I like your style. Maybe you can keep harassing roygilsing to do another run of mpp shrouds! [emoji14]Starkiller has some nice washers he machined for his own Obi... maybe we can harass him enough to do a run?
The more I look at this the more I believe.I tried out different setups with the vintage aircraft washers I found and in the end I think it looked best with the op amp going through the washer rather than sitting on top of it. Just took a couple of passes with a round file to make it fit.
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I like your style. Maybe you can keep harassing roygilsing to do another run of mpp shrouds! [emoji14]
Holy sh******!!!!you haven't heard? .... he's doing a new run
Starkiller has some nice washers he machined for his own Obi... maybe we can harass him enough to do a run?
Personally, and this is just for me, stuff like the d ring and washers and screws I've never cared about. How are you gonna prove it's an exact certain d ring or screw? And, how are you gonna prove it's a "vintage" part? We also still don't have any confirmation about the transistor brand, although I do like the Solitron logo theory we worked on a while ago.
One example for me is the Exactra screws. Everyone seems to use them because they can be identified and proven to be vintage, but it's never made any sense to me. If the point of the screws in ESB was to hold the grips on that kept falling off, a screw designed to bite into plastic wouldn't make sense. A common sheet metal screw would be much more common, and do a much better job.
Vintage pedigree means nothing to me. I find all this "Oh muh vintage" garbage counter to the pursuit of accuracy. You have a vintage grenade... good for you, you've spent hundreds if not thousands on one with the wrong windvane, and it's beat to hell. Replicas of original parts offer the chance to weather accurately, or at least personally.Personally, and this is just for me, stuff like the d ring and washers and screws I've never cared about. How are you gonna prove it's an exact certain d ring or screw? And, how are you gonna prove it's a "vintage" part? We also still don't have any confirmation about the transistor brand, although I do like the Solitron logo theory we worked on a while ago.
One example for me is the Exactra screws. Everyone seems to use them because they can be identified and proven to be vintage, but it's never made any sense to me. If the point of the screws in ESB was to hold the grips on that kept falling off, a screw designed to bite into plastic wouldn't make sense. A common sheet metal screw would be much more common, and do a much better job.
Well said, better than I said it at any rate.I personally Hate, I Abhor, I LOATHE the 'vintage Exactra screws' and the 'vintage d-ring pulled off a Graflex camera case' crap.
Did the lightsaber prop makers actually remove and pull apart the d-ring off a camera case to re-use the d-ring on the lightsabers? Who the hell knows? Anything is possible.
A d-ring is a piece of wire formed around a d shaped form to make a ring. There isn't anything special about them, just like there is nothing special special about screws.
It's so much more probable that every set designer, set builder, costumer, and prop builder had a stash of d-rings in their tool box that they purchased via surplus and used a totally average, nothing special, ho-hum, regular everyday d-ring just like we can buy today at the hardware store or from Tandy leather.
I don't begrudge anyone using whatever they want on their lightsaber builds, live and let live, and if people sleep better at night thinking their saber is more 'authentic' and somehow 'better' than everyone else's lightsabers because they pulled screws off an Exactra and pulled the d-ring off a Graflex camera case than more power to them.
Personally I think it's silly. But whatever.
Doesn't that defeat the purpose of having a real vintage parts Obi saber?
Different strokes for different folks I guess. I used to be happy with a couple of replicas but I got sucked into the real parts world. I spent what is a lot of money to me on my parts but nowhere near what a lot of others guys have spent and there's no way in the world I can afford to spend or even justify spending 5k+ on a balance pipe. That's about the same as what my car is worth!Vintage pedigree means nothing to me. I find all this "Oh muh vintage" garbage counter to the pursuit of accuracy. You have a vintage grenade... good for you, you've spent hundreds if not thousands on one with the wrong windvane, and it's beat to hell. Replicas of original parts offer the chance to weather accurately, or at least personally.
I prize accurately replicating historical movie props, not chasing down overpriced historical tchotchkes, only to mangle them to make what I'm after.
I love antiques, history, Star Wars, etcetera, and am not squeamish about butchering a graflex flash, or some other item in pursuit of my hobby, but somehow this vintage obsession has gotten out of hand. Some in this particular niche, (ANH Obi sabers) have created a fiat-sentimentality, celebrating vintage over accuracy.
Totally. And if anyone finds their real parts to be lacking for them and want to sell them at a reasonable price, please PM me. Something tells me I won't be seeing many new messages in my Inbox though, lol. Just a hunch.Different strokes for different folks I guess. I used to be happy with a couple of replicas but I got sucked into the real parts world. I spent what is a lot of money to me on my parts but nowhere near what a lot of others guys have spent and there's no way in the world I can afford to spend or even justify spending 5k+ on a balance pipe. That's about the same as what my car is worth!
I've picked up some parts for a song compared to what they're going for lately. 2-5k for a 2 step MPP - forget it!
I like doing the searching as well, you get to find a little bit out about history in the process. But that's just me.
But I agree, the real parts pricing has got out of hand, not just in the community but in the real world too now that a lot of vendors are clued into what the parts are used for. I call it the Star Wars tax.
I know what you mean but I quite enjoy watching people do forensic work on these pieces. [emoji2]For me, the important pieces are the main ones. I don't care about the d-ring, spacer, washers, or cone being vintage or 100% accurate.
I've started applying this to other sabers and builds too. I like the main essential parts to be vintage when possible, that's enough for me. My eyes glaze over when you have people blurring out circuit board photo details as if it's some huge life changing secret. I'll just get a replica and be done with it.
For me, the important pieces are the main ones. I don't care about the d-ring, spacer, washers, or cone being vintage or 100% accurate.
I've started applying this to other sabers and builds too. I like the main essential parts to be vintage when possible, that's enough for me. My eyes glaze over when you have people blurring out circuit board photo details as if it's some huge life changing secret. I'll just get a replica and be done with it.
Of course folks can have their different strokes. I'm just voicing an opinion that accuracy is being sidelined by vintage-ness. I too used to like the hunt, but for the purposes of identification of a part, so that one of our many vendors could offer up an accurate replica.Different strokes for different folks I guess. I used to be happy with a couple of replicas but I got sucked into the real parts world. I spent what is a lot of money to me on my parts but nowhere near what a lot of others guys have spent and there's no way in the world I can afford to spend or even justify spending 5k+ on a balance pipe. That's about the same as what my car is worth!
I've picked up some parts for a song compared to what they're going for lately. 2-5k for a 2 step MPP - forget it!
I like doing the searching as well, you get to find a little bit out about history in the process. But that's just me.
But I agree, the real parts pricing has got out of hand, not just in the community but in the real world too now that a lot of vendors are clued into what the parts are used for. I call it the Star Wars tax.
For me, the important pieces are the main ones. I don't care about the d-ring, spacer, washers, or cone being vintage or 100% accurate.
I've started applying this to other sabers and builds too. I like the main essential parts to be vintage when possible, that's enough for me. My eyes glaze over when you have people blurring out circuit board photo details as if it's some huge life changing secret. I'll just get a replica and be done with it.
These are basically my feelings as well.This is my philosophy also. Try and get real parts when you can (Graflex, AS Handwheel, Exactra bubble strip, etc...) but the little stuff like screws, d-rings, washers- it's just hardware.
Accuracy is the goal, not necessarily vintage, but if you want/can use vintage then that's good too but it isn't magical or special.
Doesn't that defeat the purpose of having a real vintage parts Obi saber?