCM (Salame!) for sending me the right wires. No screws in the grips, however; I never liked the look of screws in the grips.

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    It's got the wrong endcap (I honestly can't justify spending another 60 bucks to get another Heiland just to cannibalize an endcap), circuit board, and janked up bubblestrip but I can live with it right now. Below you can see some of "ghosting" left over in my trying to fill the airbubbles they had with some clear epoxy resin.

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    Regardless, I'm happy with my little OT family!

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  29. halliwax

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    very fine collection you got there!
     
  30. robpenfold

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    That is a nice little family indeed. I've got my Roman Obi Wan. My Vader Heiland will be done as soon as Roy's shroud and grips arrive. Still have to put my Luke V2 together (as soon as I get my Ghostbusters projects finished). Anxiously waiting Romans Graflex run.

    If mine turn out half as nice as yours PoopaPopaPals then I will be a happy guy. Nice work.
     
  31. Panaflex

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    Nice collection to be sure!
    Wondering if there's been a good tutorial yet on the V2 build that somebody could point me to?
     
  32. roygilsing

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    PoopaPapaPalps Thank you for showing these fine sabers here. They look awesome! I love the way you weathered the V2 and the Vader is excellent. I wouldn't worry much about that endcap, because at least this one has the black screw hole in it.

    Roy
     
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  33. Sym-Cha

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    Indeed ... I agree with Roy regarding the endcap ... it's a minor detail ... as for the bubbles ... have you seen the beat up frosted bubblestrip on the real prop ... not even mentioning the wrinkle effect gone completely from the shroud?

    [​IMG]

    So I'd say ... your grandioso OT lightsaber collection is amazing! :)

    Chaim
     
  34. PoopaPapaPalps

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    Thanks very much for all the kind words, gents!
     
  35. Country Paul

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    I got some grips from Roy today, I basically need to upgrade the grips on all my OT sabers but I'm starting with my Vader sabers

    my ANH Parks MPP currently only has 6 grips & my MR (force fx) ESB grips were sticky so I took them off to clean & stupidly melted them with acetone

    before I try to replace them I wanted to ask if people notch the underside of their Vader grips like on the MR's so they sit straight over the endcap?

    I used padded tape on my parks originally (which no doubt will be a pain to remove)

    thanks
     

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  36. newmagrathea

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    I've got a couple questions about grips.

    What is the angle that the grips are cut to on the Luke ANH saber?

    What is the length of the grips for ESB vader saber.
     
  37. Edraven99

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    I asked the same question for my build and was told not to notch them because they weren't notched on the actual prop.

    It's your call... the notched look *is* a bit cleaner (I have the MR ANH Vader), but if you're going for 'accuracy' more than 'style', then no notches...
     
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  38. robpenfold

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    I plan on notching because I like the cleaner look. Its such a minor detail that, for me, doesn't wreck the realism. But that's my opinion and opinions are like buttholes...everybody's got one.
     
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  39. roygilsing

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    For those who didn't follow my MPP shroud thread: I now have plenty of MPP shrouds replicas available:

    mpp_shroud_05.jpg

    They can be ordered here: http://wannawanga.com/products/mpp-shroud/

    AND I've made a new blueprint drawing of Vader's ESB saber.
    It is very accurately based on the images of the real prop (you know, the pictures taken in Casino / Movie Museum) by doing some 3D perspective matching.

    You can also check it here at WannaWanga: http://wannawanga.com/goodies/
    If anybody wants to print it out in scale 1:1 it has an A2 paper size.

    Enjoy, I hope you like it!
     
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  40. danielpeeters

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    I have a question in regards to the difference between Vader's ANH and ESB saber. Does the clamp sit further toward the shroud in ANH compared to the ESB hilt? It looks to me that the ESB clamp is positioned further down towards the end cap. Only slightly, but I think I can still notice it. Is this true? Just wanting to make sure before I modify my ESB flash.

    Cheers!
     
  41. Sym-Cha

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    The T-tracks on the ANH lightsaber are also much shorter than ESB ... so that and maybe a slight repositioning of the clamp between ANH and ESB is quite possible ... a major difference is the angle of the clamp in ANH ... it does not line up straight as in Roy's blueprint seen on the top right ... sorry I just don't know the exact angle :wacko

    Chaim
     
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    http://wannawanga.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/blueprint-Luke-ANH.jpg

    http://wannawanga.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/blueprint-DV-ESB.jpg

    According to Roy's Blueprints the angle in Luke's ANH is 30
    and the length of Vader ESB T-tracks is 4.10" or 104 mm

    :)

    Chaim
     
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    You guys like my new shirt?

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  45. Luke the Belter

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    :thumbsup

    We need someone to take measurements of the new V2 so Roy could create another blueprint and hopefully another rendering :D
    The new Vader renderings are superbe.
     
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  46. roygilsing

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    Look at that!!! Cool. Gives me ideas! :D
     
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  47. roygilsing

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    I have it here, of course! I even got Dan's 3D files! :rolleyes
    So that and OB1 ANH are next on the list.
     
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  48. roygilsing

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    Various OT lightsaber parts (update October: MPP shrouds available)

    I have updated the blueprint drawing of Vader's ESB saber:

    View attachment 539801
     
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  49. MCM

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    My shroud, grips, bubble strip, and belt clip all arrived! I am so stoked. I love the wrinkle paint on the shroud. It has a velvety look to it that is quite cool. I put the bubble strip in my Roman Obi saber; it really kicks things up a notch :cool. I will definitely be picking up more of those in the future.

    I'm getting ready to trim up the t track, and I'm wondering what's the best way to go about making the 30 degree bevels on the ends (for the ANH look). I know that I've seen advice on how to do this, but I can't seem to find the info now that I need it :wacko. Seriously, I used the forum search and Google to no avail. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
     
  50. roygilsing

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    Hey MCM, good to hear that you're pleased with the parts! I'm sure there's many ways to cut the corners, but you can use a box cutter, a file and sandpaper. It's just pieces of plastic :D
     
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