Tobin's Spirit Guide! (RESEARCH SIGN-UP POST 364!)

[Michael Bergeron]

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slenderman has been around since at least the 1600s, but under different names.
its mostly a german thing, so im not surprised it didnt come around to the us till of late

He'll be in there. :thumbsup

 

[jasonw2112]

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Here is the best Copyright free image, as well as description's about the Eight Immortals I could find. I will try to see if I can find a older black and white image.

8 Immortals - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Oh!, Be sure to click on each of the names, of the Eight Immortals. It tells their power, and their story! It also has black and white pic of each immortal!

 

[Michael Bergeron]

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PERFECT! All the info AND pics I can use! thumbsupthumbsup

Thank you!

 

[jasonw2112]

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I'm not sure if you are interested in this or not, but I find pretty interesting!

It is the Ghost city of Fengdu, located in China

The first link tells a little bit more about the setup, and gives you more of a visual tour.

Freaky Fengdu Ghost City – WTF China?!? (34 Photos)


This second link has actual pics you should be able to use, along with external links with more info!

Fengdu County - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Michael Bergeron]

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DEFINITELY! Really keen to find more hauntings & such outside of Europe. As it currently stands Britain will have a chapter with 50 pages, Europe will have a chapter with 75, then the rest of the world could fall in to 50 pages total. Need lots more!

 

[DexJay]

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Blimey! Is Britain really that haunted? Cool! :lol

 

[Michael Bergeron]

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Blimey! Is Britain really that haunted? Cool! :lol

Yes! :lol

At least better documented than most places. It could easily become the single largest chapter of the book and it also makes sense that there would be more because Tobin is from Britain so undoubtedly that's where his interest arose.

 

[jasonw2112]

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O.k. OB! I found my book on "Chinese Symbolism, and Art Motifs"
It has alot of info ( a revised edition from 1941 ) about the superstition, and
practices of budist monks, to the different types of dragons, to all kinds of stuff!
If anything I can skim through to the really good stuff, and see what
seems the best? Or I can send you stuff to sort through. It's actually very informative, just let me know. I don't have anything on hauntings, yet, just folklore.

 

[Michael Bergeron]

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Thank you! Folklore is a great start. Not all of the creatures in the book are from "haunts" anyway. :thumbsup

 

[13doctorwho]

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Alright, here's an update. I draw and paint a lot, but this is a style I've never tried so here it goes. Let me know what you think.

This is a low resolution one as a preview. I have a pretty high resolution one that I can give you if you like it.

View attachment 111760

I have more ideas from your list, if this is alright.

 

[KicktheDarkness]

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Hopefully I'm not too late to the party to offer some ideas.

I'm not sure what you have for North American spirits, but I think the Wendigo is an important addition. Wikipedia's summation is:

It is thought of variously as a malevolent cannibalistic spirit that could possess humans or a monster that humans could physically transform into. Those who indulged in cannibalism were at particular risk

This was a spirit popular in Algonquin-speaking communities.

As for the book itself, I've been doing a bit of research of late and might have some useful information.

A book like this in 1928 would likely have been a somewhat niche book and as such would either have been a book of low quality made cheaply, or a book of great quality and quite expensive. In the case of the later, the book itself would likely be printed via letter press. There are quite a few printers still doing letter press, but it would likely add to the cost of the book itself. If you like, I could help source some out.

The interior covers of the book would also likely be quite colourful as seen here at the 4:43 mark. This is a process that dates back to least the mid-19th century.

Also, I'm fairly certain I might have some files or templates kicking around that will provide proportions for traditional page layouts.

Lastly, have you given any thought to fonts?

Hopefully I've been of some help and not totally geeked out on you.

 

[Michael Bergeron]

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Hopefully I'm not too late to the party to offer some ideas.

Certainly not! This is one of those projects that likely won't be done for another year or two just based on all that I have to write & research. You guys chiming in here helps enormously!

I'm not sure what you have for North American spirits, but I think the Wendigo is an important addition. Wikipedia's summation is...

...This was a spirit popular in Algonquin-speaking communities.

Great! As I've said before, the only places I'm probably good for is Britain & Mainland Europe. Would love to hear of more Native spirits if you've got 'em!

As for the book itself, I've been doing a bit of research of late and might have some useful information.

A book like this in 1928 would likely have been a somewhat niche book and as such would either have been a book of low quality made cheaply, or a book of great quality and quite expensive. In the case of the later, the book itself would likely be printed via letter press. There are quite a few printers still doing letter press, but it would likely add to the cost of the book itself. If you like, I could help source some out.

I'll be looking for printers when the book's done but I think proper letter press will be out of the cards. As nice as it is each Tobin's would have to be about $500! :lol I'll definitely keep you in mind when I do look though.

The interior covers of the book would also likely be quite colourful as seen here at the 4:43 mark. This is a process that dates back to least the mid-19th century.

You're not the first person to say this but here's my problem with that... I know it was common practice before WW1 but I have a pretty full library here and at last count almost 100 books that date between 1912 and 1938, none of which have colourful interior covers. If I'm not mistaken that was more common with novels than reference material anyway. Would love to hear any more research you may have on this! Definitely want to make this as authentic as possible.

Also, I'm fairly certain I might have some files or templates kicking around that will provide proportions for traditional page layouts.

Lastly, have you given any thought to fonts?

I would LOVE to see any templates you have! I have thought about fonts, I have an extensive collection there as well (I'm a graphics guy professionally so I'm not kidding, at last count about 40,000 fonts in my library. ). Very interested in what you think it should be. For a text of this date it would have to be a fairly simple serif font, preferably without hard edges. Like a softer version of Bookman perhaps?

Hopefully I've been of some help and not totally geeked out on you.

You can geek out here anytime you like! I like the cut of your jib.

 

[Michael Bergeron]

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The interior covers of the book would also likely be quite colourful as seen here at the 4:43 mark. This is a process that dates back to least the mid-19th century.

And by the way, the books at the very end of that clip aren't too far off what I'd LOVE this to turn out like. Very pricey though for that king of binding. We'll have to see.

 

[Skyler101]

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OB....

Send me the pages you wanted me to look at.
Got some time, and have some ideas!

- Skyler101

 

[EyeofSauron]

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i might have skipped it somewhere, but how about the white lady?
White Lady (ghost) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Michael Bergeron]

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OB....

Send me the pages you wanted me to look at.
Got some time, and have some ideas!

- Skyler101

Would love to get you in on this! We'll talk later this week. thumbsup

 

[Michael Bergeron]

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i might have skipped it somewhere, but how about the white lady?
White Lady (ghost) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I *think* I already have her but if not she's definitely in. I remember that Wiki page though.

Thanks!

 

[13doctorwho]

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Did you see the updated image of the Tooth Fairie from Hellboy II. You haven't responded and I wanted to know if I was on the right track. Let me know.

 

[Michael Bergeron]

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Did you see the updated image of the Tooth Fairie from Hellboy II. You haven't responded and I wanted to know if I was on the right track. Let me know.

I must have totally missed it! It's not bad at all. What kind of background were you thinking of putting on it?

 

[KicktheDarkness]

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Great! As I've said before, the only places I'm probably good for is Britain & Mainland Europe. Would love to hear of more Native spirits if you've got 'em!

My knowledge of native spirits is somewhat lacking. Most of the reserves I lived on had quite firmly rejected their spiritual past. In most cases, it was quite literally beaten out of them but I can find what I have for you. I'll see my Mum next week her knowledge is much more in depth than mine.

You're not the first person to say this but here's my problem with that... I know it was common practice before WW1 but I have a pretty full library here and at last count almost 100 books that date between 1912 and 1938, none of which have colourful interior covers. If I'm not mistaken that was more common with novels than reference material anyway. Would love to hear any more research you may have on this! Definitely want to make this as authentic as possible.

Hmm, I'll do some digging and I'll see what turns up. You may be quite right in regards to novel vs. reference in this regard.

I would LOVE to see any templates you have!

Will do!

In the mean time, this might provide some interesting reading.

I have thought about fonts, I have an extensive collection there as well (I'm a graphics guy professionally so I'm not kidding, at last count about 40,000 fonts in my library. ).

:eek

I'm not a graphics guy, so damn am I jealous!

Very interested in what you think it should be. For a text of this date it would have to be a fairly simple serif font, preferably without hard edges. Like a softer version of Bookman perhaps?

Bookman would be quite good actually. In my mind, I had figured a late 19th C. font, as it would have had time to make it's way through to smaller printers. It was developed in 1858 and had a slight revision in 1901 so the time frames would work perfectly.

I like the cut of your jib.

You flatter me sir.