EvilRocketeer
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pictures of the mad hatter's hat at D23
Tim Burton's Alice In Wonderland Costumes
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EvilRocketeer
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closer picture of hat and the chair
Capn_Jack_Savvy
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I am currently researching digital printing on fabric for the very elaborate and colorful bow tie scarf which for some reason reminds me of a Georgia O'Keefe painting!!!
I am trying to document the pattern in CADD and see if I can get a repeating pattern going.
If this all goes well who would be interested to help defray costs? I have found some shops that require minimum of 37 yards @ about $16.00 per yard but that is just the worst case scenario.
I am trying to document the pattern in CADD and see if I can get a repeating pattern going.
If this all goes well who would be interested to help defray costs? I have found some shops that require minimum of 37 yards @ about $16.00 per yard but that is just the worst case scenario.
nickytea
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Forgive me for posting to this thread three times in a row.
I'd like to share some comparative research I've been doing of the hats used in the film. With current reference, we can be sure that there were at least four distinct hats made for the film.
I was able to compare them using the the gold stitching on the leather (which varies from hat to hat) as well as the placement and proportion and sometimes color of the other accouterments. (The direction of the top ribbon, the size of the top leather patch, the color of the beaded peacock feather piece.)
I have numbered them for my own reference:
1. The first is what I'm calling the hero/poster hat. It is prominently featured in several sequences shown in the trailer, as well as the poster. Has prominent orange yarn on the beaded peacock feather piece.
2. The second is what I'm calling the Weathered/Bare Hat. This could possibly be a stunt, but I believe it to be weathered for a specific sequence in the film. Has no beaded peacock feather piece.
With that piece missing, we're able to see hint's to the hat's construction: the leather seam is hidden under the peacock piece. This could be limited to this piece, but I doubt it. Other hats have peacock feather, the top ribbon, and some stray tool that could feasibly cover the seam.
3. This is I'm calling the "D23" hat because that expo is where it was shown. It can't be seen in the trailer. It is also bear, missing the peacock feather piece. I think we can assume it is lost at some point in the film.
The top ribbon is more prominent, and slanted in the opposite diagonal direction of the first two hats.
4. I call this the "Exhibit" hat. I saw it in person at the San Diego exhibit.
Aside from the inherent differences in the leather pattern gold stitching, this is the other "complete hat." It has all the detailing, but differs from the "Hero Hat" in a few key ways: The top ribbon is slanted in the same fashion as hat 3. The peacock detail has prominent purple yarn instead of orange. The leather patch is raw, with no punched pattern.
Looks like they used the same components for each, combined in different ways.
That means there's a lot of room for interpretation!
I'd like to share some comparative research I've been doing of the hats used in the film. With current reference, we can be sure that there were at least four distinct hats made for the film.
I was able to compare them using the the gold stitching on the leather (which varies from hat to hat) as well as the placement and proportion and sometimes color of the other accouterments. (The direction of the top ribbon, the size of the top leather patch, the color of the beaded peacock feather piece.)
I have numbered them for my own reference:
1. The first is what I'm calling the hero/poster hat. It is prominently featured in several sequences shown in the trailer, as well as the poster. Has prominent orange yarn on the beaded peacock feather piece.
2. The second is what I'm calling the Weathered/Bare Hat. This could possibly be a stunt, but I believe it to be weathered for a specific sequence in the film. Has no beaded peacock feather piece.
With that piece missing, we're able to see hint's to the hat's construction: the leather seam is hidden under the peacock piece. This could be limited to this piece, but I doubt it. Other hats have peacock feather, the top ribbon, and some stray tool that could feasibly cover the seam.
3. This is I'm calling the "D23" hat because that expo is where it was shown. It can't be seen in the trailer. It is also bear, missing the peacock feather piece. I think we can assume it is lost at some point in the film.
The top ribbon is more prominent, and slanted in the opposite diagonal direction of the first two hats.
4. I call this the "Exhibit" hat. I saw it in person at the San Diego exhibit.
Aside from the inherent differences in the leather pattern gold stitching, this is the other "complete hat." It has all the detailing, but differs from the "Hero Hat" in a few key ways: The top ribbon is slanted in the same fashion as hat 3. The peacock detail has prominent purple yarn instead of orange. The leather patch is raw, with no punched pattern.
Looks like they used the same components for each, combined in different ways.
That means there's a lot of room for interpretation!
nickytea
Master Member
Would anyone be able to create a cad file for the hat leather pattern?
I was doing some research, and I'm sure many places can, but this site says they are able to do leather:
http://www.customlasercutting.com/
I was doing some research, and I'm sure many places can, but this site says they are able to do leather:
http://www.customlasercutting.com/
Cleverlilminx
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Agent RayBans
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I'm not knocking what you guys are doing, I have just always wondered this. In situations like this, why not wait until the movie comes out to get better referances, or better yet wait for the blu-ray or DVD, rather than putting a lot of effort into something that will probably end up being innacurate?
nickytea
Master Member
High rez photography of the actual thing, in person. Can't get much better than that.
Capn_Jack_Savvy
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Actually some people are already about 99% done! Me mate ACME Brand has nearly completed his down to a Screen Accurate vest, coat, pants, and bow tie!!
He is always ahead of the creation curve!:eek
He is always ahead of the creation curve!:eek
Capn_Jack_Savvy
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Yes! It seems to help his profit margins! I wouldn't be surprised if we start seeing some SA bow ties for sale.
Someone on eBay is already selling the hats but they are not SA as claimed and someone else is selling the bow ties but they are much too small! Just search for Mad Hatter on The Bay and the items will show up. The Mad Hatter has now entered into the profit margin zone!:lol
Someone on eBay is already selling the hats but they are not SA as claimed and someone else is selling the bow ties but they are much too small! Just search for Mad Hatter on The Bay and the items will show up. The Mad Hatter has now entered into the profit margin zone!:lol
Cleverlilminx
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As for the wig, I'm thinking of finding a wig in the correct color, and now is a great time to shop for wigs of course, and simply restyle it.
Capn_Jack_Savvy
Sr Member
I was looking at some punkrock wigs. They are spikey cut so they can easily be modded into something similar. Part is down the middle and doesn't require dreadlocks for a change!!:lol
I am also looking at some of the higher end Bozo The Clown wigs since they are already parted down the middle and the hair is already sticking out to the side. Unfortunately the ones I find on eBay are the cheaper styles and the synthetic hair cannot be modded.
I am also checking out some of the Anime wigs that hopefully will be made up of Kanekalon which will be easy to style without too much goop and gobs of hairspray!
I am also looking at some of the higher end Bozo The Clown wigs since they are already parted down the middle and the hair is already sticking out to the side. Unfortunately the ones I find on eBay are the cheaper styles and the synthetic hair cannot be modded.
I am also checking out some of the Anime wigs that hopefully will be made up of Kanekalon which will be easy to style without too much goop and gobs of hairspray!
nickytea
Master Member
I'm throwing together a quick a dirty version for Halloween. Just went ahead and painted the bow tie. Still working on it. Here's a glimpse:
Looking at the trailer, I was able to determine that his ring is a small red pin cushion with an orange ball topped pin in it. :lol
Looking at the trailer, I was able to determine that his ring is a small red pin cushion with an orange ball topped pin in it. :lol
papamurf812
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Has anyone figured out where to go for the contacts or wig yet? I'm having an Alice themed Halloween party and need to get this thing going.
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